Breaking down Bird code.
Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 1:54 pm
I've been reading, watching or listening to a lot of what Bird, Morway, And to a lesser degree, Simon have bee saying this offseason. As have all of you. Everything Bird said he would do he has done, or is in the process of doing. Which he has updated us all one. So I think we all know where we are at so far this offseason and our plans for the future. Ford, Jack, Diener, Dunleavy, Rush, Granger, Murphy, McRoberts, Foster and Hibbert all seem to be a part of our futre. Excluding Tinsely, Shawne, Daniels, Rasho, Baston, Graham all for different reasons. So heres what I've come up with.
1st I'll start with the rumor of Bird not wanting to include McRoberts but instead Shawne as incentive/filler for any trade involving Tinlsey. No Link it here somewhere will post later. The reasoning behind this I thin is 1. Bird is finished with Shawne just as much as Tinlsye 2. He thinks McRoberts will help moral and fan appriciation, and sell some tickets.
2nd In reference to losing that low post threat in JO. "We'll have a lot more open shots this year than in the past because of T.J. (Ford) and Jarrett (Jack) and even Travis because we can push the ball extremely hard. … (but) to win a championship in this league you've got to have a post scorer that can go down there and get a basket at the end of the game. We don't have that yet." This makes me think he really is looking and trying to aquire that pf we need.
3rd In reference to Murphy. Bird said he believes power forward Troy Murphy will have "his best year" this season. "He's really worked hard, he's thought about it, he's comfortable with his surroundings now," Bird said, "and I think he's going to have a big year." So even though us as pacer fans think Murphy isnt earning his pay BIrd may either think he is or hes about to.
4th In reference to our current back up future starting sg Bird has been very encouraged by what he's seen from rookie swingman Brandon Rush. "It's going to be very interesting to watch Brandon take the next step," Bird said, "because I think he's very close." This combined with his trust in Dunleavy makes me think Daniels is very expendable.
5th Defense. The team's success hinges on its ability to improve, defensively. "I know the coach has been working on changing some tactics and I think we're going to be better on the defensive end," Bird said. "We have to be if we're going to win games." Obviously the loss of Jo is going to hurt us in the post on d. It was bad enough last but without JO it could get ugly.
6th We're bringing back Austin this year," Bird said. "He's out there and he needs a place to go. He's been here (working out) the last couple of weeks and he looks good. Jimmy (O'Brien) loves him because he can shoot the 3-pointer." We all know Obie loves big men who can shoot the tree.
7th and finally we have heard him say it again and again with echos form morway and simon. Tinsley will be traded to make our team better. NOt bought out.
I said all of this to say this. And Im ready to be chewedout.
Martin, Kleiza, 2nd
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Daniels, Tinsley, Shawne
We get the low post scorer he mentioned, we get better defensivly like bird said he wanted to. He looks to be set on keeping murphy which takes him out of a trade to denver. He seems set on dunleavy and rush at shooting gaurd leaving daniles tradable. wants to get rid of shawne and tinsley in the same trade. Obie gets another versatile big who can play sf and pf who can shoot the three.
Now I know people are going to start talking finances on me and as you should but lets look at what we hope to get done in the next year or so. Resign Danny, Foster, Jack, and Kleiza. So with this trade as is we should be able to be in a simalair cap siuation as we are now. The difference between Tinsley and martin is 8,163,636 next year and when you look at shawne, baston, mcroberts, and graham them being off the books after this season would save us 5,923,852 adifference of about 2.2 million. We would still have rasho exp which would cover MOST of Granger new contract making that CLOSE to a wash. Foster will either resign for the same or maybe less. Jack will get paid I would say close to what danny made this year maybe a little more. Which leaves Kleiza and Im not sure whathe will want. But all in all Ithink bringin 2 damn good players that fill position needs as well as talent needs while trading all 3 trouble makers we have left is a damn good idea seeing as cap wise we would only add about 2.2 mil depending on how you look at it.
