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JO

FOR

Stro Swift
Keith Van Horn's contract
Trenton Hassell
Maurice Ager
Marcus Williams
Nenad Krstic
#10 (or #21 & a protected future 1st round pick)

I should also credit NJ Nets fans for this trade. They came up with the idea, so it seems they are clearly in favor of doing this trade.

2 first round picks, a young pg (williams) and a question with ager. I do like Kristic too. I would say yes but only top 5 protected

It's hard to include Krstic and a pick in this deal as Krstic would have to be signed and traded, and that cannot be done until almost a month after the draft. Thus, we'd have to illegally negotiate with Krstic or NJ would have to pick the player we want, and then hope and pray that Krstic eventually one day agrees to a sign and trade to us, and not someone else, or else they're stuck with a draft pick they don't really want or need.

Meh, I'd pass. This is trading JO for a handful of dimes, and the piggybank of an NBA team only holds fifteen coins since you only get fifteen roster spots.

Dimes aren't worth much in the NBA. We need some paper currency, in large denominations. So I'd rather hold out for another year, see if JO's value goes up (it should, even if for no other reason than that he'll be an expiring contract next summer), and see if we can't get some paper.

if Jersey really is ready to give up on Williams, how about Tinsley for Williams and KVH? we can do a JO trade down the road when Krstrc can be resigned.

Jersey is ready to give up on Marcus, but why would they be ready to take on Tinsley???
You have to give the #11 pick, and take Hassell instead of KVH, to make that considerable for them.

Am I the only one intrigued by the deal?

Although Scott's got it right, it'd be a hell of a headache to pull off.

I'd do it, and just to be more specific, I'd rather have the 21st and a future first protected. I dont trust Bird with back to back picks, I think he would make a huge reach with one or both of them. At #21 I'd target CDR.

I think the deal hinges on how the Pacers' brass feels about Marcus Williams. Personally, I don't think he's the answer. He reminds me too much of Tinsley.

pl wrote:Jersey is ready to give up on Marcus, but why would they be ready to take on Tinsley???
You have to give the #11 pick, and take Hassell instead of KVH, to make that considerable for them.

Now WHY would we give up a first rounder for Marcus Williams? He's not a bad player, but not amazing either. I assume you're saying we should give up the pick to get rid of Tinsley, but I think we'd all pretty much rather just pay him for 40 games a year than give up a first round pick to get rid of him.

Personally I like the deal... I think that we get some nice assets, how ever, we would have to cut some players. I personally would try to get Sean Williams in this deal, and would be willing to get less in return.

If Anthony Randolph, Eric Gordon, or Brook Lopez is on the board @ #10, I'd do it. Otherwise, no.

It sure is tempting, mainly for #10 and Krstic, in that order. Williams and Ager are both so-so prospects that don't do much for me.

If we could package #10 and #11 and move up into Bayless/Mayo territory, I'd do it.

JO
Diogu

FOR

Kristic S&T
Sean williams - potential big
KVH - exp
Swift - exp
Augustin/Westbrook/Jordan/Love.......

Have them Draft first so salaries could count towards the trade. Now Scoot made a good point about Kristic and a S&T. But to be honest I tend to think teams make deals "illegaly" more often than we know. Also I would have to think Kristic would be happy to come into a new atmosphere and a team thats building, and he could potentially be a starter, and florish. If this could get done I'd do it.

also what would a #10 be getting paid anyways?

based on hoopshype if we did a deal consisting of sean, kvh, swift, pick, and kristic. Kristic s&t would have to be close to about 8 mil is he worth that.

greenway84 wrote:also what would a #10 be getting paid anyways?

Spencer Hawes, last year's #10, was paid about $2.1mm.

thanks i figured it was close to that

greenway84 wrote:Have them Draft first so salaries could count towards the trade. Now Scoot made a good point about Kristic and a S&T. But to be honest I tend to think teams make deals "illegaly" more often than we know. Also I would have to think Kristic would be happy to come into a new atmosphere and a team thats building, and he could potentially be a starter, and florish. If this could get done I'd do it.

I'm sure teams make moves illegally in many cases, but I don't think negotiating with a player that's not on their own roster during the negotiating blackout is one of those things a team wants. Is Nenad Krstic worth giving up 3-5 1st round picks in the future to you? I don't think so.


Also, if they draft the player, there is no salary assigned to his draft rights until he signs with the team that drafted him, and then at that point, he cannot be traded for 30 days or more due to signing restrictions.