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Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:27 am
by cedric76
he has the opportunity and the talent to achieve it

ur thought?

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 9:59 am
by Miller4ever
He has at least a 1 in 450 chance of getting it.

It'd be nice, but he has to show that he's improved first.

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 11:59 am
by Dunthreevy
It would be great, but I think I'll wait to see him on the court before I go making any predictions.

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 2:31 pm
by Gremz
I'd look at this question in a year's time. He has a lot of work to do.

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:54 pm
by Donerik
2010-2011 IMO is more likely.

So he moves up to 11-13 ppg this year, cuts his fouling down, plays 15-20 minutes. not most improved
I see this possible by fouling less; shooting closer to 50% and hitting 70-75% of his FT.

In 2010 He has a shot at this prize going up to 30 minuttes. See: Lamarcus Aldridge.
So at 30-35 minutes; his scoring shoots up to 19-20 ppg (he'll have to take a few more shots or shoot a much higher percentage for this to happen), his rebounding has to increase also, 10+ rpg he needs to use his 7'2" frame to rebound. Simply doubling what he does at 14 minutes 3.5 won't cut it. Work on his assists, and continue to block at a high level and I think with the jump in his per game production he could be looking at being legit, and maybe winning an award.

I fear this might be a rosy prediction but he has enough size, and pedigree to do it. If you see him playing 30+ this year, and Jeff playing 18-, and think his off season work could improve all of this, then yes 2009-2010 could be his year. I think he's 2 years out, he'll really shine after 2011 when we become a new team, if he's ever going to shine that is.

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Tue Aug 25, 2009 4:55 pm
by count55
unlikely

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 2:46 am
by MillerTime101
Players dont usually win this award their 2nd year in the league....

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 10:05 am
by cedric76
if he averages 8reb 2blk,it would be hard not to give it to him

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:27 pm
by Donerik
rebounds and blocks don't win this award, it's a media award so that means points. but if he jumped up to 18ppg, 8-9rpg, and 2blks, he'd receive serious consideration.

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 3:35 pm
by Dunthreevy
For Roy Hibbert to win MIP, he will basically need to be an All-Star C in the East. If Danny Granger or Mike Dunleavy couldn't win the award in the 07-08 season, then it's highly doubtful that Roy is going to get it any time soon.

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Wed Aug 26, 2009 9:54 pm
by Reginald Wayne
I think if he stays out of foul trouble then it is possible, unlikely, but possible. He's got to at least double his PPG and nearly triple his RPG. He'll have to stay out of foul trouble to stay in the game long enough to do so. Something like 15 and 9 with a couple of blocks would deserve some recognition and MIP votes. I highly doubt he'll win it, though. Still, worth the discussion on the Pacer forum.

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 1:13 am
by Scoot McGroot
Donerik wrote:rebounds and blocks don't win this award, it's a media award so that means points. but if he jumped up to 18ppg, 8-9rpg, and 2blks, he'd receive serious consideration.


If he "jumps" up to 18 ppg, 8-9 rpg, and 2blks, we're not only in the playoffs, but possibly hosting the 1st round series.



However, we're not going to be that good, and Hibbert's not going to post anywhere near these stats for another 2-3 seasons, if ever.

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Thu Aug 27, 2009 2:18 am
by Reginald Wayne
Scoot McGroot wrote:
If he "jumps" up to 18 ppg, 8-9 rpg, and 2blks, we're not only in the playoffs, but possibly hosting the 1st round series.



However, we're not going to be that good, and Hibbert's not going to post anywhere near these stats for another 2-3 seasons, if ever.



Agreed. I don't see Hibbert doing that well. He's more like a 12 and 6 guy.

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Fri Aug 28, 2009 3:22 am
by Indydave
That'd be awesome, but not likely-- assuming he stays out of foul trouble, I'd be very happy if he averaged over 11 PPG, 7 RPG and 2BPG. That may not necessarily be "most improved player" worthy but it would sure help the team.....

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 12:45 pm
by Curtis Lemansky
What would be the distribution of minutes at PF/C ? As an outsider my guess is:

Murphy(34)/Psycho T(14)
Hibbert (24)/Foster (24)

Solomon Jones and McRoberts would get playing time in case of injuries or foul trouble. Does it sound alright? Or can Foster see much less minutes(his rebounding rate declined sharply last season) ? Also is it possible for Tyler to get more minutes (like 23-25 mpg) ?

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 1:18 pm
by Gremz
nostradamus2005 wrote:What would be the distribution of minutes at PF/C ? As an outsider my guess is:

Murphy(34)/Psycho T(14)
Hibbert (24)/Foster (24)

Solomon Jones and McRoberts would get playing time in case of injuries or foul trouble. Does it sound alright? Or can Foster see much less minutes(his rebounding rate declined sharply last season) ? Also is it possible for Tyler to get more minutes (like 23-25 mpg) ?


Something like that. I do hope Roy can manage 24mpg, but it may drop to 20 or so if he can't drop his foul count.

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:50 pm
by Dunthreevy
Pretty promising stuff about Roy, from Tom Crean of all people...

via twitter

@TomCrean - Roy Hibbert is in AH to play today. He started his Pacer workouts at 930 with lifting,agilities and workouts and then drove a hour down here
about 3 hours ago from txt

@TomCrean - He is serious about being a great player. What a great example for our Indiana players
about 3 hours ago from txt

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 9:55 pm
by Curtis Lemansky
I guess Psycho T wont receive more than 14-16 mpg unless Murphy is injured,right?

Re: Hibbert 2009 2010 MIP

Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:07 pm
by Miller4ever
Pretty much, but I see him not playing at all in some games and in others getting up to 30 minutes. His average will probably hover around 15 MPG, though.