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GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:19 am
by Grang33r
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Indiana Pacers [7-13] @ Toronto Raptors [8-12]
| Wednesday, December, 10 2008 | Toronto, Canada | Air Canada Centre | 7:00 pm ET |
| TV: FSIN, TSN | Radio: WIBC 1070

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Indiana Pacers

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Toronto Raptors


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Pacers

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Raptors

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Stat Player AVG

Scoring Danny Granger, 23.1; Marquis Daniels, 15.9; TJ Ford, 14.3
Rebounds Troy Murphy, 10.6; Jeff Foster, 6; M. Daniels, 5.8
Assists T.J. Ford 5.3; Jarret Jack, 3.1
FG% Rasho Nesterovic 50.3
FT% T.J. Ford 91.4
3PT% Brandon Rush 39.5
Blocks Danny Granger 1.6
Steals Danny Granger 1.0

Stat Player AVG
Scoring Chris Bosh 25.7; Jermaine O'Neal, 12.9; Jose Calderon, 12.8
Rebounds Chris Bosh 10.1; J. O'Neal, 8.1; Andrea Bargnani, 5.1
Assists Jose Calderon 9.6; Will Solomon, 3.1
FG% Chris Bosh 52.4
FT% Jose Calderon 100.0
3PT% Jason Kapono 51.5
Blocks Jermaine O'Neal 1.7
Steals Anthony Parker 1.6

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---PACERS TEAM REPORT----

Getting Inside

The Pacers will get their first look at the player that helped them win 61 games several years ago when they take on the Toronto Raptors on Wednesday.

Forward Jermaine O’Neal spent eight seasons in Indiana where he was third in the MVP voting in 2004 and a six-time All Star. Injuries kept O’Neal from continuing to put up All-Star numbers.

The more he was injured and the more the Pacers continued to lose, the more his relationship with Pacers president Larry Bird soured. O’Neal mentioned several times over the past few offseasons that he and the Pacers should part ways if they couldn’t get back to being an elite team.

Bird sent O’Neal packing in June when he sent him to Toronto for point guard T.J. Ford, center Rasho Nesterovic and forward Maceo Baston.

O’Neal, who is All-Star Chris Bosh’s sidekick in Canada, is averaging 12.2 points and 8.1 rebounds with the Raptors.

Celtics 122, Pacers 117:
The Pacers were a missed rebound away from handing the Celtics their third loss of the season. The Celtics took advantage of the Pacers’ inability to rebound by getting a Paul Pierce three-pointer to send the game into overtime and eventually hand the Pacers their fifth loss in the past six games. Guard Marquis Daniels led the Pacers with 26 points. Forward Danny Granger added 20 points on 7-of-22 shooting.

Notes, Quotes

• The Pacers have allowed their last five opponents to shoot at least 50 percent from the field and have given up an average of 112 points, including 122 to Boston, in that same span. The Pacers are 1-4 in those games.

• The Pacers are 0-3 in overtime games this season. The problem the Pacers are dealing with is their inability to hold onto leads. They’ve had leads late in the fourth quarter of each of those games only to squander it and having it eventually cost them.

• The Pacers shot at least 50 percent from the field for just the second time this season when they made 51 percent of their shots against the Celtics. The other time the Pacers shot at least 50 percent was when they were 44-of-80 (55 percent) against Atlanta on Nov. 18.

Quote To Note: “We came out with a lot of energy and focus. We just didn’t close it out. We hustled, gave it our best and we must learn from these games.”—Guard Marquis Daniels.

Player Notes:

• F Jeff Foster grabbed five rebounds to move past Darnell Hillman for ninth place on the franchise’s all-time career list. Foster has 4,373 rebounds in his career.

• G Marquis Daniels continues to do his best to make Mike Dunleavy’s absence less noticeable. Daniels had his fifth game of at least 20 points when he scored a season-high 26 points on 11-of-16 shooting.

• G Brandon Rush got his first DNP-Coach’s Decision. Coach Jim O’Brien is giving Stephen Graham Rush’s minutes because he feels like the rookie out of Kansas is struggling right now. O’Brien added that Rush is going to have a good year, he just needs to sit and watch for the time being.

• F Danny Granger didn’t have a great shooting night—7-of-22—but he had a team-high six assists and a season-high three steals. Granger finished with 20 points in 41 minutes.

Medical Watch:

• G Mike Dunleavy (knee) is sidelined indefinitely because of tendinitis in his right knee. Dunleavy, the Pacers second leading scorer last season, played just 12 minutes in the preseason and has only taken part in one practice since training camp started in late September.


