I love this kid. I think he will be a very good prospect. If he is there when we pick, we need to get him. He is an Al Jefferson type player, and he is what we need. He reminds me of Al Horford personally. Have him downlow, on the block. If we can trade Oneal to the Bulls for Hinrich, Gordon, and Thomas and give up Oneal, Williams, Diogu, I think we will be in good hands. I dont know if Chicago will give up all that, but it is something to look into. It helps both teams out.
Indiana:
Hinrich/Tinsley/Diener/Hudson
Gordon/Daniels
Granger/Dunleavy/Graham
Thomas/Foster
Speights/Murphy
11-Speights
41-Lester Hudson
Bulls:
Rose/Duhon
Hughes/ Sefolosha
Nocioni/Deng/Williams
Oneal/ Gooden/Diogu
Noah/Gray
I think both teams get good value. We could through in 2009 lottery protected first round pick too if we need too. This could help us a lot.
For the trade to work you get numbers like this:
23,484,720 Pacers (Oneal,Williams,Diogu)
14,755,320 Bulls (Hinrich,Thomas)
8,729,400 (Gordon)
He would be Sign and trade starting at 8.73 million. The numbers meet up then.
Marreese Speights and my offseason thoughts
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Marreese Speights and my offseason thoughts
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Hey alright! There is at least one guy on this board who thinks my pick in our pseudo-draft did not suck!!!
Seriously, though, while I am intrigued by Speights, I think that if he is the best the Pacers can do in this draft, then I would like to see us trade the pick. Hopefully there is a rival GM who would lose his head over a first-round late-lottery pick...maybe we could move down in this year's draft and also get another pick in a future draft, something like that.
Seriously, though, while I am intrigued by Speights, I think that if he is the best the Pacers can do in this draft, then I would like to see us trade the pick. Hopefully there is a rival GM who would lose his head over a first-round late-lottery pick...maybe we could move down in this year's draft and also get another pick in a future draft, something like that.

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can you do a sign and trade in a deal like this? I always thought it had to be a separate deal, that gordon couldn't be traded with other bulls players in the same deal, or something like that. plus I don't think the Bulls give up thomas, hinrich, AND gordon for those 3. maybe with hughes instead of gordon, but then it doesn't look as appealing to the pacers.
I think it's an ok idea, b/c i believe hinrich bounces back just fine, and he's a lot better defender than people give him credit for (if you saw him two years ago in international play, he was always picking up 3/4 to full court and doing well)
Looking at contracts...
hinrich's deal i don't mind because, if you've noticed, he has a descending contract (each year is $1 mil less than the preceding year), and hughes expires when JO would have so a wash there
I think it's an ok idea, b/c i believe hinrich bounces back just fine, and he's a lot better defender than people give him credit for (if you saw him two years ago in international play, he was always picking up 3/4 to full court and doing well)
Looking at contracts...
hinrich's deal i don't mind because, if you've noticed, he has a descending contract (each year is $1 mil less than the preceding year), and hughes expires when JO would have so a wash there
You might as well be sweet