Could Conley become available?

Post #1 » by **PR07** » Wed May 20, 2009 1:18 am

If the Clippers take Blake Griffin as expected, and Memphis takes the next best player available in Ricky Rubio, could Mike Conley become available? If so, you'd think the Pacers would have to have at least mild interest.

cdash · Post #2 » by **cdash** » Wed May 20, 2009 1:29 am

Oh, I bet he is available. They haven't been that high on him thus far, and Rubio is an obvious ugrade imo. What kind of offers could/would we make? Obviously, you don't trade Granger, Rush, or Hibbert. Foster? Future pick? Ford?

Post #3 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed May 20, 2009 1:41 am

We don't have enough to offer if we're not putting Rush, Hibbert, or obviously Granger on the board.

Without those 3, there's nothing of interest for Memphis.

However, I'd think it'd be a bit more suitable for Memphis and the Clippers to swap picks. Memphis really needs a strong PF to put next to Gasol, while the Clippers are just screwed, but they have Kaman long-term, and are stuck with Randolph and Camby in the meantime.

Realistically, I think the Clippers are really regretting almost all their moves they made last offseason. Signing Baron, and using up cap space on Camby is just not necessary when they could have a core of Griffin, Gordon, and Kaman, with a lot of cash to spend this offseason.

cdash · Post #4 » by **cdash** » Wed May 20, 2009 1:46 am

I'd be willing to deal Hibbert, but not Rush or Granger.

Post #5 » by **PR07** » Wed May 20, 2009 2:24 am

I don't think the Clippers can pass on Blake Griffin, regardless of need.

I could see the Grizz maybe trading down a few spots and taking Thabeet though.

Post #6 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Wed May 20, 2009 2:34 am

I can't see OKC passing on Thabeet at #3. They really need an answer at center there, and playing Nick Collison there isn't it.

Post #7 » by **PR07** » Wed May 20, 2009 2:42 am

Good point. Maybe if their enamored with Jordan Hill, but more than likely, Thabeet will be their guy.

cdash · Post #8 » by **cdash** » Wed May 20, 2009 2:54 am

Chad Ford's early mock has Memphis taking Thabeet at #2, and he even said he heard that they would be the only team to consider taking Thabeet had they gotten #1.

chatard5 · Post #9 » by **chatard5** » Wed May 20, 2009 3:36 am

Whaaat, that's crazy. I hope they take Rubio. But yeah, we can't really offer much. If they like Thabeet so much we will give them a similar player in Hibbert. Then maybe trade Ford and our draft pick for a center. I don't know, I am tired and need to go to bed, but I want Conley! I will trade any1/any pick but Granger and Rush (or they can have Rush if we get Mayo

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chatard5 · Post #10 » by **chatard5** » Wed May 20, 2009 3:37 am

Maybe a 3-team trade where someone is looking for a more experienced PG in TJ and then we can throw in our pick somewhere, too. Then we get to keep Hibbert and don't have to worry about have an extra PG to try and trade.

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #11 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Wed May 20, 2009 3:58 am

I wouldn't trade Hibbert for Conely.

cdash · Post #12 » by **cdash** » Wed May 20, 2009 4:04 am

I would, assuming we wouldn't go into next season with Ford, Jack, Conley, Diener, and Tinsley all still on the roster.

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #13 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Wed May 20, 2009 4:10 am

Why trade a young Center for a PG when we already have options at PG - especially since this is a good PG draft. 7'3 Centers who actually show promise once in the NBA don't come along often...I'd take Hibbert/any PG around our area over Conely/...no Centers worth taking at 13, which would leave us with a Henderson like player, anyday of the week.

cdash · Post #14 » by **cdash** » Wed May 20, 2009 4:20 am

Because I like Conley and I am not wild about Hibbert.

Post #15 » by **Grang33r** » Wed May 20, 2009 4:31 am

PacersRule07 wrote:If the Clippers take Blake Griffin as expected, and Memphis takes the next best player available in Ricky Rubio, could Mike Conley become available? If so, you'd think the Pacers would have to have at least mild interest.

I was just listening to espn radio and Chad Ford was on. He said he talked to a guy within the know inside Memphis and they told him if they had the #1 pick, they'd pick Thabeet over Griffen. He said they were the only team in the lottery who would do that. So, it's safe to say, Thabeet to Memphis at #2.

Post #16 » by **Grang33r** » Wed May 20, 2009 4:33 am

^^ oops, didn't read the whole thread and cdash posted what i posted first. haha my bad.

Dunthreevy · Post #17 » by **Dunthreevy** » Wed May 20, 2009 4:38 am

DGrangeRx33 wrote:Why trade a young Center for a PG when we already have options at PG - especially since this is a good PG draft. 7'3 Centers who actually show promise once in the NBA don't come along often...I'd take Hibbert/any PG around our area over Conely/...no Centers worth taking at 13, which would leave us with a Henderson like player, anyday of the week.

I'd have to agree there. Sure it would be cool to see Conley come home but he hasn't shown really anything in the NBA to warrant any team actively pursuing him as if he's a commodity. I'd be willing to bet that there will be at least 3 PG's (possibly more) from this draft that turn out better than Conley.

cdash · Post #18 » by **cdash** » Wed May 20, 2009 4:49 am

It's possible. It just really depends on what you think of Hibbert I guess.

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #19 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Wed May 20, 2009 5:00 am

I mean, I'm thinking you must despise Hibbert to be willing to trade him for Conely in this draft.

Solid 7'3 Centers are so rare to find...I mean, you can ask Grang33r, just last night I was saying how Hibbert really needs to step it up next year or else I don't see much happening with him, but we are at the point where worst case scenario, hes the best Center off the bench in the NBA(if he can't stay out of foul trouble - which I'm thinking he will change). There are so few good Centers nowadays that Hibbert could become a huge threat down the road. He has the work ethic, offensive talent, defensive potential, and I.Q. to become a top 5 Center...will he ever get there, who knows, but if you look around at the NBA Centers, and which ones will still be productive two years from now, Hibbert could easily be in the top 5. For crying out loud, the East didn't even have a backup Center on the All-Star team this year.

Post #20 » by **Grang33r** » Wed May 20, 2009 5:13 am

Just my $0.02 but i wouldn't trade Hibbert for Conley and i am a big Conley fan. But, as dgrangr33 said above, centers his size are hard to come by. What impresses me most with him is that he's got a really high basketball iq. His main default now is fouls. A player with his smarts will be able to adjust imo. His first year in Georgetown he didn't play that well either and couldn't earn much time, but improved and adjusted very well as his career moved forward. It's way too early to give up on Hibbert. I understand we wouldnt be really giving him up, but the reward is much higher with Hibbert then it is with Conley, and both have bust possibilities.