2025 49ers Season

[arich35]

It is tough being a fan of this team sometimes. The injuries we have had are just brutal

We really need all our offensive weapons back because they will have to carry the team a little more going forward. I trust Saleh to game plan to help with the loss of Bosa and hopefully closer to the trade deadline there is a guy we can trade for that can help a bit

[clyde21]

Curse of Levis strikes again

[wco81]

Bosa turns 28 a month from now.

He's making $20.4 million this season and is due to make $42, $52 and $42.8 million for 2026, 2027 and 2028 seasons when he will be 31.

I don't know how much guaranteed money is left on his extension but it's unlikely the 49ers will pay all those amounts, unless he can prove he's just as productive.

His sack numbers have been on the decline, 15.5 in 2021 and 18.5 in 2022, 10.5 in 2024 and 9 last season. I don't know his QB hits and pass rush win rate in the last couple of seasons.

But unlikely the 49ers would give him another big extension in his late 20s or around age 30 after two ACLs and already declining production.

Don't want to make the same mistake the Steelers did giving Watt an extension this past July as he's about to turn 30.

It's good that they drafted Williams this season. They likely won't get to draft an edge rusher in the top 5 again for awhile, unless they go for a full rebuild.

Unless he shows a late career resurgence after coming back next season, 49ers should be planning to replace him with younger players. It may take several attempts before they find another double-digit sack edge rusher. Hopefully Williams will get there.

[Harry Palmer]

Sort of had a feeling this was coming. The report…Schefter, I think?…that it was the ACL but ‘just’ short of a complete tear seemed weird, and also not sure how much better the prognosis would be if it’s down to a thread. I am a rational person but starting to wonder if karma or curses or w/e might be the least improbable explanation.

[RIPskaterdude]

So who is available as a FA? Can't imagine anyone will be traded yet but maybe if teams like the Titans, Texans, Dolphins, Jets keep losing

[thesack12]

So who is available as a FA? Can't imagine anyone will be traded yet but maybe if teams like the Titans, Texans, Dolphins, Jets keep losing

At this point, the free agent pool is just going to yield bodies. Aren't going to find much substance going down that road. Perhaps someone that can provide a little production will get released at some point, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

I've seen some speculation that they could pursue a trade for Bradley Chubb.

Miami is looking like they could enter teardown mode soon. Apparently Chubb has a couple years left on his contract, but no guaranteed money left owed to him. So on the surface, SF could probably make it work cap wise and have flexibility with him after this season. That said, if he indeed doesn't have any guaranteed money left he will surely want a new contract, which would make things tricky for SF's cap next season and beyond. We also absolutely don't want to see another holdout situation going into next season. In which case, if the 9ers invest significant draft capital into trading for Chubb, they will likely want some type of assurance he'll stick around. So I'm not sure if him not having guranteed money left isn't actually a detriment. Now if the draft capital to get him isn't all that expensive, then you would be less concerned about his contract and could be content with just a 1/2 season rental. The problem with that is, if the trade cost is low then a lot more suitors will enter the equation which makes it tougher for SF to land him.

I've also seen Kayvon Thibodeaux floated. Giants are a dumpster fire and also have Brian Burns and Abdul Carter in house, so they could dangle Thibodeaux on the trade block. If that happens there will be a lot of interest around the league which will of course make the potential trade cost high. He's also going into the last year of his contract next season, so of course he's going to want an extension this offseason. Which would require a big contract extension added to the cap of whichever team trades for him. You also have all the potential holdout drama with him also.

Whichever route they go, I just don't know how SF can keep handing out massive contracts. At some point the available cap dollars are going to dry up. In relation to that point, do we even want them to send out more primo picks (1st, 2nd rounders) in trade for another vet? I guess a lot of that debate that will depend on what the team dynamic is looking like at the trade deadline. If they are sitting at like 7-1 and the team health has taken a turn for the better, they would probably be more apt to make a go for it now type of trade.

[thesack12]

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The hits just keep coming.

"A chance" to play huh? I'll believe he's closer to a IR stint and missing at least 4 games, than he is to playing this Sunday.

[clyde21]

We might have to look at DE again in the top rounds in the next draft unfortunately, Bosa might be cooked honestly (this is like his 3rd acl?)

[Jikkle]

We might have to look at DE again in the top rounds in the next draft unfortunately, Bosa might be cooked honestly (this is like his 3rd acl?)

I think this is a different leg than his 2020 ACL tear and this one was apparently about the best-case scenarios when he comes to tears so I tend to believe he should bounce back fine. It also helps that it happened early in the season so he might be up to speed before next season starts.

Still I don't think going pass rush again would be the worst idea in the world since we do need an exit plan from Bosa sooner rather than later even if he does make a full recovery. Not like having too many pass rushers isn't a good problem to have especiallyy when Saleh uses 4 DEs in his Nascar package.

Would also be nice to have a legitimate rotation as well. I've always been critical in the amount of snaps Bosa takes when he should be take fewer so he's actually fresh when we need him in critical moments in the game.

