2010/2011 Season Thread

[HMFFL]

Vegas: 2010/2011 Regular Season Wins

Oakland Raiders
Over 6
Under 6

[jeffhardyfan52]

ill say 7 wins

[fishtheman04]

8 wins

[dula14]

Over for sure. The Silver and Black is on the way back! I'm calling it: a winning season at 9-7.

[St.Nick]

Christ almighty....was that so difficult!?

[Yi Jian Lian]

some dude made a niners thread and he just got directed to the NFL forum.

you should know better.

[FNQ]

I'm forever on the Raider bandwagon, but calling Chris Johnson anything but trash is a mistake, and Campbell has looked below average.

Just put the take down and slowly step away...

Teams refused - REFUSED - to throw on AwesomeWah's side of the field. By comparison, anyone would look bad. CJ was the CB target on nearly every passing play, and the other option was Stanford Routt, who actually is as bad as you think CJ is.

CJ on the other hand is a capable #2, but cannot stay in man coverage forever. He's the guy getting blamed for our D-line last season getting minimal push, and because AwesomeWah was busy blanketing whoever else was in his coverage. This year with AwesomeWah taking both sides of the field and our D-line looking much more improved, CJ's play will improve. He's certainly not trash, thats an incomplete conclusion to draw. It blames CJ for the faults of the D-line and D-coordinator.

[FNQ]

So I'm a little confused about these threads. Where do I go to tell 9er fans that the 9ers suck and we'll have a better record, yet they'll probably still make the POs?

[Sleepy51]

Feel free to tell 9ers fans they suck in any damn thread you please. And vise versa.

[Twinkie defense]

Can we make one thread for just all of Nick's posts?

[xRapHeadx]

I'm forever on the Raider bandwagon, but calling Chris Johnson anything but trash is a mistake, and Campbell has looked below average.

Just put the take down and slowly step away...

Teams refused - REFUSED - to throw on AwesomeWah's side of the field. By comparison, anyone would look bad. CJ was the CB target on nearly every passing play, and the other option was Stanford Routt, who actually is as bad as you think CJ is.

CJ on the other hand is a capable #2, but cannot stay in man coverage forever. He's the guy getting blamed for our D-line last season getting minimal push, and because AwesomeWah was busy blanketing whoever else was in his coverage. This year with AwesomeWah taking both sides of the field and our D-line looking much more improved, CJ's play will improve. He's certainly not trash, thats an incomplete conclusion to draw. It blames CJ for the faults of the D-line and D-coordinator.

Teams threw on us for **** and giggles. We were last in pass attempts against our D, and first in rush attempts against, and in those limited pass opportunities, Chris Johnson proved to be trash.

CJ can tackle...that's it.It's more his fault than scheme. Nnamdi went out vs the Eagles, and Stan Routt did well in his place for that short time. Stan is not fit to cover the slot. He can't tackle and isn't physical. Outside, yes he can be a better CB than CJ.

Our pass rush was decent at times, but Seymour is just lazy. He gave minimal effort over the course of the season. Shaugnessy physically wasn't ready to start, and our best pass rusher was moved to LB on the fly and became our best LB.We should be better with Wimbley and Houston, but Chris Johnson is meant to be a zone/slot guy, not a starter.

[FNQ]

Thats bullsh*t and you know it... the 'limited pass opps' were because our run D was so porous and teams were usually cruising by the 2nd half. In those same 'limited pass opps' - most of them were directed at CJ because teams just completely ignored AwesomeWah's side of the field. CJ proved the year previous that if you generate a pass rush, he can not only be a good cover corner, but a good pass jumper.

The guy struggled way more in zone than in man... mostly because no CBs on the team trust the safeties, and they shouldn't either.. but calling CJ trash because he was routinely left 1 on 1 with a #2 WR and a QB that has all day to throw + tunnel vision? No chance.

[FNQ]

Also from the game, Campbell suffered a stinger and should be back for the opener, ditto Mike Bush and his busted thumb.

[xRapHeadx]

Thats bullsh*t and you know it... the 'limited pass opps' were because our run D was so porous and teams were usually cruising by the 2nd half. In those same 'limited pass opps' - most of them were directed at CJ because teams just completely ignored AwesomeWah's side of the field. CJ proved the year previous that if you generate a pass rush, he can not only be a good cover corner, but a good pass jumper.

The guy struggled way more in zone than in man... mostly because no CBs on the team trust the safeties, and they shouldn't either.. but calling CJ trash because he was routinely left 1 on 1 with a #2 WR and a QB that has all day to throw + tunnel vision? No chance.

Teams threw on us for **** and giggles.

That's exactly what I said. We sucked vs the run so our pass D looked better and CJ looked terrible. He had one fluke year and we overreacted and gave him a deal. Typical knee jerk Al decision.

We had more sacks last year than the year before. CJ had a fluke year.

Our CBs do not play zone,at all. I saw maybe 3 zone principle coverages and they were all vs the slot. 2 vs Texans and 1 vs Jets. The only guy who plays zone is the deep safety(Huff and Eugene)

He's trash because he can't cover, can't make plays, and sucks in general.

[and1GS]

Who's gonna start at RB? Bush or McFadden?

Bush is much better up the middle but McFadden...was a high first round pick. I don't think they have any choice but on a good team Bush would be a solid start, he's more useful from what I've seen.

[Twinkie defense]

Obviously Bush. But McFadden will get some play.

I just hope Bush is back and relatively healthy for the opener.

[and1GS]

How's it obviously Bush? Haven't been following football lately, did he make a surge up the depth chart? He's not the type of guy that can rattle off homerun plays but he's a solid back.

[SFWarriors62]

It's obviously Bush because it was neck and neck before the McFadden injury and Bush has been getting all the reps with the first team, and he's run quite well.

[Bay_Areas_Finest]

How's it obviously Bush? Haven't been following football lately, did he make a surge up the depth chart? He's not the type of guy that can rattle off homerun plays but he's a solid back.

It's obviously Bush because McFadden is a steaming pile of garbage, while Bush has proven capable of putting up good rush numbers when given the opportunity.

I don't think McFadden has even broken a tackle yet in the NFL. What a douchenugget.


EDIT: And what's up with the Chris Johnson hate? He's a top-tier CB, but he's still adaquete in coverage and he's a solid tackler. Is Stanford Routt really a better option? Dude is one of the worst cover corners in the league, probably.

As for the team on a whole; I really think our front 7 has the potential to be awesome. Wimbley was an amazing addition, and we're all pretty confident that McClain can (and will) be a stud. Scott was tremendous last year, so we'll see. Seymour was....okay, but I'm interested to see him strictly as a DT this season. I'm also pretty high on Houston. Thought he was a great pick. We will see.

Our O-Line still leaves a lot to be desired, but our QB play will be key. Campbell better produce or I want my boy Gradkowski in there launching bombs to Murphy all day.

EDIT II: Atleast we can safely say we have the best P/K tandem in football.

[and1GS]

Chris Johnson is not a top tier CB. He's a good CB2 and nothing more. If he's a top tier CB then Fred Smoot must have been the GOAT during his Washington years.