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Post#1 » by bwgood77 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 4:02 pm

Who you hoping for? I was hoping for Tyler Warren but I see most mocks have him going around 10-12. Then Colston Loveland going in the teens. I have seen Matthew Golden if we can't get a top 2 WR, and he is a speedster who ran a 4.29 40 and could run the deep routes, but he is only 5'11. Other possibilities are DT with Poona Ford gone or possibly if BPA is a guard, a guard. But typically it seems you can get a good guard later.

Popper seems to think there is a possibility to go any of 7 different positions in the first round, but his mocks have mostly had TE's, and then I think one with a WR, maybe one with a DT and possibly one with a RB. I think Najee Harris is only signed for a year and they'd like to pair him with an explosive back, so could go RB, especially if the top TEs and WRs are gone and Omario Hampton is there.

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Chargers final draft thoughts: Will best player available lead them to offensive playmaker?

April 24, 2025Updated 8:38 am CDT

We made it. It is draft day. The first round begins Thursday night at 5 p.m. PT.

Here are some final thoughts on the Los Angeles Chargers’ plans and options.

1. This Chargers draft is more wide open than any I have covered in my six years on the beat. That is particularly the case in the first round. The Chargers hold the No. 22 pick. I can make a strong case for seven different positions at this spot.

They could certainly take a tight end if Penn State’s Tyler Warren or Michigan’s Colston Loveland falls. They could take a receiver, with possibilities including Arizona’s Tetairoa McMillan, Ohio State’s Emeka Egbuka or Texas’ Matthew Golden. They could take a defensive tackle, such as Oregon’s Derrick Harmon, Ole Miss’ Walter Nolen or Michigan’s Kenneth Grant. They could take an interior offensive lineman like Alabama’s Tyler Booker or North Dakota State’s Grey Zabel. I think running back is on the table, specifically with North Carolina’s Omarion Hampton. The Chargers do not have a viable No. 2 option behind free-agent signing Najee Harris.

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2
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Omarion
Hampton
North Carolina
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The Chargers need a fourth edge rusher and a long-term plan for life after Khalil Mack and Bud Dupree. Marshall’s Mike Green, Georgia’s Mykel Williams or Boston College’s Donovan Ezeiruaku would not surprise me. Even cornerback is a potential outcome. Coach Jim Harbaugh and defensive coordinator Jesse Minter could reunite with Michigan’s Will Johnson. Texas’ Jahdae Barron is the type of versatile defensive back — with snaps in college at corner, safety, nickel and dime — that would be very attractive in Minter’s defensive scheme.

So much depends on two unknowns: how the Chargers have these players ranked and how the board falls come Thursday night. General manager Joe Hortiz created flexibility this offseason by investing across all position groups through re-signings and free agent additions. That is a very good thing for team-building. It is a bad thing for trying to predict the future.

The Chargers own the No. 22 pick and 10 picks total in the NFL Draft. Will they add a playmaker or look to beef up the trenches?

2. As I look through the depth chart, I keep coming back to one missing ingredient: offensive playmaking. They have one excellent, ascending piece in receiver Ladd McConkey. But who else among the skill position players can be a defined matchup advantage on a week-to-week basis? The Chargers do not have that type of player in the running back room. Harris is tough and durable but more of a doubles hitter than a home-run threat. They do not have that player in the tight end room between Will Dissly and Tyler Conklin. They do not have that player behind McConkey at receiver.

Hortiz said at his pre-draft news conference that the Chargers are in position to “let the board come” to them and “take the best player.” I can absolutely see this approach leading the Chargers to an offensive playmaker — Loveland, McMillan, Egbuka, Hampton or even Golden.

It is a bit more difficult to project Golden as a fit with McConkey, who operates most often and effectively out of the slot. Golden’s size — 5-foot-11, 191 pounds — could be a factor in whether he can play on the outside in the NFL. Still, Golden made plenty of plays in college outside the numbers. He has good long speed, and more importantly, he has the body control and ball skills to be an impact player in contested catch situations.

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Golden
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Dynamic route runner who can become a go-to target

3. McMillan is one of the most fascinating players in this draft, and it feels like his range of outcomes is pretty vast. I love his tape. I think his skills will translate to the next level — specifically his ability to use his 6-foot-4 frame to shield defenders and make strong catches at full extension away from his body. The issue is his long speed. There are, rather peculiarly, a lot of conflicting reports about what McMillan actually ran in his 40 time. I have heard it was closer to 4.60 and potentially as high as 4.62. That testing number would be a non-starter for some teams, and it could mean McMillan is available at 22 for the Chargers.

It is absolutely a data point to consider, but I saw enough on film to be comfortable with the Chargers taking McMillan at 22. I think he will be able to win in the NFL because of his size and ball skills. I think he will be a mismatch advantage. And it is easy to envision him fitting alongside McConkey and being a three-level target for quarterback Justin Herbert.

