Possible Jack Replacements?

[PR07]

Here are two guys that they already have had interest in:

Luther Head: Jim O'Brien's Tony Delk? Sharpshooter from outside, who can play both the 1 and 2 (much like Jack). Will not make many plays for others, but he doesn't turn the ball over either, and is a solid defender.

Anthony Carter: Veteran who has been around a while, but is pretty consistent. You know what you're going to get with AC. He's a tough defender at PG who won't turn the ball over. His offense is pretty much nonexistent, but his consistency and defense make up for it. I think I saw that Denver used him some at the 2 along with Billups, and that he sometimes guarded Kobe in their playoff series.

Guys I'd like to see us pursue: CJ Watson and Chris Wilcox. Watson has some upside that might be worth taking a flyer on. Wilcox would give us an athletic big who can block some shots and rebound.

[raptorsfan_04]

I don't get it you guys already signed Dauntey Jones why sign another or are you guys planning on playing him at the sg.

[Miller4ever]

Jones is not a PG.

[wemisurm]

Who else is out there at that position that the Pacers would look at?

I like Head a lot as well as Sessions but I doubt we get him.

What about Tyronne Lou? Might be a decent backup to replace Jack

[Dunthreevy]

Basically we're screwed at the PG position right now. We won't have the cash to sign Sessions and he's the only PG available right now that's better than TJ Ford. Bringing in Luther Head isn't going to solve anything, neither will Tyronne Lue, and neither will CJ Watson.

Some of you guys are really reaching for guys because the current crop of available PGs is filled with nothing more than backups. Losing Jack is going to hurt us A LOT, and the only way we can make up for it is Sessions (which won't happen).

[Crossova21]

Kinda wish we would've taken Jrue Holiday

[joew8302]

If we don't get Jack I am not sure why we would go after anyone else. Yes, we will be very thin at pg, but that isn't a justification to get some run of the mill pg here and throw 3 million dollars at him. Why not just eat the bad pg play this year and wait until next year to pursue finding someone.

[PR07]

No one's reach for anything. These are the guys that are left, these are the guys we'll probably look at. Maybe we could work out a S&T involving Ford for Andre Miller. Iverson and Marbury are other possibilities, but both will bring their fair share of headaches and might be more trouble than their worth.

[Dunthreevy]

If we don't get Jack I am not sure why we would go after anyone else. Yes, we will be very thin at pg, but that isn't a justification to get some run of the mill pg here and throw 3 million dollars at him. Why not just eat the bad pg play this year and wait until next year to pursue finding someone.

Exactly. I'd rather go into the season with the 3 PGs we have now than to waste money on ANOTHER backup PG. It would be a very stupid move for a team that's already strapped for cash. That's why I say some of you guys are reaching for anything you can grab onto. No sense in throwing millions at a guy whose impact will be no more significant than the 3 PGs we already have on the roster.

I'd rather re-sign Quisy than waste money on a piss poor PG to add to our influx of subpar guys that we already have.

[grewich]

If we don't get Jack I am not sure why we would go after anyone else. Yes, we will be very thin at pg, but that isn't a justification to get some run of the mill pg here and throw 3 million dollars at him. Why not just eat the bad pg play this year and wait until next year to pursue finding someone.

Exactly. I'd rather go into the season with the 3 PGs we have now than to waste money on ANOTHER backup PG. It would be a very stupid move for a team that's already strapped for cash. That's why I say some of you guys are reaching for anything you can grab onto. No sense in throwing millions at a guy whose impact will be no more significant than the 3 PGs we already have on the roster.

I'd rather re-sign Quisy than waste money on a piss poor PG to add to our influx of subpar guys that we already have.

^^^^
quisy can kinda plan the point...does this free up any $$$ for him?...

[8305]

There is probably no point in even offering our MLE to Sessions. Good chance he would reject it since by almost anyone's standards he's worth more than that. I never thought Luther Head even was a point guard and Anthony Carter is a borderline competent back pg (same as Diener). Rodney Carey is a wing, wouldn't think spending more money there makes any sense.

A sign and trade of Ford for Andre Miller would mean we are comfortable with him for 3 or more years at 7 or 8 million. I would have the same hesitation the 76ers have had with that.

HOuston needs a center. Jeff Foster and Travis Diener for Carl Landry, Kyle Lowry and Brian Cook. Don't know if Houston does this but the salaries match. Lowry is still young, could push Ford and give you a pretty solid backup. He and Cook expire after this season. Landry's contract is reasonable and he's a nice player to boot.

