WELCOME TO THE NEW YORK JETS: Mr. Mark Sanchez

Post #2 » by **Rich Rane** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:52 pm

I'm happy, even though we did give up a 1st and 2nd.

Jose7 · Post #3 » by **Jose7** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:53 pm

What you mean give up a first? We moved down in the first and essentially gave up a 2nd, a mediocre DE, a solid safety and a prospect QB.

Post #4 » by **Rich Rane** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:57 pm

Jose7© wrote:What you mean give up a first? We moved down in the first and essentially gave up a 2nd, a mediocre DE, a solid safety and a prospect QB.

Well, when you put it that way...

I don't know. Kind of sucks to be done today haha. Again, I'm happy.

Post #5 » by **Manhattan Project** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 8:57 pm

I don't understand the people complaining about this trade. Ratliff threw two passes for 70 yards and now people have an erection for him. Sanchez is clearly better to him. We give up Elam, we got Leonhard now. We gave up Coleman, we got Douglas now. To jump from 17 to 5 and only giving up a second rounder is great value.

I wanted Sanchez and now we got him.

Post #6 » by **Rich Rane** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:01 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:I don't understand the people complaing about this trade. Ratliff through two passes for 70 yards. Sanchez is clearly better to him. We give up Elam, we got Leonhard now. We gave up Coleman, we got Douglas now. To jump from 17 to 5 and only giving up a second rounder is great value.

I wanted Sanchez and now we got him.

Oh man I forgot we acquired Marques Douglas.

Jose7 · Post #7 » by **Jose7** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:05 pm

Douglas is top 5 or 3 in terms of TFL for DLinemen in the last 5 years.

TdoubleE · Post #8 » by **TdoubleE** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:19 pm

Great trade no matter how you look at it. Any Jets fans booing this deal just dont understand football or the draft.

Post #9 » by **Manhattan Project** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:23 pm

TdoubleE wrote:Great trade no matter how you look at it. Any Jets fans booing this deal just dont understand football or the draft.

Most of them either wanted Crabtree or were attached so hard to the DHB bandwagon. Sanchez had a terrific season, shredded Penn State in the Rose bowl game. The only concern now with Sanchez is that we don't have that many weapons as receivers. However this will be a growing year for the offense and it's perfect because we still have a great running game. Cotchery and Keller are going to have a real nice productive year.

Since we don't have a second round pick we will miss out on guys like Nicks, Harvin, Tate etc. However in the third round I think we will target a WR to create a bond for him.

TdoubleE · Post #10 » by **TdoubleE** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:27 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:
TdoubleE wrote:Great trade no matter how you look at it. Any Jets fans booing this deal just dont understand football or the draft.

Most of them either wanted Crabtree or were attached so hard to the DHB bandwagon. Sanchez had a terrific season, shredded Penn State in the Rose bowl game. The only concern now with Sanchez is that we don't have that many weapons as receivers. However this will be a growing year for the offense and it's perfect because we still have a great running game. Cotchery and Keller are going to have a real nice productive year.

Since we don't have a second round pick we will miss out on guys like Nicks, Harvin, Tate etc. However in the third round I think we will target a WR to create a bond for him.

I think there will be some WRs in teh 3rd that are just as good as the 2nd round WRs (Iglesias, Murphy, Knox), but I think they may go in a different direction like RB.

Post #11 » by **Rich Rane** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:31 pm

TdoubleE wrote:Great trade no matter how you look at it. Any Jets fans booing this deal just dont understand football or the draft.

My only beef with this is that we don't have another pick to gather one of the elite WRs of the draft for Sanchez to throw to. I felt a dependable QB was a much bigger need than WR and I think we made the right decision.

Post #12 » by **Manhattan Project** » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:38 pm

Sanchez redshirted his first season with the Trojans, then threw just seven passes as a freshman in 2006. As a sophomore last year, he played in eight games(starting three for an injured John David Booty) and threw for 695 yards while completing 60.5% of his passes for seven scores and five interceptions. Sanchez took over as a junior, and had a phenomenal season. He was an All Pac 10 1st teamer after completing 65.8% of his passes for 3,207 yards and 34 touchdowns, with just ten interceptions.

Strengths

Sanchez has an impressive array of skills for a pocket passer. He has decent size and the toughness to sit in the pocket, along with the arm you see you the traditional pocket passer. He can make all the throws and is an efficient and accurate passer all over the field. What separates Sanchez from most guys that sit in the pocket is his athleticism and mobility. He will not win any races, but he has excellent feet and has the agility to elude the rush and can pick up some yardage on the ground. He is also very tough and will remain in the pocket as long as possible, and will try to pick up the extra yard when he tucks the ball away. Sanchez is also very intelligent and picked up USC’s pro style offense quickly.

Weaknesses

Sanchez is a work in progress, as he only has one year of starting experience. There is no substitue for game experience, and he is lacking a bit. That lack of experience has led to some weak spots in his game. Sanchez can get emotional, and get too pumped up at times, which can make his throws sail to his receivers. His toughness can also work against him at times. There have been too many occasions where he will put his shoulder down to pick up extra yards when running the football. He will need to protect himself more in the NFL and learn to get down or out of bounds. There may be some potential durability issues with Sanchez, as he dislocated his kneecap before the start of his junior season and had a broken thumb the year before.

