2025 OFFSEASON

[CrimsonCrew]

In terms of our off-season, specifically Deebo, yeah he had regressed or was hurt so much it amounted to the same thing, and yeah he was the teacher’s pet who was held to a lower standard re: blocking and effort, and yeah, he was too easily locked up. All that is true and I have felt that way for quite a while.

BUT…


Opposing players/teams/coaches feared him, a lot. He was like having a wildcard, he could just go off and make good defense look incidental, when healthy. His usage confused teams, especially with CMC on the same field. We might not be much worse without him, but I think we are a lot more vanilla/standard too.

Sure. I don't want to diminish the impact of Deebo's loss. As said, he's a unique player, and with the ball in his hands and some room to run, he's still about as dangerous as they come. But he's not nearly what he used to be, and the consistency just wasn't there at all. For all the big plays, his poor play could also undermine drives. Given where Purdy excels (vision, anticipation, rhythm), I think some of the other receivers on the roster are a better fit. But we'll see. Unlikely any of them put up a season that can match Deebo's best.

[CrimsonCrew]

Lenoir arrested for interfering with police. It's a misdemeanor, so shouldn't be a HUGE deal, but could potentially result in a suspension. Hopefully they dismiss it.

[Harry Palmer]

Lenoir arrested for interfering with police. It's a misdemeanor, so shouldn't be a HUGE deal, but could potentially result in a suspension. Hopefully they dismiss it.

The reported events are weird.

[vvoland]

Lenoir arrested for interfering with police. It's a misdemeanor, so shouldn't be a HUGE deal, but could potentially result in a suspension. Hopefully they dismiss it.

The reported events are weird.

I always wanted to play keepaway from a cop. Guess D-mo let his intrusive thoughts win

[Jikkle]

Lenoir arrested for interfering with police. It's a misdemeanor, so shouldn't be a HUGE deal, but could potentially result in a suspension. Hopefully they dismiss it.

Hard to see him getting suspended over a misdemeanor but stranger things have happened but I'd expect he'd get fined at most.

NFL really only cracks down on cases that make them look bad and nobody is talking about Lenoir's arrest at all so I doubt the league will be motivated to do anything because all that does is bring attention to the event again that's basically been forgotten already and sets up a potential squabble with the NFLPA.

[Pattersonca65]

Lenoir arrested for interfering with police. It's a misdemeanor, so shouldn't be a HUGE deal, but could potentially result in a suspension. Hopefully they dismiss it.

Hard to see him getting suspended over a misdemeanor but stranger things have happened but I'd expect he'd get fined at most.

NFL really only cracks down on cases that make them look bad and nobody is talking about Lenoir's arrest at all so I doubt the league will be motivated to do anything because all that does is bring attention to the event again that's basically been forgotten already and sets up a potential squabble with the NFLPA.

The NFL can and has suspended players over Misdemeanor DUIs but it is only a game. The DA might not even charge him

[RIPskaterdude]

It's almost hilarious at this point

Read on Twitter

[CrimsonCrew]

Ugh. Just what we need. I'm not at all against extending Jennings, but probably not for what he's looking for. Still, I'd have the conversation.

He has a fair bit of leverage on this one. He's our #1 receiver right now, possibly until Aiyuk returns and maybe even after that if Aiyuk plays the way he did to start last year. We have to expect that Robinson is suspended to start the season. It would be awfully rough to have Pearsall, Cowing, and maybe Watkins as our top three receivers to start the season. Those first three games include two division games. Got to come away from the first three with a 2-1 record at worst in my view.

[CrimsonCrew]

To add, we'll also be relying on our offense early on to support a defense that will likely struggle out of the gate with a bunch of new and young players in prominent roles.

[RIPskaterdude]

This is what happens when an organization overpays their players. Jennings just got a new deal last year, but then you bring out the trucks to pay Purdy and Kittle, after paying BA, CMC, Williams, etc.

There's blood in the water and instead of trading unhappy players, now everyone wants a raise

[wco81]

Questionable that Jennings will get a lot more than what the 49ers are already paying him from other teams.

[CrimsonCrew]

Questionable that Jennings will get a lot more than what the 49ers are already paying him from other teams.