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McMillan
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Basketball, volleyball backgrounds show in his size and catch-point skills

4. There is a ton of smoke surrounding the Chargers and Grant, which is understandable. Grant played for Harbaugh and Minter at Michigan, including during the national championship run in 2023. He is massive and long and extremely athletic for his size. The Chargers are lacking on the interior of their defensive line after losing Poona Ford and Morgan Fox in free agency. Grant would come in with familiarity in the scheme and immediately improve the Chargers run defense — or the run wall, as Harbaugh likes to put it.

I just have a hard time wrapping my mind around Grant being the best player available for the Chargers at 22. Based on the film, I like both Harmon and Nolen better as prospects. Grant is stout and disruptive as a run defender, but he just does not make enough of an impact as a pass rusher. And it feels risky to use the No. 22 pick on a player who might be limited to first and second downs. Harmon led all FBS defensive tackles in pressures last season with 55. Nolen’s pass rush flashes are elite and worth a first-round pick.

Harbaugh and Minter are intimately familiar with Grant. Perhaps they see more pass rush upside than what is evident on film.

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Kenneth
Grant
Michigan
HT6′4″ WT330 YR3JR AGE21.45
Dominant run presence but can grow into starter with three-down upside

5. If the Chargers miss out on Warren or Loveland in the first round, there are some really intriguing options on Day 2. LSU’s Mason Taylor is very well-rounded prospect with size, athleticism, polished blocking and reliable hands. He probably does not make it to pick 55 in the second round, so I think the Chargers would have to trade up to be in the mix for him. The two more realistic names I would throw out: Miami’s Elijah Arroyo and Oregon’s Terrance Ferguson.

The Chargers really need a field-stretching element in this room that can attack down the seams. Arroyo and Ferguson both have that. Arroyo is raw, but the athleticism jumps off the film, and he has an impressive breakaway gear in the final phase of vertical routes. Ferguson has excellent ball skills and hand-eye coordination. He is an explosive yards-after-the-catch threat on crossing routes, and he can attack vertically on seams, benders and wheel routes with his 83rd percentile 40-yard dash and 90th percentile 10-yard split. Both Arroyo and Ferguson have great size at over 6-foot-5.

6. As I have alluded to, I think the Chargers must come away from this draft with a running back. They drafted Kimani Vidal in the sixth round last year, but when he got a chance to play as a rookie, he was not nearly developed enough in pass protection. There needs to be some competition behind Harris for the No. 2 spot. What I believe the Chargers need is an explosive option to complement Harris’ more bruising skill set. Some guys I like in this mold: Ohio State’s TreVeyon Henderson, Tennessee’s Dylan Sampson, UCF’s RJ Harvey, Virginia Tech’s Bhayshul Tuten, Texas’ Jaydon Blue and SMU’s Brashard Smith.

RB
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TreVeyon
Henderson
Ohio State
HT5′10″ WT202 YR4SR AGE22.46
Versatile skill set will be immediate upgrade to NFL backfield


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Post#2 » by SkyBill40 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 5:06 pm

I haven't paid too much attention to the draft prospects this year, but we do have some holes to fill. Still can't believe they released Bosa but then again, availability is always the best ability.
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Post#3 » by Revived » Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:44 pm

Colston Loveland would be my favorite pick. I would even consider trading up with Miami for him if the asking price is reasonable. I’ve lived in Michigan before and still have friends in the Ann Arbor area who own few small pizzerias and such and they say the kid is super nice, friendly and humble. Doesn’t give off a douche vibe that many college football stars do.

But if Loveland isn’t available then, I would hope we go with either pass rusher (replace Bosa) or interior D linemen or a center for offense. Gray Zabel is the only center that would be worth a 1st rd pick on in this draft.

Assuming both Hunter and Tet are off the board by the time the chargers pick, I don’t think any WR is worth drafting at #22. We’re better off waiting till 2nd or 3rd round for it. Someone like Jayden Higgins would be nice in day 2. I feel the same way about RB position. This is a super deep draft for RBs and good starter RBs can be found later in the draft.

I’m not a Golden fan at all. Too high a drop rate…and after QJ experience, would prefer not to deal with that.

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Post#4 » by madmaxmedia » Thu Apr 24, 2025 8:55 pm

I think Chargers are going to do exactly what Hortiz has said they've prepared to do- let the draft board come to them and pick among the BPA's. Invariably there are a couple of guys that unexpectedly slide, and by filling most of our holes with solid but not spectacular (or expensive) FA signings, we can draft one of those guys.

