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For me, this is when it starts to get interesting. I like Randolph, but truth be told I have only seen him play once and out of all the top prospects (minus the foreign dudes) he is the one I know the least about. I like the Chris Bosh comparisons and do think he would easily be a 4 in the NBA, but I like Gordon at this point. I think everyone is way down on him for his swoon at the end of the season and I'm not sure its fair. I think he will be a very good scorer and a solid defender in the NBA. So my vote goes to EG.

I'm not down on him. I just think at this point we shouldn't draft a SG as it would throw our entire team off. If we can move Dunleavy, I'm all for it, but if not, I think we shouldn't draft a SG.

Eric Gordon. It will give this team the playmaker in the backcourt it has been lacking. Randolph reminds me a little too much of Granger to take him ahead of Gordon.

Gordon would be good but he wouldn't fit the system as well as Randolph would.

DGrangeRx33 wrote:I'm not down on him. I just think at this point we shouldn't draft a SG as it would throw our entire team off. If we can move Dunleavy, I'm all for it, but if not, I think we shouldn't draft a SG.

Throw Us Off?????- -??????
Rookies rarely start, Rush likely is gone, & Daniels is expiring & will likely be used at trade bate. Who do you see behind Dun @ SG?
Granger & S.Williams are not 2's. Hell, even Mike is more of a 3. I see SG as a need. I see someone who can attack the basket as a need. I see an outside shooter as a need. I see E.Gordon able to fill these needs. Am I missing something?
Don't get me wrong, I see a "4" as a need too, but I think I might even go w/ a K.Love (esp after reading he has lost 13lbs while adding muscle to his frame in work-outs!) over a scroney/ lankey kid who may never develope the bulk needed to play the position we need him to (PF). Hell, if S.Williams or Ike can't get minutes, what makes you thing a kid like Randolph or Jordan could? We need someone who can contribute now @ pick 6, & that is a E.Gordon (IMO).

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Throw Us Off?????- -??????
Rookies rarely start, Rush likely is gone, & Daniels is expiring & will likely be used at trade bate. Who do you see behind Dun @ SG?
Granger & S.Williams are not 2's. Hell, even Mike is more of a 3. I see SG as a need. I see someone who can attack the basket as a need. I see an outside shooter as a need. I see E.Gordon able to fill these needs. Am I missing something?
Don't get me wrong, I see a "4" as a need too, but I think I might even go w/ a K.Love (esp after reading he has lost 13lbs while adding muscle to his frame in work-outs!) over a scroney/ lankey kid who may never develope the bulk needed to play the position we need him to (PF). Hell, if S.Williams or Ike can't get minutes, what makes you thing a kid like Randolph or Jordan could? We need someone who can contribute now @ pick 6, & that is a E.Gordon (IMO).

At the swingman positions we have Granger, Dunleavy, Rush, Daniels, Graham, and Williams. All of which have done well at some point or time when given the minutes. At the forward position we basically have one post option. JO, past that we have nothing. Foster can play defense and Murphy can drop the long range shot, but JO is our only post player who plays. I don't think we need someone who can come in and play right away, obviously that would be nice, but we barely missed the playoffs with JO and Tinsley out most the season. Add those factors in with an improved Granger and we should be a playoff team. Randolph has a very bright future and draws comparisons to Chris Bosh, we need to get a post threat in case of a JO trade. We have enough swingmen we need someone who can do something inside. I wouldn't mind taking Gordon, I think he'll be a good player, I just see other needs more important.

darned IU fans.

I think we need to start planning on not having Kareem Rush next year, and that we probably won't be able to ever count on Marquis Daniels. Graham is going to slowly build his way up in minutes, as will Williams, but Shawne is more of a SF/PF combo rather than a true wing player (SG/SF).

Scoot McGroot wrote:I think we need to start planning on not having Kareem Rush next year, and that we probably won't be able to ever count on Marquis Daniels. Graham is going to slowly build his way up in minutes, as will Williams, but Shawne is more of a SF/PF combo rather than a true wing player (SG/SF).

Yea, I hear ya. I was just trying to make the point that we have more wing players than post players.

I dont think we need to concentrate so much on "need". We have "needs" at every position besides SF by my count, so I think we pick best available, which I think is Gordon at this point. Sorry, but Rush, Graham, and Daniels dont need many minutes as far as I am concerned.

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Yea, I hear ya. I was just trying to make the point that we have more wing players than post players.

Of guys that can legitimately play minutes, I think we have Granger, Dunleavy, and Daniels (if he can keep his head on straight) at the wings (possibly Williams at the SF and Graham at either possibly) with JO, Murphy, and Foster at the post positions, and Diogu as well (if he, much like Daniels, can keep his head on straight as well). Williams can play either the SF or PF and could count at either, but I think in all reality, we're guaranteed right now to have more post players than wing players for the first time in a while. Rush will likely sign elsewhere, while Graham and Daniels can't be counted on, much like Diogu.

While Williams and Graham can play PF, they aren't really post players. They play as wings and neither Murphy or Foster are post scorers.

Forward is by far our strongest position on the roster (Granger, Dunleavy, Jermaine, Foster, Murphy, S. Williams, Diogu) are all natural forwards. Guard is by our far are weakest position (Tinsley, Diener, Rush [if he returns], Daniels, Graham). Some people still want to take a forward? What is this the early 2000's when we had JO, Harrington, Artest, and Bender aka overkill which got us in trouble in the first place. Our backcourt might be the worst in the NBA (Tinsley is unreliable and Dunleavy isn't even a SG), and some people want to take a 3-4 tweener? Good grief Charlie Brown. What are we the Hawks?

I vote for "Other" here--Kevin Love.

I think he's the guy still available who would help the Pacers the most. He's smart, skilled, and has NBA size. I think the skill trumps the relative lack of athleticism. (And I don't think he's THAT unathletic.) And I don't buy the argument that he has already reached his "ceiling"...really? As a nineteen-year-old freshman? Just because he is a smart, well-schooled player now doesn't necessarily mean he has hit his ceiling. It just might mean that his ceiling for smarts is a lot higher than most guys'.

Second choice: Gordon.