Yeah, he had a good season last year, but he was still 28th in the league in yards, 35th in TDs, 31st in plays of 20+ yards, and trailed the TE on his team. I'm not sure how much another team would pay him, or give up to trade for him. Figured his best bet was to have another strong season and then test the market, but can't blame him for capitalizing on the Niners' jam at WR to start the year.

I liked the Robinson signing, but given Aiyuk's injury, it's really weird that they brought in a guy who was likely to miss the first three games. We're awfully thin at the position without those three guys (as pretty much any team would be if they lost three of their top four receivers), but I also don't think it makes a ton of sense to sign one of the other vets as a three-game band-aid.

In a perfect world, we would extend Jennings to a reasonable contract. But I just don't know if reasonable contracts exist at the WR position these days.

[wco81]

Garrett Wilson just got 4/$130 million.

Their QBs are Justin Fields and Tyrod Taylor. They are unlikely to contend for awhile.

[Jikkle]

If he's willing to sign a reasonable deal I'm fully onboard with trading him and if a team offers a respectable trade package I'd do that as well.

If neither of those materializes if I was the team I'd tell him your either playing for us or you play for nobody in 2025. He has one good not great season in his career, he's not a superstar, and the 9ers need to start playing harder ball with guys. Yeah it's one thing when you deal with Nick Bosa coming off a monster year and winning DPOY but it's another thing to let a middle of the pack receiver like Jennings try to make a power play on you.

Now I don't blame Jennings and I'm not trying to diss him but I'd have a little more compassion if he was coming off his rookie contract and not in a 2 year deal he signed last season. He took more money than he deserved at the time based on his numbers with shorter years in the hopes that he could parley this current 2 year deal for a bigger pay day so just play out your final year, hit FA, and get your bag like the plan was the entire time.

Let's not forget that he's in a contract year with only one good season on his resume so if he really wants that big deal in FA he really has no choice but to show up and ball out this year whether he likes it or not.

[arich35]

If he's willing to sign a reasonable deal I'm fully onboard with trading him and if a team offers a respectable trade package I'd do that as well.

If neither of those materializes if I was the team I'd tell him your either playing for us or you play for nobody in 2025. He has one good not great season in his career, he's not a superstar, and the 9ers need to start playing harder ball with guys. Yeah it's one thing when you deal with Nick Bosa coming off a monster year and winning DPOY but it's another thing to let a middle of the pack receiver like Jennings try to make a power play on you.

Now I don't blame Jennings and I'm not trying to diss him but I'd have a little more compassion if he was coming off his rookie contract and not in a 2 year deal he signed last season. He took more money than he deserved at the time based on his numbers with shorter years in the hopes that he could parley this current 2 year deal for a bigger pay day so just play out your final year, hit FA, and get your bag like the plan was the entire time.

Let's not forget that he's in a contract year with only one good season on his resume so if he really wants that big deal in FA he really has no choice but to show up and ball out this year whether he likes it or not.

More and more players are doing this, I think they realize their careers are short so if he can get another 2 year deal and make an extra $10M and still get another contract afterwards, why would he not? He has really nothing to lose unless teams will shy away from him because of this but I doubt it.

Jennings is older in football terms, 28 so I am not shocked he is trying to get as much money as possible now. If we can give him another signing bonus and bump up his pay and we get to keep him for two years instead of one I would be on board but I don't think he will settle for less than maybe $15M a year, based on other contracts I think he fits in the $12-14M a year category

[CrimsonCrew]

Yeah, Jennings also has $625K in per game bonuses, apparently, so it would be really tough for him to hold out. Further, he's due a hefty dead money payment in 2026, so restructuring could be a little messy.

[Harry Palmer]

Christ, Niners put Persall on the PUP list.

[arich35]

Christ, Niners put Persall on the PUP list.

I think they can take him off whenever at this point

[Jikkle]

Christ, Niners put Persall on the PUP list.

I think they can take him off whenever at this point

True, which is why there shouldn't be some full on panic about it yet but it's still concerning that he's on the list in the first place given that Shanahan said it was a minor hamstring issue and he expected him to be a full go at the start of training camp.