Future

Sanchez’s blend of skills give him the potential to carry the franchise quarterback label. He can pick apart a defense from the pocket or get out and make things happen on the move. He will need time to develop his skills, but he will be in a battle with Matthew Stafford until draft day for the right to be the top QB selected. Stafford is on the odds on favorite for that honor, but Sanchez is still a first round lock.. While Stafford chose not to compete in passing drills at the combine, Sanchez did. He didn’t set the workout on fire, but he performed well and impressed some teams with his competitiveness. With Stafford the likely top QB, Sanchez’s stock will depend on where Stafford goes. If Stafford falls, Sanchez falls. If Stafford goes at #1, Sanchez could go as high as #4. Jay Cutler and his situation with the Broncos could also cause Sanchez to slide a bit. If one of the teams considering Sanchez in the mid first trades for Cutler, then Sanchez slides a bit more. Wherever he goes, Sanchez has all the tools and the make up to be a star in the NFL, and he will make some team very happy they pulled the trigger.

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ZigZag · Post #13 » by **ZigZag** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 12:23 am

Ratliff was gonna be iller than the other Brette...but like I said Im glad to have SANSHEZZZZZ!

LAKESHOW · Post #14 » by **LAKESHOW** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 2:25 am

some insider info. sanchez was pushed by the coaching staff to take the job, due to his athletic ability which was off the charts. sarkesian said he was the best athlete out of all of our QBs. but carroll doesnt roll that way. once a guy is in, he doesnt switch up, he stays committed. john david booty had the job. and from an experience stand point, it looked like a good decision. but this is why when sanchez broke out this year, he was steadfast and strong and wanted to come out. he felt he was ready. hes getting his degree. and pete carroll made an attempt to change his mind and stay. so he doesnt have a ton of film. but believe this, this dude has been ridin the bench with tons of ability and skill. he just had to wait his turn. if he comes out next year, i have no doubt that he trumps every other quarterback out there and goes #1. he extends his experience. he plays behind a fantastic oline. his receivers are off the chart. he takes the heisman. but he said no, he said he was ready and wanted to leave.

so picking him up now at 5, is actually a great deal. because i flat out believe next year, his price and stock goes up. and unless the jets pick #1, they werent gonna get him.

Jose7 · Post #15 » by **Jose7** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:13 am

LAKESHOW wrote:some insider info. sanchez was pushed by the coaching staff to take the job, due to his athletic ability which was off the charts. sarkesian said he was the best athlete out of all of our QBs. but carroll doesnt roll that way. once a guy is in, he doesnt switch up, he stays committed. john david booty had the job. and from an experience stand point, it looked like a good decision. but this is why when sanchez broke out this year, he was steadfast and strong and wanted to come out. he felt he was ready. hes getting his degree. and pete carroll made an attempt to change his mind and stay. so he doesnt have a ton of film. but believe this, this dude has been ridin the bench with tons of ability and skill. he just had to wait his turn. if he comes out next year, i have no doubt that he trumps every other quarterback out there and goes #1. he extends his experience. he plays behind a fantastic oline. his receivers are off the chart. he takes the heisman. but he said no, he said he was ready and wanted to leave.

so picking him up now at 5, is actually a great deal. because i flat out believe next year, his price and stock goes up. and unless the jets pick #1, they werent gonna get him.

Great post..

TKF · Post #16 » by **TKF** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:14 am

Manhattan Project wrote:
TdoubleE wrote:Great trade no matter how you look at it. Any Jets fans booing this deal just dont understand football or the draft.

Most of them either wanted Crabtree or were attached so hard to the DHB bandwagon. Sanchez had a terrific season, shredded Penn State in the Rose bowl game. The only concern now with Sanchez is that we don't have that many weapons as receivers. However this will be a growing year for the offense and it's perfect because we still have a great running game. Cotchery and Keller are going to have a real nice productive year.

Since we don't have a second round pick we will miss out on guys like Nicks, Harvin, Tate etc. However in the third round I think we will target a WR to create a bond for him.

good trade, and I like the fact that they also called clemens in to talk to him about the trade and drafting of shanchez... Very classy...

Let the sanchez era begin..

Paladin55 · Post #17 » by **Paladin55** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:13 pm

If he is as good as the Jets think he will be, he is going to vying for the position of most popular and beloved athlete in the NYC sporting world at some point in the next 2-5 years. Have we had another high profile NYC area football player who was a Latino?

Advertising agencies and sponsors are going to be falling all over this kid. Good looking, articulate, confident, talented... .

Hopefully we have our franchise QB for the next 10+ years.

I feel a bit sorry for Clemens, but that is how the game goes, and the Jets obviously felt he was not their QB of the future.

nyknicks09 · Post #18 » by **nyknicks09** » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:09 pm

Spell his last name right guys. Mark "The Jet" Sanchez. This guy doesn't sound like a rookie at all. Go to NFL network and watch the video and listen to what he has to say. He even called Clemens to make sure they were in the same page. I like his attitude and I hope he gets a Matt Ryan or Joe Flacco type of rookie season if he starts. I hope he gets the start from week 1 and work from there.

treiz · Post #19 » by **treiz** » Sun May 3, 2009 10:24 pm

Man, I love this pick. And I believe this was a steal.

Post #20 » by **j4remi** » Thu May 7, 2009 3:45 am

I had extremely high hopes for Ratliff and after Gholston, I didn't want another high pick that would cost tons of money unproven...That said, I'll ride with the pick. I like what I've heard about his ability and his character (especially prepping with the rookies before anyone gave him a problem). We didn't kill ourselves as far as picks, I did like two of the players dealt, but it wasn't a death deal like I'd expected. Hopefully he works out, I'll ride with him for now.