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7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:54 pm
by PR07
The Indiana Pacers announced Wednesday that a resolution has been reached between the team and guard Jamaal Tinsley, and as a result the grievance arbitration scheduled for next week has been canceled.
Tinsley will be waived by the Pacers Wednesday, and if he clears waivers, he will become a free agent.

“This ends a very difficult period for all parties involved,” said Larry Bird, President of Basketball. “We are pleased to have this resolved.”

Pursuant to team policy, details of the resolution will not be disclosed. The team will have no further comment.

“Jamaal and I would like to thank the Pacers for working on a resolution to this and Jamaal and I are sorry things didn’t work out,” said Tinsley’s agent, Raymond Brothers. “We both wish the Pacers the best of luck in the future.”


http://www.nba.com/pacers/news/tinsley_090722.html

Remember this date Pacer fans. It's about time.

Re: 7/22: Pacers &Tinsley Reach Buy-out Resolution

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:57 pm
by MUpacersSIC
It's about time!

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's gone)

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:58 pm
by PR07

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's gone)

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:59 pm
by Dunthreevy
Good riddance!

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:01 am
by Dunthreevy
PR07 wrote:Remember this date Pacer fans. It's about time.


Yes, the day the Pacers re-signed Josh McRoberts. This one is going down in history :)

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:03 am
by glasket
If he clrears waivers but no one picks him up do we still get his salary hit?
If someone does pick him up is his salary hit removed from us?

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:03 am
by PR07
We wouldn't be responsible for any of his salary, but that has 0% chance of happening.

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:04 am
by mizzoupacers
Let me add a :sad: because the Pacers still have to count his sorry azz against the cap for the next two years.

But otherwise, yeah, most definitely

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

It's the last act in the most disappointing era ever in Pacers basketball. Should be all uphill from here.

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:04 am
by greenway84
what... no further comment. thats bs. so i assume this isnt a buyout then? im happy yet frustrated with the lack of detail.

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:10 am
by glasket
mizzoupacers wrote:Let me add a :sad: because the Pacers still have to count his sorry azz against the cap for the next two years.

But otherwise, yeah, most definitely

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

It's the last act in the most disappointing era ever in Pacers basketball. Should be all uphill from here.


So regardless of whether he gets picked up by another team his salary still counts towards our cap?

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:14 am
by greenway84
yep

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:21 am
by PR07
The way I think it is, and maybe one of our salary cap gurus, can better clarify (Scoot or Count); but his salary will still count in full against the cap in dead money. However, the Pacers will be able to save a little money by actually paying him less than they previously were obligated to, if they reached any sort of buy-out at all.

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:24 am
by PacersDG
...no details. Awesome.

Perhaps clearing a roster spot for a trade? Kinda came outta nowhere...why wouldn't they at least go to arbitration?

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:25 am
by greenway84
^
my thought exactly. not that im into it, but more than likely the celtic deal.

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:28 am
by fienX420
IndyStar reports it as a buy-out. After all the Larry Bird-$#!t spewed about not buying out players (right before we bought out Eddie Jones) and how it was against their principles, blah, blah, blah, somebody needs to come out and explain this immediately. I hope something in the buy-out agreement involves surrendering any right to litigation (I would assume it does) because Tinsley has a damn good case. We could have bought him out long ago and he could be on his merry way with another team and it would've all been behind us. I bet that we didn't even buy him out at much of a discount (or any) because of the threat of litigation.

Not sure what I think of the Pacers leadership's 'decision-making' and 'character' at this point... from hypocrisy to bad-mouthing a player, from tanking an assets' value to letting a good player go, from drafting Shawne Williams to drafting Tyler Hansbrough/AJ Price, from overpaying an over-rated 'stopper' to picking up another team's 'cancer' - just not sure.

I'm optimistic though. :wink:

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:34 am
by PacersDG
Damn Fien, I can tell your not happy with any of the pacers moves recently.

What other options did they have? Obviously no team wanted him...

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:37 am
by slickrickstyles
mizzoupacers wrote:Let me add a :sad: because the Pacers still have to count his sorry azz against the cap for the next two years.

But otherwise, yeah, most definitely

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

It's the last act in the most disappointing era ever in Pacers basketball. Should be all uphill from here.



I agree...I am super excited regarding this...also it opens up a roster spot to complete the Celtics trade for Marquis Daniels... :party: So glad the dark days are finally behind us....

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:38 am
by greenway84
there werent a lot of options. im just happy its over. i do hope we saved some type of money though.

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:44 am
by Miller4ever
Ding dong the wicked witch is dead!

This was a good "Caddyshack" situation. We got rid of the gopher, but...

Re: 7/22: Pacers & Tinsley Reach Resolution (he's finally gone)

Posted: Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:46 am
by greenway84
...but what. what happened after the gopher was gone? did he win a championship? lol.