[Jikkle]

So who is available as a FA? Can't imagine anyone will be traded yet but maybe if teams like the Titans, Texans, Dolphins, Jets keep losing

At this point, the free agent pool is just going to yield bodies. Aren't going to find much substance going down that road. Perhaps someone that can provide a little production will get released at some point, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

I've seen some speculation that they could pursue a trade for Bradley Chubb.

Miami is looking like they could enter teardown mode soon. Apparently Chubb has a couple years left on his contract, but no guaranteed money left owed to him. So on the surface, SF could probably make it work cap wise and have flexibility with him after this season. That said, if he indeed doesn't have any guaranteed money left he will surely want a new contract, which would make things tricky for SF's cap next season and beyond. We also absolutely don't want to see another holdout situation going into next season. In which case, if the 9ers invest significant draft capital into trading for Chubb, they will likely want some type of assurance he'll stick around. So I'm not sure if him not having guranteed money left isn't actually a detriment. Now if the draft capital to get him isn't all that expensive, then you would be less concerned about his contract and could be content with just a 1/2 season rental. The problem with that is, if the trade cost is low then a lot more suitors will enter the equation which makes it tougher for SF to land him.

I've also seen Kayvon Thibodeaux floated. Giants are a dumpster fire and also have Brian Burns and Abdul Carter in house, so they could dangle Thibodeaux on the trade block. If that happens there will be a lot of interest around the league which will of course make the potential trade cost high. He's also going into the last year of his contract next season, so of course he's going to want an extension this offseason. Which would require a big contract extension added to the cap of whichever team trades for him. You also have all the potential holdout drama with him also.

Whichever route they go, I just don't know how SF can keep handing out massive contracts. At some point the available cap dollars are going to dry up. In relation to that point, do we even want them to send out more primo picks (1st, 2nd rounders) in trade for another vet? I guess a lot of that debate that will depend on what the team dynamic is looking like at the trade deadline. If they are sitting at like 7-1 and the team health has taken a turn for the better, they would probably be more apt to make a go for it now type of trade.

Chubb probably is the most realistic option for them as he shouldn't cost a boatload because I feel any team trading him will probably view him as a rental with maybe the option to extend him if he pops off.

But I don't see any moves made till they see where they are at mid-October. If the team is doing well they probably make a Charles Omenihu like move for a 6th or a 5th for a guy that would bolster depth and can contribute. If things are starting to come apart they might make a more aggressive move to put themselves over the edge.

[Pattersonca65]

We might have to look at DE again in the top rounds in the next draft unfortunately, Bosa might be cooked honestly (this is like his 3rd acl?)

I think this is a different leg than his 2020 ACL tear and this one was apparently about the best-case scenarios when he comes to tears so I tend to believe he should bounce back fine. It also helps that it happened early in the season so he might be up to speed before next season starts.

Still I don't think going pass rush again would be the worst idea in the world since we do need an exit plan from Bosa sooner rather than later even if he does make a full recovery. Not like having too many pass rushers isn't a good problem to have especiallyy when Saleh uses 4 DEs in his Nascar package.

Would also be nice to have a legitimate rotation as well. I've always been critical in the amount of snaps Bosa takes when he should be take fewer so he's actually fresh when we need him in critical moments in the game.

You are correct, He injured the other leg before

[49er4life1979]

Bosa turns 28 a month from now.

He's making $20.4 million this season and is due to make $42, $52 and $42.8 million for 2026, 2027 and 2028 seasons when he will be 31.

I don't know how much guaranteed money is left on his extension but it's unlikely the 49ers will pay all those amounts, unless he can prove he's just as productive.

His sack numbers have been on the decline, 15.5 in 2021 and 18.5 in 2022, 10.5 in 2024 and 9 last season. I don't know his QB hits and pass rush win rate in the last couple of seasons.

But unlikely the 49ers would give him another big extension in his late 20s or around age 30 after two ACLs and already declining production.

Don't want to make the same mistake the Steelers did giving Watt an extension this past July as he's about to turn 30.

It's good that they drafted Williams this season. They likely won't get to draft an edge rusher in the top 5 again for awhile, unless they go for a full rebuild.

Unless he shows a late career resurgence after coming back next season, 49ers should be planning to replace him with younger players. It may take several attempts before they find another double-digit sack edge rusher. Hopefully Williams will get there.

He has no guaranteed $ left after this season I believe. Such a shame indeed. I think we need to look for another pass rusher in the draft next year to rotate at least. Saleh will definitely need to be creative now with his dialing up of pressures.

[CrimsonCrew]

Really frustrated by this one. I was actually starting to believe we could be legit contenders this year. Easy schedule, we've been winning games hampered, but the offense could be leaps and bounds better in a month and the D has been getting valuable experience/development. A lot of that is still true with Bosa out, but it's hard to see the D playing dominant ball without him. We'll see. The Lions lost Hutchinson and still went on a run last year, but I don't know that our offense can hold a candle to theirs unless the interior OL makes a major improvement. If Aiyuk and Kittle can come back at full strength, it's at least possible.

