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Post#1 » by Manhattan Project » Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:07 pm

Another week another story line, this is starting to become the trend for the Jets. However this week the main story will not be about Favre making his first start in New York but rather Brady being hurt for the rest of the season. Aside from that there are many other things to look out for in this game.

1- Revis vs Moss
We all love Revis, this will be his biggest test this season. He played Moss well last year, however Moss knows he needs to step it up now.
2- Can we Run?
Last week we ran for over a 100 yards, however we cant run against the Pats. We have a new revamped line, so that question will come out.
3- Pressure
In case you were living under a rock, Cassel will be making his first start since high school. Will we be able to get pressure on him or will he be the new Tom Brady?
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Post#2 » by Flaming Mo » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:33 am

J-E-T-S! JETS! JETS! JETS!

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Post#3 » by ZigZag » Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:49 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:Another week another story line, this is starting to become the trend for the Jets. However this week the main story will not be about Favre making his first start in New York but rather Brady being hurt for the rest of the season. Aside from that there are many other things to look out for in this game.

1- Revis vs Moss
We all love Revis, this will be his biggest test this season. He played Moss well last year, however Moss knows he needs to step it up now.
2- Can we Run?
Last week we ran for over a 100 yards, however we cant run against the Pats. We have a new revamped line, so that question will come out.
3- Pressure
In case you were living under a rock, Cassel will be making his first start since high school. Will we be able to get pressure on him or will he be the new Tom Brady?


sorry boys would of been here last week but had to work....

1. good match up Moss is a vet so revis is gonna need some help over the top. I like our matchup against wes walker...we got miller or lowery to throw at em...and pace is not to bad at covering tight ends coming off the outside but i worry about the otherside since barton is playing middle now.

2. yes i too worry about the run. NE is big n physical. I think it all starts with Faneca. He has to be the one to set the tone n send a message to that NE defensive line.

3. Pressure i think we will have no problem. but we must protect against the run. we must play contain just in case they try to use baffoonery with the play action. I expect them to run more. We stop the run we stop the pats. We dont want cassell to get comfortable or instill in confidence in him.
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Re: Pats @ Jets 

Post#4 » by WizBiz » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:05 pm

Crap, the Bills just won. Now we really need this win to keep pace, even though it's still very early in the season.
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Post#5 » by ZigZag » Sun Sep 14, 2008 8:36 pm

dammit...mangini really needs to stop relying on kickers.
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Post#6 » by ZigZag » Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:54 pm

Very fustrating lost today... the offense still quite not there yet...but i think it cuz of the too conservative offense. i think we were too predictable. Also saw some drops...etc... i just dont think we're clicking yet.

Love the D..the score isn't telling of the defense. the offense has to get it going. Especially when special teams can't get good field positioning.
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Post#7 » by TKF » Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:02 am

ZigZag wrote:Very fustrating lost today... the offense still quite not there yet...but i think it cuz of the too conservative offense. i think we were too predictable. Also saw some drops...etc... i just dont think we're clicking yet.

Love the D..the score isn't telling of the defense. the offense has to get it going. Especially when special teams can't get good field positioning.


I understand that the offense is not quite there yet, but our defense has to be able to stop the dink and dunk, the inside handoffs and the quick passes outside that seem to go for 10 yards a pop, the pats ran a HS offense on us and won the game.. That should never happen, that clown cassell never threw the ball downfield and when he did, he missed, he basically handed the ball off and threw the ball in the flat for 3 yards and they chewed us up.. How do you explain that? I say the same old jets...
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Post#8 » by Flaming Mo » Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:36 am

Overall the defense was solid except for the short passes. But then again, you can't blame them if the Pats have excellent field position on every freaking drive. Graham gave them the ball four times in Jets territory... FOUR TIMES! Are you kidding me?!? Our starting field position never got beyond the 25 yard line.

Our kicking game is a disgrace. It started with the missed FG that already set the tone for the entire game. And then came Graham with his terrible, atrocious punts.

I'm beyond upset right now because the Pats without Brady are nothing special. The media and everyone can kid themselves about how tough the Pats are and how good their defense is. Fact is they were playing a team that is just beginning to click. They couldn't run the ball against us, they couldn't get any pass rush early, Moss got handled by Revis... and all for none because our team didn't came in with the right mindset and because our coaching staff laid a huge egg. The play calling was miserable. Just miserable. How in the world do we let Ellis Hobbs and Deltha O'Neal keep our WRs in check?!? All o that has to do with timing and that is not there yet. Plain and simple. But that wasn't the problem yesterday, it was the lack of fire, the lack of passion and of pure will to win. And that, my friends, is inexcusable...
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Post#9 » by TKF » Mon Sep 15, 2008 5:27 pm

Flaming Mo wrote:Overall the defense was solid except for the short passes. But then again, you can't blame them if the Pats have excellent field position on every freaking drive. Graham gave them the ball four times in Jets territory... FOUR TIMES! Are you kidding me?!? Our starting field position never got beyond the 25 yard line.

Our kicking game is a disgrace. It started with the missed FG that already set the tone for the entire game. And then came Graham with his terrible, atrocious punts.

I'm beyond upset right now because the Pats without Brady are nothing special. The media and everyone can kid themselves about how tough the Pats are and how good their defense is. Fact is they were playing a team that is just beginning to click. They couldn't run the ball against us, they couldn't get any pass rush early, Moss got handled by Revis... and all for none because our team didn't came in with the right mindset and because our coaching staff laid a huge egg. The play calling was miserable. Just miserable. How in the world do we let Ellis Hobbs and Deltha O'Neal keep our WRs in check?!? All o that has to do with timing and that is not there yet. Plain and simple. But that wasn't the problem yesterday, it was the lack of fire, the lack of passion and of pure will to win. And that, my friends, is inexcusable...