Link- http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... eam_report

RAPTORS TEAM REPORT

Getting Inside

The Raptors could use some talent but they could also use a break from the schedule as they try to adapt to a new coach with a new system and snap a four-game losing streak.

Their next game—Tuesday in Cleveland—begins a stretch of five games in seven days, all against teams with records better than theirs.

“It’s going to be tough,” interim coach Jay Triano said. “Our practices are going to be the games as well. We have to take the stuff in games and go back and show them. A lot of practice might not be physical in the next little bit.”

A pasting in Salt Lake City in Triano’s first game and a narrow loss to Portland in his second have shown that’s going to take time for the Raptors to find the kind of read-and-react flow Triano wants and a sea change on defense that will see them try to deal with opponents in a diametrically different way than they did under Sam Mitchell.

And time is something they don’t have.

They play in Cleveland on Tuesday and back home on Wednesday. They go to New Jersey on Friday and return home for a back-to-back home set at the Air Canada Centre a week from Monday and Tuesday so the best they’ll get is three days in the gym—and one of them will be after playing on consecutive nights—to implement anything new.

“We’ve got to have practice time, you have to have games,” said Chris Bosh, who was rather ordinary in an 18-point, 11-assist outing against the Jazz. “There’s just so many different things you have to do and, I mean, making changes on the fly, that’s tough.

“But there’s no excuse for us. We still have to come out and play basketball games and we still expect to win every time we come out on the court.”

Blazers 98, Raptors 97: Chris Bosh missed a running lay-up at the buzzer and Steve Blake’s three-pointer with 8.4 seconds left was the difference as Portland extended Toronto’s losing streak to four.

Brandon Roy’s jumper with 48.2 seconds pulled Portland into a 95-95 tie before Bosh hit an 18-footer jumper with 27.4 seconds left to put Toronto up two. Bosh only got the shot because he rebounded his first attempt—a lay-up blocked by Greg Oden and kicked the ball out to Jose Calderon, who passed up an open three to give the ball to Toronto’s top offensive threat.

But the Blazers stole the lead on a scrambled play with less than 10 seconds left as Steve Blake tracked down a loose ball, may have pushed off on Calderon to create some space and hit a huge three-pointer to give the Blazers the lead.

Bosh was isolated on LaMarcus Aldridge with the game on the line and he took the ball to the rim but the imposing presence of Greg Oden forced Bosh to put the ball high off the glass and it missed.

Notes, Quotes

• Toronto was hammered 48-31 on the boards by Portland on Sunday afternoon, the eighth straight game in which the Raptors were out-rebounded. If it’s frustrating to the players, Chris Bosh doesn’t want to hear it.

“I’d like everybody to do me a favor and stop saying ‘frustrating,’” Bosh asked. “Everybody always says frustrating and how frustrating it is. We got out-rebounded. That’s the point about it, we know we have to get better at rebounding, it’s not frustrating—we just have to get better at it.”

• Toronto drew a season-low crowd of 17,681 for Portland’s lone visit of the season to the Air Canada Centre.

Quote To Note: “We need to just win one game to have the confidence back and everything is going to come. I think you saw, we are a much different team than a couple of games ago. That’s the way we want to play, that is our team right now.”—Jose Calderon.

Player Notes:

• G Jose Calderon should have more responsibility in the new offense that interim head coach Jay Triano wants to implement, which relies more on reading and reacting than on scripted plays. Calderon responded with a 13-assist effort in the second game under the new regime.

“I really like that,” he said. “That’s how I used to play when I was in Europe, we just have to read a bit more. We don’t have to call a lot of plays and that’s good.”

• F Joey Graham has played more than 20 minutes in each of the first two games under new coach Jay Triano. It’s the first time he’s had such a workload in consecutive games this year.

• F Jason Kapono had 10 field-goal attempts Sunday, the third time in five games he’s had that many shots. His being under-utilized was one of the big criticisms of now-fired coach Sam Mitchell.

Medical Watch:

• C Kris Humphries (right knee tendinitis) was on the active list but unavailable for Sunday’s game against Portland. He’s listed as day-to-day.

• C Nathan Jawai (cardiac issue) has yet to take part in so much as a workout after he was found to have some kind of unspecified cardiac problem in pre-training camp testing. It’s unclear when he will be able to play.


Link- http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... eam_report


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Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:02 am
by TJFordisGod
OMG im so hyped for this game!! Tell me if you c me on tv with my indiana ford jersey in the seats somewhere behind the net.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:16 am
by Kuq_e_Zi91
Great thread. I can't wait for this game. There's so many match-ups I'm looking forward to. TJ v Calderon, JO v Rasho, Joey v Stephen.