[wco81]

Bosa turns 28 a month from now.

He's making $20.4 million this season and is due to make $42, $52 and $42.8 million for 2026, 2027 and 2028 seasons when he will be 31.

I don't know how much guaranteed money is left on his extension but it's unlikely the 49ers will pay all those amounts, unless he can prove he's just as productive.

His sack numbers have been on the decline, 15.5 in 2021 and 18.5 in 2022, 10.5 in 2024 and 9 last season. I don't know his QB hits and pass rush win rate in the last couple of seasons.

But unlikely the 49ers would give him another big extension in his late 20s or around age 30 after two ACLs and already declining production.

Don't want to make the same mistake the Steelers did giving Watt an extension this past July as he's about to turn 30.

It's good that they drafted Williams this season. They likely won't get to draft an edge rusher in the top 5 again for awhile, unless they go for a full rebuild.

Unless he shows a late career resurgence after coming back next season, 49ers should be planning to replace him with younger players. It may take several attempts before they find another double-digit sack edge rusher. Hopefully Williams will get there.

He has no guaranteed $ left after this season I believe. Such a shame indeed. I think we need to look for another pass rusher in the draft next year to rotate at least. Saleh will definitely need to be creative now with his dialing up of pressures.

If they can avoid paying him $42 million next year, they should pursue it. Like have him restructure to drive the cap number down. Maybe give him a season or two to see if he can still get over double-digit sacks again.

Yeah there are no guarantees of drafting another DPOY edge rusher again, even in the top 5. For instance, Chase Young was drafted around the same spot as Bosa in his draft spot and he hasn't panned out. Hutchinson was drafted #2 and if he gets double-digit sacks this season coming back from ACL in this his 4th season, he's also going to command at least $35 million a year on his extension.

If they can restructure so that his cap hits are $25 million or less for a couple of years, that would be ideal.

[wco81]

Really frustrated by this one. I was actually starting to believe we could be legit contenders this year. Easy schedule, we've been winning games hampered, but the offense could be leaps and bounds better in a month and the D has been getting valuable experience/development. A lot of that is still true with Bosa out, but it's hard to see the D playing dominant ball without him. We'll see. The Lions lost Hutchinson and still went on a run last year, but I don't know that our offense can hold a candle to theirs unless the interior OL makes a major improvement. If Aiyuk and Kittle can come back at full strength, it's at least possible.

That Lions defense was poor by the end of the season and into the playoffs IIRC. Commanders put up 45 points at Detroit with a rookie QB, one and done for the #2 seed were they?

[CrimsonCrew]

Really frustrated by this one. I was actually starting to believe we could be legit contenders this year. Easy schedule, we've been winning games hampered, but the offense could be leaps and bounds better in a month and the D has been getting valuable experience/development. A lot of that is still true with Bosa out, but it's hard to see the D playing dominant ball without him. We'll see. The Lions lost Hutchinson and still went on a run last year, but I don't know that our offense can hold a candle to theirs unless the interior OL makes a major improvement. If Aiyuk and Kittle can come back at full strength, it's at least possible.

That Lions defense was poor by the end of the season and into the playoffs IIRC. Commanders put up 45 points at Detroit with a rookie QB, one and done for the #2 seed were they?

Yeah, I was thinking two years ago when they should have beaten us in the NFCCG. Didn't realize Hutchinson had basically lost two full seasons.

[clyde21]

per PFF we have the 9th ranked OL heading into W4, Trent, Brendel and McKivitz all rated 70+, Puni and Colby in the mid 50s

I am assuming the Colby/Puni are only gonna get better from here hopefully, Puni having a bit of a slump but maybe it's because of the injury, Colby is a 7th round rookie so the fact that he's giving us any snaps is a win I guess.

[arich35]

Pearsall not practicing because of his knee. On that 4th down catch he did come up limping a bit, hopefully he isn't out this week

Jennings still not practicing either

[CrimsonCrew]

per PFF we have the 9th ranked OL heading into W4, Trent, Brendel and McKivitz all rated 70+, Puni and Colby in the mid 50s

I am assuming the Colby/Puni are only gonna get better from here hopefully, Puni having a bit of a slump but maybe it's because of the injury, Colby is a 7th round rookie so the fact that he's giving us any snaps is a win I guess.

A little context to the OL discussion. They've generally been good in pass-blocking, and pretty awful in run-blocking.

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[clyde21]

per PFF we have the 9th ranked OL heading into W4, Trent, Brendel and McKivitz all rated 70+, Puni and Colby in the mid 50s

I am assuming the Colby/Puni are only gonna get better from here hopefully, Puni having a bit of a slump but maybe it's because of the injury, Colby is a 7th round rookie so the fact that he's giving us any snaps is a win I guess.

A little context to the OL discussion. They've generally been good in pass-blocking, and pretty awful in run-blocking.

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