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Fire JOB

Posted: Fri Feb 6, 2009 2:08 pm
by Train7492
I know alot of you think we need to give him a couple more years but I'm not into watching the coach lose games for you, I think that he is up to 7-8 now look where we would be in the East with those games. His player rotation are terrible last night he had Denier and Ford on the floor at the same time sorry they work hard but they have a hard time quarding the worst PG in the league let alone one of them guarding a SG. The last 7 minutes of the game we couldn't get a rebound and he never made a sub left the worst rebounding team he could come up with out there. I just can't see how the fans don't see this, it has went on all year and everyone thinks its going to get better maybe if we get Lebron, Amare, Duncan so they can make you think the coach has got better.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Fri Feb 6, 2009 3:12 pm
by Miller4ever
He will stay until the end of the year. Then we dump him.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Fri Feb 6, 2009 3:34 pm
by xxSnEaKyPxx
Hardly anyone likes Obie. You are preaching to the choir.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Fri Feb 6, 2009 3:56 pm
by Train7492
From every other post that talks about OB everyone was saying give him 3 years I hope that doesn't happen. The thing that bothers me the most is that is fine if we are going to fire him at the end of the year, but if that is the case let the the guys that are in our future plans get the bulk of the playing time. We are not going to make it to the playoffs without a major trade so once the trade deadline is past start playing the young guys, maybe he will, I hope so. Maybe he is playing these guys to make them look productive.
I don't pay that much attention to the other teams but when they have bench guys that are being productive for a few games then do they put them on inactive roster for awhile like we do. Like McRoberts where has he been, Baston had been playing, I don't think he was dressed last night, I just don't understand how they are thinking. Most teams by this time of the year pretty much have a set rotation we don't even have a set starting line-up for more than two games in a row. (barring injury I know)

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Fri Feb 6, 2009 3:56 pm
by greenway84
I have made it known that JOB shouldn't be our coach. However he's not going anywhere until at least the end of the season. More than likely until Bird gets the pieces he thinks he needs to compete. Also he won't fire JOB until he knows there's a long term answer out there. And finally he wont ever be fired he'll be reassigned. Assistant or front office.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Fri Feb 6, 2009 5:12 pm
by bballpacen
Very few here are supporters of JOB, and I cant really claim that I am one of them... However, the worst think we could do is to fire him mid-season... But I dont think that is even a realistic option, even if we dont win a game the rest of the season...

As far as finding a replacement over the summer... It depends on who is available, what names would even want the job... If there is someone out there that the FO is enamored with, I would think that they would certainly make a move... However, as much as I dont want to see it, I do see a rather STRONG possibility, rather likelyhood of JOB coaching next years squad... LB has already been on record as saying that three years is the most you should go with one coach... And I dont think that Bird is all that dissapointed with JOB's performance... I mean we are performing just as most of us, and many nation wide suggested we would... Furthermore, unless we get some favorable luck, we are going to be in the same boat next year... I dont know if a "good" coach is gonna want to come to coach a borderline Play Off/ bottom dweller...

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Fri Feb 6, 2009 9:35 pm
by PR07
I'll say this for the Billionth time. It doesn't matter who coaches this team, we're going to be pretty mediocre with the current roster.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Fri Feb 6, 2009 10:15 pm
by Train7492
I'm not saying we would be a good team with a new coach, but he acts like he doesn't even care if we win or not, if that is the case then play the young guys and get them ready for next year. The way we are going right now we are not doing anything are we going to keep treeding water for 2 or 3 more years. We are going to have the 11th pick again this year and that isn't going to help us next year so play Rush, Hibbert so they can learn from their mistakes so we don't have the mistakes next year. To me unless Graham is in our future plans he would never see the floor, same way with Baston, Daniels, Rasho after the deadline.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Fri Feb 6, 2009 10:40 pm
by cdash
I'm with the crowd that says let him finish out the season, then can him. I think we can get more out of our roster.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Fri Feb 6, 2009 10:56 pm
by Miller4ever
Even if our roster is mediocre, our record is still underachieving. Right now our record is BAD. We are mediocre. We shouldn't be more than 5 games behind .500.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Sat Feb 7, 2009 12:16 am
by Scoot McGroot
From the beginning, I don't think anyone really expected him to be here more than 2 years, 3 tops and that was only if he does some miracle work.


He's about the best coach you can get when you're faced with a horrible salary structure, no fully developed youth, and an aging "superstar" that has bad health....and no quality PG on the roster to boot. He's the type of guy that would willingly take that job. He's the type of coach that would willingly take a job that is plunging into a full scale rebuild.


Then, when you have a high quality developing young player, and some other quality future youth to add to him, a semblance of a PG rotation, and light at the end of the tunnel in terms of the salary cap, you can go out and find a different, better coach who might be there to lead you out of the rebuild.


Rarely, if ever, does the same coach lead you out of a rebuild that you had going into the rebuild. Obie had his destiny here. It's almost fulfilled.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Sat Feb 7, 2009 12:30 am
by cdash
Well said Scoot. Agree 100%.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Sat Feb 7, 2009 1:44 am
by chatard5
Fire JOB? Then he won't have a JOB! Ha, at least I make myself laugh.

That was awful, I couldn't resist.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Sat Feb 7, 2009 4:14 am
by Gremz
Oh no, poor form.

It's suicide to make a coaching change right now. Perhaps the off season will be the right time. But i do agree that he would not be a very wise option in the long term.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Sat Feb 7, 2009 5:32 am
by bballpacen
I have a gut feeling that he will not only finish out this season, but next as well...

I do agree that he has made some poor coaching decisions, and I am not a fan of his rotations... But personally, I guess that I can live with his return next year, for a few reasons... IMO, he has done an ok job... The team has a better record than I thought, and most analysist thought... Secondly, I dont foresee a coach out there that I would rather have than JOB... I think that we could do better than JOB, sure, but we could also do MUCH worse...

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Sun Feb 8, 2009 2:46 am
by PR07
That raises the question of who you'd want to replace O'Brien that would be an upgrade:

A castoff like Sam Mitchell, Avery Johnson, or Maurice Cheeks?

A newbie like Mark Jackson?

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Sun Feb 8, 2009 3:00 am
by cdash
Mark Jackson comes to mind immediately. I'd like to see about Tom Thibodeau and some other assistant coaches too.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Sun Feb 8, 2009 3:29 am
by Miller4ever
I could ask Mark Jackson personally.

He's probably not into coaching right now. He has a son in high school playing ball, and so he may not get into coaching until Mark Jr. graduates.

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Sun Feb 8, 2009 5:02 am
by chatard5
You all are doing a good job about not laughing at my hilarious joke, I don't know how you can hold it in!

Re: Fire JOB

Posted: Sun Feb 8, 2009 6:34 am
by Miller4ever
Trust me, it takes a lot of self-control.