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Ben Gordon

Posted: Sun May 3, 2009 7:36 pm
by Crossova21
He's a free agent and is looking for a contract similar to Luol Deng's. I was just wondering if we dont bring Nesterovich and Daniels back next year would we have enough to pick up Gordon as a 6th man. Nesterovich is getting 31 mil and Daniels is getting 25 mil.

Don't really know how NBA contracts work.

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Sun May 3, 2009 7:48 pm
by Dunthreevy
Based off how Gordon handled his contract negotiations last off-season and his general feelings about his status in the league. There is no way in heck that he's going to sign on to be a 6th man. Plus I don't think that we have the money to even offer him the MLE (which wouldn't even be enough) if we plan on re-signing Jarrett.

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Sun May 3, 2009 7:49 pm
by PaceWalker
Not enough shots to go around if we were to pick him up. He takes a lot of shots and a lot of bad ones at that. Plus we are set on wing players.

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Sun May 3, 2009 7:50 pm
by xxSnEaKyPxx
I wouldn't give him more than 8, and thats only because of what he did in the playoffs. Ideally I'd only give him 7 max...either way, hes going to get a huge contract from someone and be the next overpayed player in the NBA.

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Sun May 3, 2009 7:59 pm
by Miller4ever
Totally agree with DGrange. Gordon, to me, is too unilateral of a player to really be worth 8 mil, but that's what he's going to get signed for. Do we want an undersized SG coming off the bench for 6 mil? No...

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Sun May 3, 2009 8:12 pm
by TJFordisGod
^ I would sign him for 6 million in a heart beat. But if he's looking for Luol Deng money only the Thunder, Pistons and Grizzlies have the cap space for that.

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Sun May 3, 2009 8:14 pm
by Dunthreevy
TJFordisGod wrote:^ I would sign him for 6 million in a heart beat. But if he's looking for Luol Deng money only the Thunder, Pistons and Grizzlies have the cap space for that.



I could see Detroit trying to sign him. There is going to be huge turnaround there this off-season I think. Maybe not 7 new players on the roster like we did this past off-season, but I definitely see some of their starters finding new homes and being replaced.

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Sun May 3, 2009 8:16 pm
by count55
Miller4ever wrote:Totally agree with DGrange. Gordon, to me, is too unilateral of a player to really be worth 8 mil, but that's what he's going to get signed for. Do we want an undersized SG coming off the bench for 6 mil? No...


First, I have no idea where the OP got the Daniels and Nesterovic numbers, but basically the most we could offer a free agent is the MLE, which is about $6mm.

Second, we really can't afford to use the full MLE, and we probably won't be able to use much, if any of it, if we re-sign Jack.

Third, Gordon's going to get someone to offer him sizable money, and that team will regret it almost immediately. He can score, and that's it...and teams are willing to let him have the ball to some degree because that means that Derrick Rose doesn't have it. It's very simple...when Rose plays well and is the most important player, Chicago is a good, very dangerous team. When he struggles and fades in the background, they're a bad team.

Finally, this...unilateral...I don't think that word means what you think it means.

What you are looking for is one dimensional.

Unless Gordon is will to play for peanuts and come off the bench in a Vinnie Johnson Microwave role, I don't want anything to do with him.

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Sun May 3, 2009 8:32 pm
by Miller4ever
Unilateral is one sided, and I was meaning he's only offensive, but I guess even that is too generous, because he can only shoot. He botches so many close attempts.

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Sun May 3, 2009 9:40 pm
by xxSnEaKyPxx
Yea, I'd never want him to start on our team. But he'd be a great 6th man.

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Mon May 4, 2009 1:01 am
by cdash
No thanks to Ben Gordon in any realistic capacity. He is a black hole on offense when he gets the ball, he absolutely has to get his shots, and he isn't much of a defender. Thanks, but no thanks.

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Mon May 4, 2009 1:03 am
by Scoot McGroot
It's just not possible.

Sure, lot's of things can be negotiated and change, but unless his achilles tendon snaps in an off-season work out, Indy can't sign him.

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Thu May 7, 2009 12:48 am
by PR07
He turned down 11 million per year last year, so he's not signing for any bargain. Plus, is he what we need? We don't need scoring. We need better defense and overall athleticism, and someone who can be a presence in the paint.

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 9:23 am
by DannyGranger
we have absolutely no money to sign him. Remember Granger's extension is kicking in. Our first priority is to use some of (not all) to reisgn Jack and stay under the Luxury Tax

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 1:45 pm
by chatard5
I hope the Bulls overpay him and then can't afford Tyrus Thomas, Noah, and Rose. So then they have to trade us Rose and we get a steal! Thanks Ben!

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:09 pm
by s_g_b
Oh bud, Pacers have a 14-10 guy with absolutely 0 Defence at 10 millions per season . Gordon worth that money

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:18 pm
by chatard5
Nnnnnnnnnooooooooooooope

Re: Ben Gordon

Posted: Thu May 14, 2009 2:28 pm
by cdash
s_g_b wrote:Oh bud, Pacers have a 14-10 guy with absolutely 0 Defence at 10 millions per season . Gordon worth that money


So, based off of your reasoning, since we overpay one guy, we should just overpay everyone? Someone needs to let you run a company!