State of the Cap 2013

GS Warriors 1 · Post #21 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Thu Feb 28, 2013 5:22 am

The only problem with a shutdown on one side is that other side is going to get more exposed than you want to and that was partly an issue with Cromartie(he actually looked better when Revis went out) and another example would be the Asomugha Oakland secondaries. The positive for the 49ers compared to those situations is that, when healthy, they have a very good(and better) pass rush so that can definitely make the defense more lethal.

The Baalke quote was directed toward Goldson IMO. I think the team has already set their main core group on D and that's the 4 LB's and trying to keep Justin Smith to retire in a 49er jersey. You also have McDonald and Rogers signed long-term as of now. It's coming close to the time where some of the guys on offense like Iupati, Crabtree, and A. Davis are going to want to be extended and if they continue to play at a high level, then they'll certainly deserve to be rewarded.

thesack12 · Post #22 » by **thesack12** » Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:31 am

Yeah the other corner does get exposed, because offenses all but forget about the side of the field Revis is on. That leads to the 2nd corner being forced to be targeted on a disproportionate amount of passes. When you are forced to be involved in more plays, its only going to lead to you giving up more negative plays. Thats the reason why Cromartie looked better without Revis on the field, because he wasn't being forced to defend the first QB read as much of the time.

This would also be a concern for Frisco if they aquired Revis, as they don't have any corners as good as Cromartie on the roster. But Frisco has an immensely better pass rush than the Jets ever had. So that would help mitigate the concern.

Its been well documented how losing Justin Smith adversely affected the pass rush and defensive line as a whole. However, one thing that I really havent heard is that losing all that push up front that the 9ers had early in the season, pretty much exposed the secondary. The secondary looked to be adequate all the way until Smith went out and the dLine couldn't get consistent push up front. It forced them to have to cover on more passing plays and longer periods of time per play, and they weren't able to get the job done. We know the pass rush is there, and can be fixed with pieces already on the roster. I don't think we can make the same statment about the secondary, it needs help and better pieces.

thesack12 · Post #23 » by **thesack12** » Mon Mar 4, 2013 2:35 am

Back to the cap situation....

I don't think its been mentioned on this board yet, but its pretty much a given than the 9ers are going to cut David Akers. So that will free up an additional 3 mil from the cap.

Post #24 » by **gswhoops** » Mon Mar 4, 2013 5:01 pm

Yeah, Akers' cut is a nice little bonus whenever it happens. That and the $9M freed up from the Smith trade will be a big help in managing the cap this offseason. I have to assume Parys Haralson will also get cut, which frees up another $2.8M

GS Warriors 1 · Post #25 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Mon Mar 4, 2013 11:13 pm

I believe a Haralson cut puts the 49ers at around $16M under the cap. Not as much as last year but they have room to make a couple moves in FA if they want.

and1GS · Post #26 » by **and1GS** » Tue Mar 5, 2013 10:10 pm

We should, theoretically, be able to re-sign Goldson long term with ease then...so why are we not rumored to do so?

GS Warriors 1 · Post #27 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:06 am

I think the team has set their value on Goldson and they are taking a wait and see approach at this point. It appears that he wants more than they are willing to spend and there's a good chance another team pays him what he wants. Schefter basically tweeted earlier that he was as good as gone.

Post #28 » by **gswhoops** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 4:25 pm

and1GS wrote:We should, theoretically, be able to re-sign Goldson long term with ease then...so why are we not rumored to do so?

I think they're more worried about his impact down the road than right now. We've got a lot of big money extensions coming up in the next two offseasons.

and1GS · Post #29 » by **and1GS** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 9:26 pm

True, but I can't imagine a team giving him over $6m (what he made last year). Safeties just aren't worth that much, so I hope that's about where we set our valuation.

GS Warriors 1 · Post #30 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:49 am

Projections seem to be around $5M under the cap when 1pm PST strikes tomorrow.