09/10 Lineup
Ford/Jack/Deiner
Rush/Dunleavy/Den 2nd
Granger/Kleiza
Martin/Murphy/2nd
Hibbert/Foster/1st
Hell Our backups would be better than some starting linups. Jack/Dunleavy/Kleiza/Murphy/Foster.
So now that Ive wrote a freaking book. Let me have it. LOL. Hell at least I wasted some time at work. LOL.
1st I'll start with the rumor of Bird not wanting to include McRoberts but instead Shawne as incentive/filler for any trade involving Tinlsey. No Link it here somewhere will post later. The reasoning behind this I thin is 1. Bird is finished with Shawne just as much as Tinlsye 2. He thinks McRoberts will help moral and fan appriciation, and sell some tickets.
2nd In reference to losing that low post threat in JO. "We'll have a lot more open shots this year than in the past because of T.J. (Ford) and Jarrett (Jack) and even Travis because we can push the ball extremely hard. … (but) to win a championship in this league you've got to have a post scorer that can go down there and get a basket at the end of the game. We don't have that yet." This makes me think he really is looking and trying to aquire that pf we need.
3rd In reference to Murphy. Bird said he believes power forward Troy Murphy will have "his best year" this season. "He's really worked hard, he's thought about it, he's comfortable with his surroundings now," Bird said, "and I think he's going to have a big year." So even though us as pacer fans think Murphy isnt earning his pay BIrd may either think he is or hes about to.
4th In reference to our current back up future starting sg Bird has been very encouraged by what he's seen from rookie swingman Brandon Rush. "It's going to be very interesting to watch Brandon take the next step," Bird said, "because I think he's very close." This combined with his trust in Dunleavy makes me think Daniels is very expendable.
5th Defense. The team's success hinges on its ability to improve, defensively. "I know the coach has been working on changing some tactics and I think we're going to be better on the defensive end," Bird said. "We have to be if we're going to win games." Obviously the loss of Jo is going to hurt us in the post on d. It was bad enough last but without JO it could get ugly.
6th We're bringing back Austin this year," Bird said. "He's out there and he needs a place to go. He's been here (working out) the last couple of weeks and he looks good. Jimmy (O'Brien) loves him because he can shoot the 3-pointer." We all know Obie loves big men who can shoot the tree.
7th and finally we have heard him say it again and again with echos form morway and simon. Tinsley will be traded to make our team better. NOt bought out.
I said all of this to say this. And Im ready to be chewedout.
Martin, Kleiza, 2nd
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Daniels, Tinsley, Shawne
We get the low post scorer he mentioned, we get better defensivly like bird said he wanted to. He looks to be set on keeping murphy which takes him out of a trade to denver. He seems set on dunleavy and rush at shooting gaurd leaving daniles tradable. wants to get rid of shawne and tinsley in the same trade. Obie gets another versatile big who can play sf and pf who can shoot the three.
Now I know people are going to start talking finances on me and as you should but lets look at what we hope to get done in the next year or so. Resign Danny, Foster, Jack, and Kleiza. So with this trade as is we should be able to be in a simalair cap siuation as we are now. The difference between Tinsley and martin is 8,163,636 next year and when you look at shawne, baston, mcroberts, and graham them being off the books after this season would save us 5,923,852 adifference of about 2.2 million. We would still have rasho exp which would cover MOST of Granger new contract making that CLOSE to a wash. Foster will either resign for the same or maybe less. Jack will get paid I would say close to what danny made this year maybe a little more. Which leaves Kleiza and Im not sure whathe will want. But all in all Ithink bringin 2 damn good players that fill position needs as well as talent needs while trading all 3 trouble makers we have left is a damn good idea seeing as cap wise we would only add about 2.2 mil depending on how you look at it.
09/10 Lineup
Ford/Jack/Deiner
Rush/Dunleavy/Den 2nd
Granger/Kleiza
Martin/Murphy/2nd
Hibbert/Foster/1st
Hell Our backups would be better than some starting linups. Jack/Dunleavy/Kleiza/Murphy/Foster.
So now that Ive wrote a freaking book. Let me have it. LOL. Hell at least I wasted some time at work. LOL.