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Almond & #23 for #17?

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Almond & #23 for #17? 

Post#1 » by sendai91 » Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:19 pm

Do you all like Almond enough to do that switch? The Jazz need to leapfrog Cleveland and Charlotte to land Hibbert - is that enough enticement for Indiana?
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Re: Almond & #23 for #17? 

Post#2 » by count55 » Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:23 pm

sendai91 wrote:Do you all like Almond enough to do that switch? The Jazz need to leapfrog Cleveland and Charlotte to land Hibbert - is that enough enticement for Indiana?


I'd be Ok with that, but I'm not sure where our FO is, plus, we'd have to send some player back as part of the package. Based on salaries, it'd probably have to be either Diener or S Williams, and I'm not so sure about it at that point.
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Re: Almond & #23 for #17? 

Post#3 » by Wizop » Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:25 pm

I think we want Hibbert too. we might even take him at 11.
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Re: Almond & #23 for #17? 

Post#4 » by sendai91 » Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:32 pm

What about the Jazz sends to Indiana:

Almond
Hart (expiring)
Collins
#23, #44, #53

Indiana sends:
Foster
#17

saves you some coin in Foster's contract, and allows you a lot of flexibility with picking or trading 2nd rd picks?
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Re: Almond & #23 for #17? 

Post#5 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:55 pm

sendai91 wrote:What about the Jazz sends to Indiana:

Almond
Hart (expiring)
Collins
#23, #44, #53

Indiana sends:
Foster
#17

saves you some coin in Foster's contract, and allows you a lot of flexibility with picking or trading 2nd rd picks?

No way. Maybe if they included a future first instead of the 2 2nd's. We would be trading the 2 most valuable pieces and thats never good in a trade.

As for the OP, I don't see it happening as I hear Bird is very high on Hibbert and really wanted a pick in the teens range to get someone. I don't see us trading it unless an offer blows us away, which this doesn't.
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Re: Almond & #23 for #17? 

Post#6 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:18 pm

I think the main problems with these deals is that Roy Hibbert just sounds a lot like the seasoned, ready to play guy that Larry Bird wants in the frontcourt.

But, if you guys miss out on Hibbert, and we keep Rasho and get a guy like Hibbert or maybe even Robin Lopez, we might have interest in doing the Foster for Almond, Hart, and Collins.
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Re: Almond & #23 for #17? 

Post#7 » by mizzoupacers » Thu Jun 26, 2008 2:31 pm

I've never understood the infatuation with Almond. I see him as a really marginal NBA player.

I wouldn't move down in the draft if Almond is all we get for it.
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Re: Almond & #23 for #17? 

Post#8 » by xxSnEaKyPxx » Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:05 pm

mizzoupacers wrote:I've never understood the infatuation with Almond. I see him as a really marginal NBA player.

I wouldn't move down in the draft if Almond is all we get for it.

Agreed.
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Re: Almond & #23 for #17? 

Post#9 » by ahartleyvu » Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:31 pm

lol we are not considering Hibbert with the 11th, whatever it is that you're smoking, its illegal in the US
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Re: Almond & #23 for #17? 

Post#10 » by FreeRon » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:27 pm

I can think of 3 scenarios we have in our minds right now.

1) Augustin at 11 and Arthur at 17. This is my worst nightmare right now.

2) Alexander at 11 and R. Lopez at 17. I love Alexander's game and I don't think we can get him at 17, so to me 11 is not really a reach for him. With our reported interest in Varejao I can see us taking Lopez if he's still there.

3) Alexander/Arthur at 11 and Hibbert at 17. I really love this idea if it's Alexander at 11, and prefer it over the other 2 if it's Arthur but I'm not quite as psyched about him.

I suppose it's possible that we go with Augustin at 11 and Hibbert at 17, but I'm thinking that Alexander or Arthur is the player that we want that we figure will be there at 11. I do think we've got either Arthur, Lopez, or Hibbert in mind at 17 though and we couldn't get any of the 3 at #23. We might as well trade out of the first round at that point. Maybe last year you could have convinced Bird to do it, but now that Almond's proven how overrated he was (mostly by Bird), I don't think there's a chance that we move down from 17 to 23 to get him.
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Re: Almond & #23 for #17? 

Post#11 » by notque » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:38 pm

I disagree. I think we have no idea who he wants. He's very secretive if you remember the williams draft.

Honestly, we'll be surprised by what we do, not be sure what to make of it, and it will end up working out really well.
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Re: Almond & #23 for #17? 

Post#12 » by joew8302 » Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:45 pm

There is no way Alexander falls to 11. I don't see him getting passed Milwaukee or New Jersey at all. I really don't think Almond would be a bad player, and I would be up for moving to 23 with Almond for 17. No way though am I looking to trade Foster as a filler.
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Re: Almond & #23 for #17? 

Post#13 » by FreeRon » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:12 pm

notque, that's exactly the reason I'm going back and forth on who we're really targetting. I assume we're not targetting anyone at SG or SF, although I do think if someone falls we'll take them. To be honest as much as Bird's talked about Arthur I don't think there's any chance we'll take him. It just seems to make sense that we would target one of the 3 combinations, although as you said there's no way any of us can really know.

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