Granger trade check

NewWolvesOrder · Post #1 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:07 pm

would you trade Danny for Al Jefferson next summer?

Post #2 » by **Miller4ever** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:14 pm

No. We also have a thread for these ideas, and a trade checker so you can see if salaries work, etc.

Post #3 » by **count55** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:39 pm

No

regardless of what threads we may or may not have.

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #4 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:44 pm

Wouldn't even consider it.

NewWolvesOrder · Post #5 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 10:48 pm

Hm..... interesting.

glasket · Post #6 » by **glasket** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:17 pm

No way

NewWolvesOrder · Post #7 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:45 pm

what makes Granger so much better than Jefferson? not arguing, just wondering...

Post #8 » by **Miller4ever** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:09 am

Al Jefferson suffered a larger injury this last season, and he doesn't have defense. Meanwhile, Granger is the face of the franchise here. He's a more complete player, and I think most people would say that he is more valuable. He was also an all-star last year.

Post #9 » by **Gremz** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:09 am

Miller4ever wrote:Al Jefferson suffered a larger injury this last season, and he doesn't have defense. Meanwhile, Granger is the face of the franchise here. He's a more complete player, and I think most people would say that he is more valuable. He was also an all-star last year.

Pretty much this. In recent years Danny has been an incredibly good face for this franchise and has improved his game dramatically. Jefferson is a good player, but wouldn't fit the current mould of this team and their values are quite different currently.

DC2 · Post #10 » by **DC2** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:24 am

james harden wrote:what makes Granger so much better than Jefferson? not arguing, just wondering...

Personality
Loyalty
He's a hard worker
Plays defense
Can play 3 different positions if needed
Isn't undersized at his position (Jefferson is)

Post #11 » by **Gremz** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:01 am

Dunleavy17 wrote:
james harden wrote:what makes Granger so much better than Jefferson? not arguing, just wondering...

Personality
Loyalty
He's a hard worker
Plays defense
Can play 3 different positions if needed
Isn't undersized at his position (Jefferson is)

Not sure about that. He's primarily a PF stuck playing Center. But that's still irrelevant.

Al Jefferson- 6-10 265lbs
Tim Duncan- 6-11 260lbs
Dwight Howard- 6-11 265lbs
Al Horford 6-10 245lbs

laydo · Post #12 » by **laydo** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:46 am

Gremz wrote:
Miller4ever wrote:Al Jefferson suffered a larger injury this last season, and he doesn't have defense. Meanwhile, Granger is the face of the franchise here. He's a more complete player, and I think most people would say that he is more valuable. He was also an all-star last year.

Pretty much this. In recent years Danny has been an incredibly good face for this franchise and has improved his game dramatically. Jefferson is a good player, but wouldn't fit the current mould of this team and their values are quite different currently.

Agree!

Besides, Granger is a base year contract player this season. It's nearly impossible to trade him and get equal value of contracts and players in return.

Post #13 » by **PR07** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:41 am

Nope. Jefferson is a pretty darn good young frontcourt player...but I like what I've seen from Danny as a leader of a team.

Post #14 » by **count55** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:31 pm

It doesn't necessarily mean that he's so much better than Jefferson, it simply means that we don't think we gain anything by swapping Danny for Jefferson.

Post #15 » by **Scoot McGroot** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 2:43 pm

james harden wrote:would you trade Danny for Al Jefferson next summer?

Next summer we still have Murphy, Hansbrough, McRoberts, Solomon Jones, Hibbert, and Foster, and we would have Dunleavy, Rush, and Dahntay Jones at the swing positions.

You tell me where the bigger hole is.

Dunthreevy · Post #16 » by **Dunthreevy** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:27 pm

I wouldn't trade Granger for Jefferson next summer, last summer, 2 summers from now, the summer of 69, or any other summer for that matter.

8305 · Post #17 » by **8305** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:33 pm

Haven't watched Jefferson much. My understanding of his strengths, great post up game, good offensive player. Weaknesses, bad defender. Plug him into the Pacers lineup and he and Murphy would have to be on the floor together alot. That's a really defensive challenged front court and its hard to see how you could ever be very competitive that way.

Granger is potentially an above average two way player and much of what the Pacers have done personnel wise over the last year or so is geared to Granger being the main foundation piece of the team. A trade like this would negate much of what has been done.

IrishLuck31 · Post #18 » by **IrishLuck31** » Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:50 pm

I love Jefferson - I think if he stays healthy he can be a special player, especially on the offensive end. he is one of the best low-post NBA scorers, although his defense leaves something to be desired.

all that being said... I would not even consider trading him for Granger. He is the leader of our franchise, and I really believe if he stays healthy/steps up his D, and then we make the playoffs, he will enter top 10 player in the NBA category...

MillerTime101 · Post #19 » by **MillerTime101** » Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:22 pm

More of the same here, no disrespect to Jefferson but Danny Granger is in a tier above him IMO, largely due to the fact Jefferson has a hard time staying healthy these days and Dannys leadership quality.

DannyGranger · Post #20 » by **DannyGranger** » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:32 pm

if we trade Granger for Jefferson we're going to be pretty weak at the swingmen positions.