All I am expecting is to have a guy we probably didn't expect would be available. That guy may be one of the positions people are mocking us to draft, but maybe not. The further down we go, I think the more we draft based on need to make sure certain holes are addressed.
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Post#5 » by SkyBill40 » Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:01 pm

It wouldn't necessarily be a bad play to draft BPA: If teams want a player bad enough to want to move up to the Chargers slot to take them, well, that just bodes well for us unless that player to be taken is just too good a fit for needs.
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Post#6 » by SkyBill40 » Fri Apr 25, 2025 2:29 am

Clocks ticking. Who's it going to be? Please God, for all that is holy, let it NOT be Shedeur Sanders.

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Post#7 » by bwgood77 » Sun Apr 27, 2025 4:19 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:I think Chargers are going to do exactly what Hortiz has said they've prepared to do- let the draft board come to them and pick among the BPA's. Invariably there are a couple of guys that unexpectedly slide, and by filling most of our holes with solid but not spectacular (or expensive) FA signings, we can draft one of those guys.

All I am expecting is to have a guy we probably didn't expect would be available. That guy may be one of the positions people are mocking us to draft, but maybe not. The further down we go, I think the more we draft based on need to make sure certain holes are addressed.


I'm very happy with the draft. So many weapons for Herbert. I was expecting Miles Frazier in the 5th, but a speedster to stretch the field is great. Herbert didn't have a lot of time last year and was sacked a lot, but that was partially because no one could get open. So much so they played man coverage because the only guy that could beat it was Ladd, who they could double.

But now with so many weapons, Herbert won't have to hold onto it as long. Then with the explosive back we have, I'm excited. Also got another exciting one as an UDFA.
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madmaxmedia wrote:I think Chargers are going to do exactly what Hortiz has said they've prepared to do- let the draft board come to them and pick among the BPA's. Invariably there are a couple of guys that unexpectedly slide, and by filling most of our holes with solid but not spectacular (or expensive) FA signings, we can draft one of those guys.

All I am expecting is to have a guy we probably didn't expect would be available. That guy may be one of the positions people are mocking us to draft, but maybe not. The further down we go, I think the more we draft based on need to make sure certain holes are addressed.


I'm very happy with the draft. So many weapons for Herbert. I was expecting Miles Frazier in the 5th, but a speedster to stretch the field is great. Herbert didn't have a lot of time last year and was sacked a lot, but that was partially because no one could get open. So much so they played man coverage because the only guy that could beat it was Ladd, who they could double.

But now with so many weapons, Herbert won't have to hold onto it as long. Then with the explosive back we have, I'm excited. Also got another exciting one as an UDFA.


Yeah I was very pleased too. Obviously every team has their own draft board and we don't know how we rated other guys we didn't pick. The only thing I felt confident in was that we would prioritize BPA like Hortiz said. So whether I agree or disagree on any particular choice, I believe all our picks were at least close to BPA. I didn't get too attached to anybody going into the draft, a lot of people were mocking/hoping for Colston Loveland but he didn't come close to reaching us anyway.

I really like the Hampton pick, he seems absolutely NFL ready and I think will get more carries than Najee next season (although he will get a fair share too.) Harris was also really interesting in that the Chargers actually considered trading up to get him, then got him anyway. He also looks pretty NFL ready to me as far as wide receivers go.

Keandre Labert Smith is really interesting, 4.37 with pretty good NFL body and long arms. You'd think a guy like that picked in the 5th would be a raw burner/project type, but his highlight video looks pretty good and shows a more complete game IMO. Obviously highlight vids are what they are, but I'm really interested to see where he ends up on the depth chart.

Raheim Sanders is an interesting UDFA, really fast for his size and I guess dropped due to injury concerns.
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Post#9 » by madmaxmedia » Sun Apr 27, 2025 7:04 pm

SkyBill40 wrote:It wouldn't necessarily be a bad play to draft BPA: If teams want a player bad enough to want to move up to the Chargers slot to take them, well, that just bodes well for us unless that player to be taken is just too good a fit for needs.


So I guess we possibly had a trade in place with Philly to move down, but then Hampton unexpectedly dropped to us. We took a lot of time for our pick, my guess was we were trying to predict whether Hampton could have dropped down to Philly's pick. I think the answer would have been no, and if we really wanted him then that was the right call.

I for one was really happy with the pick. Everyone talked about the RB depth, but I think Jeanty and then Hampton were both a class above the rest. This team needs strong RB's if we're actually going to have a strong power rushing attack LOL, let's not fart around and end up drafting the next CJ Spiller.
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madmaxmedia wrote:I think Chargers are going to do exactly what Hortiz has said they've prepared to do- let the draft board come to them and pick among the BPA's. Invariably there are a couple of guys that unexpectedly slide, and by filling most of our holes with solid but not spectacular (or expensive) FA signings, we can draft one of those guys.

All I am expecting is to have a guy we probably didn't expect would be available. That guy may be one of the positions people are mocking us to draft, but maybe not. The further down we go, I think the more we draft based on need to make sure certain holes are addressed.


