Offseason 2015 (Latest: Geno Smith Out 6-10 Weeks)

thebuzzardman · Post #21 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:02 pm

Like the draft where the Jets drafted Geno Smith, this is a bad draft for QB's.

Jets are like 3 years away from being good anyway. Draft anything BUT a QB, get a vet QB to be competent at the position (or keep playing Smith and reap the rewards of a high draft pick) and draft the QB a different year.

Of course, when Bridgewater etc were in the draft, that was the year the Jets DIDN'T draft a QB, instead blowing a pick on Geno the prior year.

Jets front office can't plan more than a year in advance.

Yankeeknickfan · Post #22 » by **Yankeeknickfan** » Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:00 pm

Why didn't they fire marty mornhinweg

JBreezeNY · Post #23 » by **JBreezeNY** » Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:42 pm

Since Amari Cooper looks officially gone thanks to Geno's lovely & meaningful game, we're probably gonna go OL.

.......Unless we go for Devante Parker which could be really interesting & something I'd be a fan of.

Post #24 » by **Thugger HBC** » Mon Dec 29, 2014 10:52 pm

I'm just happy Rex and Idshyt is gone...

Yankeeknickfan · Post #25 » by **Yankeeknickfan** » Thu Jan 1, 2015 1:25 am

Everyone hope that one of the qbs has a terrible game tomorrow so that they can fall to us

Post #26 » by **moocow007** » Thu Jan 1, 2015 2:00 am

Yankeeknickfan wrote:Why didn't they fire marty mornhinweg

I would imagine he'd be gone as soon as the new head coach is hired. Usually the head coach would want his own staff.

Post #27 » by **moocow007** » Thu Jan 1, 2015 2:10 am

JBreezeNY wrote:Since Amari Cooper looks officially gone thanks to Geno's lovely & meaningful game, we're probably gonna go OL.

.......Unless we go for Devante Parker which could be really interesting & something I'd be a fan of.

May be too early to pick him. They could trade down. The Browns have the 12th and 19th picks in the draft. Parker MAY be available at 12 (or he may not) and then you can go with someone like Todd Gurley, the RB from Georgia, at 19. Not a QB but would give the Jets offense a huge boost by adding the 2nd ranked WR and top ranked RB who many believe could be a game breaker type. Gurley's had a real off season including an ACL injury but he's the best RB prospect talent wise to come into the draft in a long time IMO. Or they can go with 2 WR's in the 1st? Devin Funchess, the 6'5" 230lb WR who also played TE at Michigan is an interesting player to say the least. Or they could go with the troubled but ultra talented CB Marcus Peters. A lot depends on the head coach they choose. Hopefully the choice is a good one.

Here's some clips...

Todd Gurley

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HZVH_cXLOs[/youtube]

Devin Funchess

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-HZEjSf6LQ[/youtube]

Marcus Peters

HEre's a great article about Peters and his elite talent at CB.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2260 ... eld-talent

JBreezeNY · Post #28 » by **JBreezeNY** » Thu Jan 1, 2015 5:34 pm

moocow007 wrote:
JBreezeNY wrote:Since Amari Cooper looks officially gone thanks to Geno's lovely & meaningful game, we're probably gonna go OL.

.......Unless we go for Devante Parker which could be really interesting & something I'd be a fan of.

May be too early to pick him. They could trade down. The Browns have the 12th and 19th picks in the draft. Parker MAY be available at 12 (or he may not) and then you can go with someone like Todd Gurley, the RB from Georgia, at 19. Not a QB but would give the Jets offense a huge boost by adding the 2nd ranked WR and top ranked RB who many believe could be a game breaker type. Gurley's had a real off season including an ACL injury but he's the best RB prospect talent wise to come into the draft in a long time IMO. Or they can go with 2 WR's in the 1st? Devin Funchess, the 6'5" 230lb WR who also played TE at Michigan is an interesting player to say the least. Or they could go with the troubled but ultra talented CB Marcus Peters. A lot depends on the head coach they choose. Hopefully the choice is a good one.

Here's some clips...