I think the key to winning this will be the bench play. Toronto doesn't go very deep, so if Jarrett, Jeff, Roy and even Graham come in and give us good minutes it would be huge.

Also, I don't think Bargnani can contain Danny so he needs to realize it and attack early. Maybe they put Parker on Danny though, then Marquis should have a good game.

Murph is gonna have his hands full with Bosh.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:42 am
by Vinsane15
Good luck ya'll, I want TJ to destroy Calderon but the Raps to win.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 5:45 am
by C_Money
I want TJ to drop 50 on Calderon just so Bryan Colangelo realizes that talent > personality.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:14 am
by Miller4ever
Toronto's coming off a tough loss to Cleveland from a previous day. Either this motivates them more, or they'll be tired from the back-to-back. We'll see what's up.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 6:25 am
by cdash
I'm with Miller4ever here. I'm a little scared that Toronto is pissed off after hearing how much they have underachieved thus far, and seeing as how they got stomped in Cleveland tonight. Throw in the game is in Toronto, and the smart money is probably on the Raps. I hope TJ evens that out by trying to show Colangelo and company what they traded away.

Sick game thread by the way.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:03 am
by Gremz
Toronto is a weird one. Who knows what to expect with them. It differs with each contest. One thing i do know is that we'll need our entire froncourt to be 100% committed on defense to get the desired result.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:51 pm
by mizzoupacers
Well this one sets up fairly well for us, since Toronto will be in the second night of a back-to-back. Too bad their game last night was a blowout instead of going into octuple overtime.

I think we've got a shot at this one, and with the way Detroit is playing, maybe a shot on Friday as well. I was worried about a 1-5 stretch for us, starting with the Lakers game. And that could still happen. But who knows, maybe we'll end up 3-3. That would be awesome considering the teams we've been playing.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 4:04 pm
by LatinoHeat
Yep unfortunately it was a blowout last night, so they didnt even play there starters in the 4th.

The key to this game is how we defend the pick and roll.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:20 pm
by Grang33r
There's only two real match-ups in this game for me to be watching for.

1. Pacers downlow defense vs. O'Neal/Bosh.

If we can not stop those two, i think we'll have our hands full all night. Even though that's an obvious statement for most teams, but we truly lack size. Our interior defense is not very good this season. If the Pacers can contain them both, our chances of winning will be very high.

2. Pacers perimeter shooting.

Toronto lacks defense on the outside. Which is our stregeth. If we avoid the big matchups down low, and have a good night shooting the ball, from Granger, Daniels, Murphy, Ford, Jack and hopefully Rush (if he plays), i think this could be a one-sided affair. Toronto doesn't want to play in a high scoring game with us.

Toronto is the 3rd best front court scoring team in the league. Indiana is 2nd best "out of paint" scoring team in the league. I don't think this game will be close. One team will run away with it. I am not too sure who though.

One can say that Toronto will be angey from their loss last night and come out big. They have lost 5 in a row. After a close loss to the Lakers, they got destroyed at Denver, followed by getting destroyed by Utah the next game. They got home to lose to Portland, even though they played very well and just barly lost, but last night got destroyed.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:34 pm
by APerna
Awesome thread.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:10 pm
by KDK_9867
i'll be great to see tj again

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:38 pm
by NG15
Here's a video of today with TJ talking to the Toronto media about both the Pacers and Raptors...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IKChbUhQok

(all credit goes to bigmac(rexdale)ghetto)

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:57 pm
by notque
Thanks, good looking out.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:03 pm
by raptorsam
C_Money wrote:I want TJ to drop 50 on Calderon just so Bryan Colangelo realizes that talent > personality.


QFT

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:28 pm
by MillerTime101
Thanks for the link NG15.

Should be a good game tonight.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:29 pm
by The Boshpit!
Key to beating the Raptors: let them build a 16 point lead.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:13 pm
by WesWesley
The Boshpit! wrote:Key to beating the Raptors: let them build a 16 point lead.



Key to beating Raptors: Pressure Jose, make him pass before Bosh can set a pick.

2) Attack Jose. Our bigs will come over to help and our 3s are terrible rebounders. Guys like Murphy should have a field day on the offensive glass.

Re: GDT- Game 21, Pacers @ Toronto

Posted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:11 pm
by Miller4ever
Based off of Jose Calderon's defense, TJ might have a good day if he hits his jumpers. The inside presence of Jermaine and Bosh will deter the ball from going into the basket if and when TJ gets inside.

The strength of Toronto's interior defense and much weaker outside defense really lends to our fun-loving, 3-gunning style of offense.