I'm very happy with the draft. So many weapons for Herbert. I was expecting Miles Frazier in the 5th, but a speedster to stretch the field is great. Herbert didn't have a lot of time last year and was sacked a lot, but that was partially because no one could get open. So much so they played man coverage because the only guy that could beat it was Ladd, who they could double.

But now with so many weapons, Herbert won't have to hold onto it as long. Then with the explosive back we have, I'm excited. Also got another exciting one as an UDFA.


Yeah I was very pleased too. Obviously every team has their own draft board and we don't know how we rated other guys we didn't pick. The only thing I felt confident in was that we would prioritize BPA like Hortiz said. So whether I agree or disagree on any particular choice, I believe all our picks were at least close to BPA. I didn't get too attached to anybody going into the draft, a lot of people were mocking/hoping for Colston Loveland but he didn't come close to reaching us anyway.

I really like the Hampton pick, he seems absolutely NFL ready and I think will get more carries than Najee next season (although he will get a fair share too.) Harris was also really interesting in that the Chargers actually considered trading up to get him, then got him anyway. He also looks pretty NFL ready to me as far as wide receivers go.

Keandre Labert Smith is really interesting, 4.37 with pretty good NFL body and long arms. You'd think a guy like that picked in the 5th would be a raw burner/project type, but his highlight video looks pretty good and shows a more complete game IMO. Obviously highlight vids are what they are, but I'm really interested to see where he ends up on the depth chart.

Raheim Sanders is an interesting UDFA, really fast for his size and I guess dropped due to injury concerns.


I haven't been this excited for a RB in a long while. Apparently he is extremely strong. Ekeler was too. I think he will be like a bigger even more explosive, harder to tackle Ekeler with higher end speed...the Ekeler from 2-3 years ago when he was playing like one of the best backs in the league.

It's hard to know about the receivers, but we do know he has one of the best QBs throwing to them, and I certainly trust Hortiz and Harbaugh's evaluations.

I mean, I don't watch much college football, and certainly not enough to have seen nearly as much of these guys as them, and they know what type of players they want. Although I wanted a guard earlier, our line should still be much improved, with Alt in his second year and the signing of Becton. I liked Dobbins, but our running backs are significantly upgraded. They were also great taking CBs in the 5th round last year, and I've heard some good things about that safety.

I'm a little curious about Asante Samuel Jr. I know we let him go, and I saw Minnesota wanted to sign him, but I guess he's still struggling with that injury. I do wonder how much he will command. I really did like him. He made some great plays. I wonder if he ends up not commanding as much as expected, if we and him would have any interest in a deal, even if only a one year deal.
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Post#11 » by madmaxmedia » Sun Apr 27, 2025 8:47 pm

bwgood77 wrote:I haven't been this excited for a RB in a long while. Apparently he is extremely strong. Ekeler was too. I think he will be like a bigger even more explosive, harder to tackle Ekeler with higher end speed...the Ekeler from 2-3 years ago when he was playing like one of the best backs in the league.

It's hard to know about the receivers, but we do know he has one of the best QBs throwing to them, and I certainly trust Hortiz and Harbaugh's evaluations.

I mean, I don't watch much college football, and certainly not enough to have seen nearly as much of these guys as them, and they know what type of players they want. Although I wanted a guard earlier, our line should still be much improved, with Alt in his second year and the signing of Becton. I liked Dobbins, but our running backs are significantly upgraded. They were also great taking CBs in the 5th round last year, and I've heard some good things about that safety.

I'm a little curious about Asante Samuel Jr. I know we let him go, and I saw Minnesota wanted to sign him, but I guess he's still struggling with that injury. I do wonder how much he will command. I really did like him. He made some great plays. I wonder if he ends up not commanding as much as expected, if we and him would have any interest in a deal, even if only a one year deal.


Yeah, one thing is for sure about our FO- they absolutely knocked it out of the park with most of our picks last year, and most importantly the first two. Like both Joe and Ladd ended up exactly who they thought they were (probably a year ahead of schedule too.) So at the very least Hortiz wanting Harris enough to also almost trade up for him too bodes well.

No news about Asante, so who knows maybe there is a chance. Like a 1 year prove-it deal may benefit both sides.

I think we would've prioritized Dobbins at least somewhat higher had he not gotten hurt, which really threw off our run game and offense for a few weeks.

Here is Walter Football's grade on the KLS pick: https://walterfootball.com/nfldraftgrades5.php

Los Angeles Chargers: KeAndre Lambert-Smith, WR, Auburn – A+ Grade
KeAndre Lambert-Smith is yet another great value in the fifth round. I had him going later on Day 2! Lambert-Smith is a very quick receiver and a great route runner. I’m shocked he lasted this long, but the Chargers won’t complain, as he could help them right away at their problematic receiver position.

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