Rumors about Ed Reed, Sean Smith(MIA CB who can play FS), and a FA kicker are around but the Smith stuff was before the Boldin announcement, so have to think that is dead...for now at least.

and1GS · Post #31 » by **and1GS** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:13 pm

$5m before the Smith deal goes through? I thought that was the case, if so we should have about 8m free after the deals go through.

RIPskaterdude · Post #32 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:07 pm

Guess the Reed rumors aren't true. Oh well.

and1GS · Post #33 » by **and1GS** » Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:54 pm

Based on?

If we aren't getting Reed, we need to keep DaShon. But that also means we either need to cut Donte and bring in a rookie or seriously upgrade our CB1.

thesack12 · Post #34 » by **thesack12** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:39 am

^ There was a report earlier today saying that Frisco's interest in Ed was simply conjecture by his agent in an effort to smokescreen other teams into upping their offers.

Also read that Tampa sent a plane out to the west coast to pick up Goldson a couple hours ago. Teams don't normally do such things unless there is a deal in place or they are confident there will be. Tampa is also reportedly "on the verge" of trading for Darelle Revis, if thats true they may back off Goldson. But the Bucs have a ton of available cap space and had the league worst pass defense last season, so it wouldnt be surprising if they got both guys.

Either way Dashon Goldson is not coming back to San Francisco.

RIPskaterdude · Post #35 » by **RIPskaterdude** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:01 am

Why would they back off of Goldson if they get Revis? That would be an awesome combo, wish we could afford both of them.

thesack12 · Post #36 » by **thesack12** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:09 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:Why would they back off of Goldson if they get Revis? That would be an awesome combo, wish we could afford both of them.

Hell yeah, me also.

If they get Revis, they may back off Goldson simply from a financial sense. Revis is gonna be in the 14 mil per range, and Goldson in the 8 mil per range. TB has the available cap to work around that, but thats a ton of money to invest long term for only 2 players. Plus they are going to lose a couple opportunites of cheap talent, as they are likley going to be giving up multiple picks for Revis.

Personally I beleive that the NFL has changed, and teams should build their defense from the back up more often these days. Having an truly elite CB and a very good S, is a great start of the makings of a quality defense. This is expecially true for the Bucs, since both New Orleans and Atlanta are in their division.

and1GS · Post #37 » by **and1GS** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:45 pm

I think Tampa is out of the Revis race now, and I don't see any other team with the chips to trade for him.

thesack12 · Post #38 » by **thesack12** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 12:00 am

and1GS wrote:I think Tampa is out of the Revis race now, and I don't see any other team with the chips to trade for him.

Tampa might be out on Revis now, but I don't think Tampa has blown their wad yet. They were quite flush with available cap space, and have shown that they are very serious with their efforts to improve their 32nd ranked pass defense.

There are still a few teams out there with the bullets available to make a Revis run, and you can never rule out the surprise team opening up available resources and entering the sweepstakes (think Welker to the Broncos.) Reports were that Tampa and a "mystery team" were in on Revis. Both Atlanta and Philly have denied they were the mystery team. Either way, the loaded free agent CB market and fact that there is no way Revis is returning to the Jets all hurt the Jets in negotiations. Revis is clearly head and shoulders better than all those free agents (he's arguably the best defensive player in the league), but team seem to be waiting on how the free agent market falls. There are a lot of things in the situation, that are hurting the Jets. Strong free agent class, he's not going back to NY, the knee injury, need to extend him, will cost you draft picks.

My buddy that works at the combine told me that there was a feeling going around that Revis might be had for a 2nd rounder. When its all said and done, that may be the case.

and1GS · Post #39 » by **and1GS** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 4:54 pm

I think they're smart enough not to throw a mid-round first out in a deal for Revis, they're a well run organization. Who knows what will happen honestly, NFL trades are so hard to predict that I rarely have a semblance of an idea of what is going on.

What I do know is that I am not a fan of Nnamdi, andit looks like we will be going that route.

Post #40 » by **gswhoops** » Thu Mar 14, 2013 5:36 pm

I'm not a huge fan of Nnamdi either but on a 1 year, $2M-$3M "prove it" deal he's a very low risk, high reward pickup.