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I have PP Girl's high school reunion tonight, sorry no thread.

Let's get a W!

wow thanks for taking out ford half way through the 1st for jack again obie, now lets all watch the lead go

Really don't like Jack. Howard killing us. We need to have jack run right at howard 10 times in a row and either Howard gets fouled out or Jack.

Either way, I"m happy.

Down by 20, at least Hibbert is playing well.

Let Ford play the whole 4th and Indiana will come back.

Since everyone always seems so dazzled by player's +/-, I thought it was fairly interesting that the only player on our roster in the + tonight was Jarrett Jack (+2). I love how our fans always have to have one particular person to blame for our failures. Let me not forget to mention that T.J. Ford had the team's worst +/- with a -19.

Dunthreevy wrote:Since everyone always seems so dazzled by player's +/-, I thought it was fairly interesting that the only player on our roster in the + tonight was Jarrett Jack (+2). I love how our fans always have to have one particular person to blame for our failures. Let me not forget to mention that T.J. Ford had the team's worst +/- with a -19.

Can you not see how much better the ball movement is when TJ Ford is on the floor. He has the ability to conistently break down the opposing Defence and get people open shots. Today unfortunately no one was hitting them. Probably tired from last night.

We're in trouble now.

TJFordisGod wrote:

Dunthreevy wrote:Since everyone always seems so dazzled by player's +/-, I thought it was fairly interesting that the only player on our roster in the + tonight was Jarrett Jack (+2). I love how our fans always have to have one particular person to blame for our failures. Let me not forget to mention that T.J. Ford had the team's worst +/- with a -19.

Can you not see how much better the ball movement is when TJ Ford is on the floor. He has the ability to conistently break down the opposing Defence and get people open shots. Today unfortunately no one was hitting them. Probably tired from last night.

He's not creating too many open shots, considering he's averaging 5 assists and 2 turnovers per game. I love that we have T.J. on the team but he has not been quite the playmaker that he should be so far. I guess you could blame that on our mediocre shooting considering we're 17th in the league is FG%, but regardless T.J. hasn't been THAT great at creating shots for everyone else. He looked much better the first couple weeks of the season than he has the second half of November. For a guy who is supposed to be one of the best PG's in the East, him having double figure assist numbers only once so far is pretty surprising. Last night he looked downright horrible against a career 2nd or 3rd option at PG in Anthony Johnson.

Dunthreevy wrote:Since everyone always seems so dazzled by player's +/-, I thought it was fairly interesting that the only player on our roster in the + tonight was Jarrett Jack (+2). I love how our fans always have to have one particular person to blame for our failures. Let me not forget to mention that T.J. Ford had the team's worst +/- with a -19.

In a game like this, Howard had more to do with plus minus and our loss than anyone.

Dunthreevy wrote:

TJFordisGod wrote:

Dunthreevy wrote:Since everyone always seems so dazzled by player's +/-, I thought it was fairly interesting that the only player on our roster in the + tonight was Jarrett Jack (+2). I love how our fans always have to have one particular person to blame for our failures. Let me not forget to mention that T.J. Ford had the team's worst +/- with a -19.

Can you not see how much better the ball movement is when TJ Ford is on the floor. He has the ability to conistently break down the opposing Defence and get people open shots. Today unfortunately no one was hitting them. Probably tired from last night.

He's not creating too many open shots, considering he's averaging 5 assists and 2 turnovers per game. I love that we have T.J. on the team but he has not been quite the playmaker that he should be so far. I guess you could blame that on our mediocre shooting considering we're 17th in the league is FG%, but regardless T.J. hasn't been THAT great at creating shots for everyone else. He looked much better the first couple weeks of the season than he has the second half of November. For a guy who is supposed to be one of the best PG's in the East, him having double figure assist numbers only once so far is pretty surprising. Last night he looked downright horrible against a career 2nd or 3rd option at PG in Anthony Johnson.

He is creating a lot of open shots, guys are just not hitting them. Last night i think everyone played bad, but regardless TJ Ford is a far better playmaker than Jack and the fact that they are almost getting equal playing time is outrageous.

Ford and Jack aren't almost getting equal playing time. T.J. is getting 9 minutes more per game and that's with Jack splitting time at the point and shooting guard positions.

Still too much playing time for Jack. Ford should be playing 37-40 mins a game for this team to succeed. Chris Paul gets 37.5, Calderon 37.3, D Rose, 37.8, and apparently Ford is suppose to be the "star" point guard on this team but for some reason is getting benched in the 4th half the time and being taken out for jack.