Todd Gurley

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HZVH_cXLOs[/youtube]

Devin Funchess

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-HZEjSf6LQ[/youtube]

Marcus Peters

HEre's a great article about Peters and his elite talent at CB.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2260 ... eld-talent

This is the second time you've put me on to a player, the first being Karl Towns, and Moo I think you're 2 for 2.

David Funchess I've been meaning to keep an eye on but Todd Gurley is definitely a beast. The kid has some great potential for the league. I think the we're in a great position to be in where we get to choose talent from GM's to Head Coaches to draft picks.

And I'm reading that Marcus Peters article, pretty good so far.

GnarlesOakley · Post #29 » by **GnarlesOakley** » Thu Jan 1, 2015 11:18 pm

What's with the Doug Marrone obsession? He did as good a job as possible with no NFL quality QB this year, but he's another conservative, ground and pound dinosaur.

Yankeeknickfan · Post #30 » by **Yankeeknickfan** » Thu Jan 1, 2015 11:36 pm

So much for mariota

Yankeeknickfan · Post #31 » by **Yankeeknickfan** » Fri Jan 2, 2015 1:23 am

Maybe wintston will fall to us

JBreezeNY · Post #32 » by **JBreezeNY** » Fri Jan 2, 2015 5:47 am

How y'all feel about this?

[tweet]https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/550857152294711296[/tweet]

Shemy · Post #33 » by **Shemy** » Fri Jan 2, 2015 8:14 am

at this point if cooper doesnt fall to us, then trade the pick down for multiple picks and pray to god whoever the GM is better at evaluating talent than fvkn idzik

Barcs · Post #34 » by **Barcs** » Fri Jan 2, 2015 10:35 pm

Firing Rex is a huge mistake. If he ends up on the Bills I'm going to be sick. It's just like watching our hall of fame CB play on the patriots. It would be a disaster. The Bills have more talent than the Jets and Rex would take them places if they fix their QB issues.

The problem with the Jets is Woody Johnson. He's making decisions because of rich fan demands, rather than for football reasons. Giving up on a GM after just 2 years because of a silly billboard, and then throwing Rex under the bus with him as well. Rex isn't the quarterback of the Jets. He isn't the one turning the ball over and letting go hall of famers that made his system work. Idzik is way more to blame for last year than Rex. But everything Idzik has done has been putting us in position for 2015. He was trying to build sustained longterm success. That isn't something you do overnight without a good QB.

Now, we are going to have #6 draft pick plus something like 50 million to spend in cap space. They should have given it one more year. Idzik had a bad year and a lot of it was bad luck with injuries, but yeah he could have resigned Cromartie and done more. He isn't blameless, but they should have given him a year with a high draft pick and 50 mil to spend and if he blows that, then fire him. Yeah he sat on 20 mill, but it carries over to this year which pretty much doubles it, yeah he should have at least attempted to talk to Cromartie instead of relying on rookies and 2nd year CBs to carry the team.

Now, it's a given that whichever coach/GM takes over will be praised because the Jets team isn't that bad. It goes beyond the 4-12 record. 7 losses were within one score. 10 games were against winning teams, 6 of those were playoff teams. It was a rough year with a tough schedule and a bad draft full of injuries. Green Bay should have been a win if not for a poor ref call letting a player not on the field call time out (which is against the rules). Chicago should have been a win, if they called the fumble correctly on the field. We almost beat many of the best offensive teams in the league (Packers, Patriots twice, Broncos was close till the end, Steelers). Basically what I'm saying, is that a few good calls, a few less turnovers, and a few lucky bounces and we're right there with the Chargers, Chiefs, BIlls and the other 9-7 near playoff teams. The Jets are similar to the Bills, though. They need a consistent QB to make them a good team. Until they get that, it will be the same constant cycle of coaches and GMs taking the blame for not striking gold in the draft or breaking the bank. You need more than a running game and good defense in today's NFL.

zilby · Post #35 » by **zilby** » Sat Jan 3, 2015 6:41 pm

Doug Marrone is supposedly interviewing for the job today :nonono:

Post #36 » by **moocow007** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 4:35 am

Woody Johnson is basically James Dolan. I'm trying to figure out still how someone with such a big head can be so stupid.

