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I was just thinking that there MAY be only one team that wants Granger more than us and it's Portland. Now this is just for fun and I dont suggest this as and idea or as a possible trade. But what would it take for them to get him from us.
Rudy
Bayless
LafRentz
Frye
1st
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Granger
Tinsley
Murphy

Maybe thats too much or not enough but if I was in charge thats what it would take for me to let Granger go.

Portland won't take Tinsley period. The front office is held hostage by the fans on character issues... the FO would turn down Tinsley for Sergio Rodrigez straight up if the contracts worked... that's how untradeable Tinsley is to Portland.

I wouldn't do it as a Pacers fan. We can't afford to trade Granger, especially for unproved players. Granger has become the face of the franchise. Not to mention Rudy and Bayless are not even needed with Dunleavy/Rush/Ford/Jack. We already have a solid Guard rotation, why would we trade Granger for 2 more?

Doesn't make sense in any way, shape, or form.

i meant value wise. the huge facyor in there besides 2 potential stars. and the additional 1st. is the fact that we drop tinsley and murphys huge contracts. those 2 combined with rasho, baston, graham, mcroberts, daniels all being exp. we would have a huge amount of space to sign someone better than danny in 2010 anyways. like i said we wouldnt have to keep bayless and rudy but they would be huge trading pieces as well. all i was saying was what type of value id want back in return.

i meant value wise. the huge facyor in there besides 2 potential stars. and the additional 1st. is the fact that we drop tinsley and murphys huge contracts. those 2 combined with rasho, baston, graham, mcroberts, daniels all being exp. we would have a huge amount of space to sign someone better than danny in 2010 anyways. like i said we wouldnt have to keep bayless and rudy but they would be huge trading pieces as well. all i was saying was what type of value id want back in return.

Okay....

I was just letting you know... Pritchard hangs up the phone when he hears Tinsley...

I see your points Greenway. I think more than Portland wants Granger bad. I hope he really has a breakout year for us.

Why don't we just get the team together in a small room and toss in a grenade?

Danny must stay! There is simply no reason for this deal. All we do is complicate the guard spots. Plus with Murphy gone who is gonna log the big minutes at PF? LaFrentz? Frye? I really don't like either of those guys to contribute.

Where is this info coming from that Portland wants Granger so badly? Just curious because other than on here I've never heard anything relatively close it.

I second count here. Amazingly, I think you've found a deal that makes both teams worse.

In any deal where PDX gets Granger, we HAVE to get back Roy, Oden, or LMA... And I am not suggesting that they would even consider it, b/c they wont, but Granger is THAT valuable to us right now... It does not matter if Tinsley is included or not, to land Granger from us, we have to get a game changer in return...

Break the trade down in a couple of pieces:

Rudy and Bayless for Granger

No way Portland agrees to this. Bayless was the summer league MVP and has been impressive in early workouts. He is the perfect compliment to Roy since he is not a pure PG. Add that Bayless is under his rookie contract and Granger is due an extention this summer, the trade difference is even bigger. Adding Rudy to the deal makes Portland hang up the phone that much quicker.

Raef
Frye
#1

for

Tinsley
Murphy

Raef has an expiring and Murphy is paid ungodly money longterm. Tinsley would be waived immediately, costing 7M a year on the cap for three years. I would not do a Murphy/Tinsley deal for Raef alone. Adding Frye (a very good big to have coming off the bench) and a #1 makes it even worse.

As a Pacer fan, I would love it. As a Blazer season ticket holder, there would be hell to pay if something this bad were to happen

As a Pacers fan, I wouldnt do that. Trading Granger would be huge for our squad, hes the new face of the franchise. Getting Bayless isnt going to help us out all that much. Hes not as good as he played in the summer league. You have to remember, summer league is just a bunch of NBA rejects. Bayless is too small to be a SG and doesnt have the passing ability to be a PG. I think if Rush played in the summer league, he could have done just as well or even better than Bayless.

Dunthreevy wrote:Where is this info coming from that Portland wants Granger so badly? Just curious because other than on here I've never heard anything relatively close it.

I belive it's just a hypothetical thing. The SF is currently their weakest spot, and with Granger being a player who can contribute effectively without needing the ball in his hands every 3 seconds, would compliment Roy and their tall frontcourt.

The other thing that leans towards their interest would be LaFrentz' massive expiring at the end of the season. It's all effectively just speculation that i've read in a couple of other threads.

They would still need to re-sign all of their major rookies though, and Granger's new contract would limit other contract flexibility. Once again it's all just theory though.

Rudy may never play in the NBA.....

Rudy's already signed a contract in Portland. He's already over here.

Still I would have a hard time seeing the Pacers trading away the face of the franchise for a couple pg/sg that would barely crack the rotation, I would honestly rather buy out Tinsley then have the include Granger.

Gremz wrote:

Dunthreevy wrote:Where is this info coming from that Portland wants Granger so badly? Just curious because other than on here I've never heard anything relatively close it.

I belive it's just a hypothetical thing. The SF is currently their weakest spot, and with Granger being a player who can contribute effectively without needing the ball in his hands every 3 seconds, would compliment Roy and their tall frontcourt.

The other thing that leans towards their interest would be LaFrentz' massive expiring at the end of the season. It's all effectively just speculation that i've read in a couple of other threads.

They would still need to re-sign all of their major rookies though, and Granger's new contract would limit other contract flexibility. Once again it's all just theory though.

There was a time Danny was a good fit for the TrailBlazers, which was reflected in the numerous trade suggestions on the trade board. I guess it is coming from there.

But things have changed now. Granger has become too good IMO for being the fourth option for a team. And the Trailblazers have enough options on offense for the future and it will already be difficult to keep the majority of them.

Pacersike wrote:There was a time Danny was a good fit for the TrailBlazers, which was reflected in the numerous trade suggestions on the trade board. I guess it is coming from there.

But things have changed now. Granger has become too good IMO for being the fourth option for a team. And the Trailblazers have enough options on offense for the future and it will already be difficult to keep the majority of them.

Naw, I could see Granger as the #1 or #2 option for Portland. Aldridge would be #1 or #2. Roy would be the distributore (#3 or #4 option), scoring whenever necessary and Oden would be the put back guy. Bayless would be the #3 or #4 option.