Jeff Foster and Travis Diener for Luke Ridinour. I know the Bucks kill on this trade but Ridinour is an expiring contract. He has been a starter who is also good enough to push (and probably take the starting position from TJ just like every other back up has).

I like the first deal the best. Lowry being the better defender would be the better compliment to Ford.

[Scoot McGroot]

Offer a guy like Kevin Ollie one year at the vet minimum to come in and platoon with Diener as the backup.

You solve any worries about health or anything like that, while not committing any future salary as well.


There's no starter caliber guys out there other than Sessions and Andre Miller, but we can't afford either one. However, we do have a starting PG on the roster in TJ Ford. Let him play, and bring in a guy behind him to help out in a pinch like Kevin Ollie.



As it is, Jrue Holiday would've done nothing for us this year. He's 3-4 years away from being a solid contributor in all likelihood.

[Dunthreevy]

I find it damn near laughable to think that Luke Ridnour is much better than Diener. I don't see how that trade does anything but replace Diener with a nearly identical player, who might be slightly better and makes us weaker at the 5. Diener is expiring after this year too isn't he?

[PR07]

Kevin Ollie is still in the league? I still remember his ill-advised shot with us against the Nets in Game 7 of that playoff series late in the game.

[MillerTime101]

Offer a guy like Kevin Ollie one year at the vet minimum to come in and platoon with Diener as the backup.

You solve any worries about health or anything like that, while not committing any future salary as well.


There's no starter caliber guys out there other than Sessions and Andre Miller, but we can't afford either one. However, we do have a starting PG on the roster in TJ Ford. Let him play, and bring in a guy behind him to help out in a pinch like Kevin Ollie.



As it is, Jrue Holiday would've done nothing for us this year. He's 3-4 years away from being a solid contributor in all likelihood.

I agree with Scoot, just sign a reliable back up to share the duties with Diener.

I think some of you are blowing this PG situation out of proportion, TJ Ford is a capable starter and Diener is a capable back up. Is it the best combo? No, but it is good enough for what we are trying to do this season.

That being said I would be open to the idea of moving Foster to Denver to try and pry away Ty Lawson and then use our remaining cap space on a big.

[Deadpool Raptor]

Kevin Ollie is still in the league? I still remember his ill-advised shot with us against the Nets in Game 7 of that playoff series late in the game.

Wait'a hold a grudge... but when role players chuck... that's bad news.

[PaceWalker]

Offer a guy like Kevin Ollie one year at the vet minimum to come in and platoon with Diener as the backup.

You solve any worries about health or anything like that, while not committing any future salary as well.


There's no starter caliber guys out there other than Sessions and Andre Miller, but we can't afford either one. However, we do have a starting PG on the roster in TJ Ford. Let him play, and bring in a guy behind him to help out in a pinch like Kevin Ollie.



As it is, Jrue Holiday would've done nothing for us this year. He's 3-4 years away from being a solid contributor in all likelihood.

I agree with Scoot, just sign a reliable back up to share the duties with Diener.

I think some of you are blowing this PG situation out of proportion, TJ Ford is a capable starter and Diener is a capable back up. Is it the best combo? No, but it is good enough for what we are trying to do this season.

That being said I would be open to the idea of moving Foster to Denver to try and pry away Ty Lawson and then use our remaining cap space on a big.

I agree. I don't know why everyone is freaking out so much. Ford is a good PG. He was very clutch in a couple of games down the stretch and i believe still has a chance to be really good in our system. Add a veteran PG and suck it up this season. Patience is a virtue when rebuilding so we shouldn't just sign someone else for big money without thinking clearly. We aren't going to win a championship this season so why blow some money this season that will endanger future moves in 2011-2012.

Patience, Patience, Patience.

[glasket]

Yes quickdraw is a good PG, I still like him and think he is a starting PG in this league.
Is he amazing, NO, but he is good.
The problem is that based on his past history he can't stay healthy for 82 games and for all those he misses we don't have a quality backup to start (I really do hope AJ Price proves me wrong, and Diener is 3rd string).
We are a team that is in the hunt for realistically 6-8th seed in the playoffs, and as you saw last season every game and every win counts. Without a quality PG to start in TJ's place when he is injured, that can prove detrimental to our playoff chances.

[chatard5]

I like head and wouldn't mind getting Luther Head at all, either.

[ALL HAIL]

Jordan Farmar.

He could probably be had if the Pacers sign and trade Marquis Daniels.

Bada bing, bada BOOM!