I fell you mo. they didn't beat us on talent, that is for sure, we were just outcoached. But answer this. How many times over the past few years, have you seen us on 3rd and 4 or 4th and 3 and not be able to stop the other team when we have to? I can tell you rarely if ever. 4th and 3 and the past do a simple inside handoff, the RB closes his eyes, runs forward and stumbles and falls for 8 yards... I absolutely hate that.. and it seems to happen to the jets, regardless of personell. we could have lined up Lawrence Taylor, Ray lewis and Mike singletary, along with Reggie white, Richard dent, Bruce smith and Warren sapp and we still would get run up the gut on for 7 garbage yards... I don't know what it is mo, but we let this one slip away, despite great work in the secondary... Our kicking game is a joke, we have to address that right now, get rid of graham, get a real punter and tell nugent if he can't stay healthy and when healthy hit his FG's, then he is also out!
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Re: Pats @ Jets 

Post#10 » by Flaming Mo » Mon Sep 15, 2008 8:17 pm

TKF wrote:
Flaming Mo wrote:Overall the defense was solid except for the short passes. But then again, you can't blame them if the Pats have excellent field position on every freaking drive. Graham gave them the ball four times in Jets territory... FOUR TIMES! Are you kidding me?!? Our starting field position never got beyond the 25 yard line.

Our kicking game is a disgrace. It started with the missed FG that already set the tone for the entire game. And then came Graham with his terrible, atrocious punts.

I'm beyond upset right now because the Pats without Brady are nothing special. The media and everyone can kid themselves about how tough the Pats are and how good their defense is. Fact is they were playing a team that is just beginning to click. They couldn't run the ball against us, they couldn't get any pass rush early, Moss got handled by Revis... and all for none because our team didn't came in with the right mindset and because our coaching staff laid a huge egg. The play calling was miserable. Just miserable. How in the world do we let Ellis Hobbs and Deltha O'Neal keep our WRs in check?!? All o that has to do with timing and that is not there yet. Plain and simple. But that wasn't the problem yesterday, it was the lack of fire, the lack of passion and of pure will to win. And that, my friends, is inexcusable...


I fell you mo. they didn't beat us on talent, that is for sure, we were just outcoached. But answer this. How many times over the past few years, have you seen us on 3rd and 4 or 4th and 3 and not be able to stop the other team when we have to? I can tell you rarely if ever. 4th and 3 and the past do a simple inside handoff, the RB closes his eyes, runs forward and stumbles and falls for 8 yards... I absolutely hate that.. and it seems to happen to the jets, regardless of personell. we could have lined up Lawrence Taylor, Ray lewis and Mike singletary, along with Reggie white, Richard dent, Bruce smith and Warren sapp and we still would get run up the gut on for 7 garbage yards... I don't know what it is mo, but we let this one slip away, despite great work in the secondary... Our kicking game is a joke, we have to address that right now, get rid of graham, get a real punter and tell nugent if he can't stay healthy and when healthy hit his FG's, then he is also out!


Yeah, our run D has been terrible in recent years. But this season in the first two games, I'm actually really happy with what I see. Jenkins in my opinion is just a monster, unblockable, tough, huge and he's mean. He's everything we hoped for in the trade and he's the perfect NT for our system. Pace is another huge addition. Yesterday we would have had outstanding stats in the rush defense if not for the yards at the end by Lamont Jordan when our guys got tired (because our offense couldn't do anything). Even with the end of the fourth we allowed something like 3+ yards per carry which is very good. Overall we rank 6th in the league after the first two games against the run. Things are looking better...

I'm actually not that upset with our team yesterday. We have the right mix of players, we have finally found guys for our system - now it's time to develop chemistry and an attitude. I mean we have to be confident, mean, aggressive. Our defense clearly has the potential to be special. I mean Rhodes, Harris, Jenkins, Pace, BT so far, Revis... all studs. Let's just be patient, hopefully Mangini and his crew make something happen soon. Now it's on them, they got all the tools...
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Post#11 » by Jose7 » Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:23 pm

Special teams is costing us games. Offense has been erratic. Defense has been a big strength especially the run D>
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Post#12 » by Manhattan Project » Wed Sep 17, 2008 3:01 am

Take the shackles off, that would be a good start.
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Post#13 » by NYSPORTSNUCCA » Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:06 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:Take the shackles off, that would be a good start.


I started it last week when I said we don't have a killer instinct. I don't think the coaches yet recieved the memo that we got Brett Favre. I mean.., that series on the goal line where we tried to punch in it in with a rush ALL three downs was just painful to watch. However.., in the 4th., ge grew some balls and just lobbed it in on the goal line for a quick six points. :dontknow: No bootleg., nothing.

No professional NFL team should have punting like we do. Mangini..., have to be told., he's coaching for his job. I'm tired of the consevative bull crap. This loss hurt badly. Another loss before the bye week and we are essentially out of the playoffs. Yes.., I'm going that far.
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Post#14 » by ZigZag » Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:32 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:Take the shackles off, that would be a good start.

^^^EXACTLY... Im glad they were pointing these things out on the daily news,post etc..

another thing Coles was attrocious.... He can't concentrate on catching the ball because he still has this man crush on penny...
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