Shemy · Post #37 » by **Shemy** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 7:07 pm

Yea seriously woody Johnson is awful

Let the football people do their jobs ****

Pharmcat · Post #38 » by **Pharmcat** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 11:00 pm

Barcs wrote:Firing Rex is a huge mistake. If he ends up on the Bills I'm going to be sick. It's just like watching our hall of fame CB play on the patriots. It would be a disaster. The Bills have more talent than the Jets and Rex would take them places if they fix their QB issues.

The problem with the Jets is Woody Johnson. He's making decisions because of rich fan demands, rather than for football reasons. Giving up on a GM after just 2 years because of a silly billboard, and then throwing Rex under the bus with him as well. Rex isn't the quarterback of the Jets. He isn't the one turning the ball over and letting go hall of famers that made his system work. Idzik is way more to blame for last year than Rex. But everything Idzik has done has been putting us in position for 2015. He was trying to build sustained longterm success. That isn't something you do overnight without a good QB.

Now, we are going to have #6 draft pick plus something like 50 million to spend in cap space. They should have given it one more year. Idzik had a bad year and a lot of it was bad luck with injuries, but yeah he could have resigned Cromartie and done more. He isn't blameless, but they should have given him a year with a high draft pick and 50 mil to spend and if he blows that, then fire him. Yeah he sat on 20 mill, but it carries over to this year which pretty much doubles it, yeah he should have at least attempted to talk to Cromartie instead of relying on rookies and 2nd year CBs to carry the team.

Now, it's a given that whichever coach/GM takes over will be praised because the Jets team isn't that bad. It goes beyond the 4-12 record. 7 losses were within one score. 10 games were against winning teams, 6 of those were playoff teams. It was a rough year with a tough schedule and a bad draft full of injuries. Green Bay should have been a win if not for a poor ref call letting a player not on the field call time out (which is against the rules). Chicago should have been a win, if they called the fumble correctly on the field. We almost beat many of the best offensive teams in the league (Packers, Patriots twice, Broncos was close till the end, Steelers). Basically what I'm saying, is that a few good calls, a few less turnovers, and a few lucky bounces and we're right there with the Chargers, Chiefs, BIlls and the other 9-7 near playoff teams. The Jets are similar to the Bills, though. They need a consistent QB to make them a good team. Until they get that, it will be the same constant cycle of coaches and GMs taking the blame for not striking gold in the draft or breaking the bank. You need more than a running game and good defense in today's NFL.

idzik was in way over his head . he is a cap guy not a talent evaluator/gm

2 of his signings turned out to be flops before season started: that goodwin rb who got arrested, the CB who didnt even bother to show up to the games

the draft with the best WR ever he misses on all of them despite having 12 total picks

he totally missed the CB position considering Ryan needs strong CB to run his schemes

Post #39 » by **j4remi** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 11:01 pm

I was hoping for Harbaugh or a miraculous Cowher move or something major...Marrone would be a serious disappointment but I can't really hate on the job he did in Buffalo, so that's something I guess.

Post #40 » by **j4remi** » Sun Jan 4, 2015 11:07 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
idzik was in way over his head . he is a cap guy not a talent evaluator/gm

2 of his signings turned out to be flops before season started: that goodwin rb who got arrested, the CB who didnt even bother to show up to the games

the draft with the best WR ever he misses on all of them despite having 12 total picks

he totally missed the CB position considering Ryan needs strong CB to run his schemes

Yeah it's nuts, took three WR's and whiffed on 'em all. The MacDougal pick might still work out but I don't have much faith at all. The Harvin trade looked good to me until I heard about the cap implications. He couldn't sign Rodgers-Cromartie, let Cromartie walk and never took a second look at Revis...imagine our defense with Revis in place, it would have made a big difference. Having an overload of Strong Safety's and no true FS was just dumb.

Then you get the Giacomini head scratcher and take a look at the state of our O-line...this dude really made some odd decisions. Even drafting Pryor was a head scratcher and I like the kid and his potential but when you have the many needs we did...it's a weird pick to throw at a non-need.