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Re: 2014 NFL Draft - Official Thread 

Post#21 » by WarFan » Sat May 10, 2014 4:29 pm

Bruce Ellington was my guy. Super stoked.

Terrance Mitchell is by far the top CB left at this point. I would have been fine with him at the end of the 2nd.
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Post#22 » by dr3am » Sat May 10, 2014 5:43 pm

So how good is this Dontae Johnson kid? Any rates?
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Post#23 » by GS Warriors 1 » Sat May 10, 2014 8:05 pm

49ers in day 3 so far:

4th 106 - WR Bruce Ellington, South Carolina
4th 129 - DB Dontae Johnson, North Carolina St.
5th 150 - DE/OLB Aaron Lynch, South Florida
5th 170 - CB Keith Reaser, Florida Atlantic - expected to miss 2014(ACL)
6th 180 - CB Kenneth Acker, SMU
7th 243 and 245 are left to go
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Re: 2014 NFL Draft - Official Thread 

Post#24 » by thesack12 » Sat May 17, 2014 11:01 pm

Wow, what an incredibly unispiring draft. I've already talked about Ward so I'll pick it up from there...

Carlos Hyde are you freaking kidding me? Has nothing to do with his talent/ability, but what a terrible pick. Seriously, where/when the hell is the guy going to play next season? Yes I get that Gore is near the end of the road, and Lattimore hasn't cemented himself as a legit option just yet, and Hyde is probably better than Hunter.I'm assuming James will be gone. But the truth is at absolute best he will enter the season 3rd on the depth chart. It quite possible he will be 4th. 3rd string Rb's rarely play for most teams, and they never play in Frisco. This is all assuming health of course, but you can say that about every position on the field. RB was arguably the deepest position on the roster. He's also another power type back. If they insisted upon drafting an RB, how about getting a scat back type who can contribute in the passing game and have an impact on special teams, you know like get something you don't have and can actually use. I would much rather have a guy like Dri Archer right now, as opposed to Hyde.

Its just another in a very long string of top draft picks that will provide little to no short term impact. It would be in Baalke's best interest to wake up and realize that this team is ready to win RIGHT NOW, and that window is not going to stay open forever. Yes, I get the value in drafting for the future. But that said, this was just a terrible pick.RB's are becoming more and more devalued. Its proven time and again that RB's translate easily, and can be plugged in and immediately hit the ground running. RB is EASILY the most plug and play position on the field. A lot of times most of the guys plugged in are low draft picks/UDFA's. Plus, next year's RB class is widely considered to be stronger than this year. In My opinion it was pretty clear that this season was Gore's last as the lead dog and last in Frisco for Hunter, and was Lattimore's chance to prove he is the guy. That said drafting an RB should have been in the equation next season. How much of a priority to put on the position in next draft depended upon Lattimore's performance this season. This Hyde pick is just terrible in my opinion. Wasting a 2nd round pick on a RB, is just stupid.

Marcus Martin Ehh, whatever. Can't say I know much about him. But I guess C was a need, if they aren't convinced either Kilgore or Looney can take that role and run with it. On the positive side I will say that this seems to be a value pick. Martin was expected to go much higher, as he was a green room invitee.

Chris Borland Finally a solid pick. This guy was both a value pick, filled an immediate need, and should provide solid depth at a thin position down the road. If this guy is as good as a lot of people think he is, he should be a solid guy to plug in until Bowman gets back. That experience of being leaned on early should help him develop, so he can provide some solid depth at ILB. That is a postion where depth was needed

Brandon Thomas While I don't hate this pick, at this particular point in time I'm not real keen on it. This is another high pick on a redshirt guy. Lots of people saying he would have gone much higher had he not gotten hurt. I get that, but the fact of the matter is he did get hurt. And with serious injury comes the possibility of never regaining 100% prior form, and drastically delayed development. That said, I have never really been a big fan of Mike Iupati. So if Thomas can get healthy, and show he can step in and do a solid job so Frisco doesn't have to pay Iupati then I will end up loving this guy. But with his injury i just don't know if there enough time for him to be able to show enough to prove he can be that guy, before the decision on Iupati needs to be made. In any event, if he can regain full health he is probably better than Boone.

Bruce Ellington This is the only pick that I LOVE. I was high on this guy for awhile, and he can provide 2 things this team desperately needs. 1) Speed. The entire offense is seriously deprived of speed, this guy can inject some. 2) He can become a much more dynamic return man than anything Frisco has had in recent years. Yes, his overall role as a WR will be limited early on, but those 2 previously mentioned attributes should ensure that he has a role on the team early on. In this case, a situational player was a GREAT pick. I also Love that he was a PG for the SC basketball team. That means he should have very good field awareness, pay attention to detail, and be very shifty in the open field. This was also a great value pick, as Ellington was considered to be a 2nd round prospect by many.

Dontae Johnson Seems like he could be a solid pick. Measureables and production are good. Never seen him myself. At the very least he is competition for the underwhelming group of CB's. Now that I think of that, wouldn't surprise me if this guy emerged to become a rotational CB

Aaron Lynch Truly terrible pick. Not only is this guy's body in question right now, and currently has no position, but he has serious off the field issues. Apparently he is such a bad/dislikeable guy that after the draft one of his former assistant coaches at South Florida ripped the 9ers for drafting him. That kind of thing never happens. I fully expect this guy never suits up for anything important. Wasted pick

Keith Reaser Just another redshirt guy. Probably a wasted pick, its likely he is kept on NFI this season, and cut in next year's camp. Also, basically nobody had this guy on the draft radar, many presumed he was not even a priority UDFA, yet Frisco insisted on taking him in the 5th

Kenneth Acker Likely nothing more than a camp body. He's probably no better than Darryl Morris. Yet another guy many thought was going to be a UDFA. At least he will compete with that subpar CB group

Kaleb Ramsey Dude is ALWAYS injured and is 25 years old. He won't stick

Trey Millard OK, this guy as widely considered the best fullback in the draft. but, he is coming off major injury so he is yet ANOTHER redshirt guy. He will probably be fine and become a solid player. The problem with this pick is Bruce Miller. Miller recently signed an extension, and has proven to be a valuable and versatile asset to the offense. Its pretty unlikely the team will keep 2 pure fullbacks on the active roster at any point. That being the case, if either Miller or Millard don't learn to play a few TE packages one of them is gone. If that happens, the team will lose an asset.

In conclusion: Assuming full health (Bowman included) there are no clear starters or guys projected to contribute greatly in the short term in the entire draft class. That trend has been a common theme for 3 straight drafts now, and it is really hurting the team. They simply aren't making the necessary tweaks to get over the hump.

In Addition they did basically the minimum the address the biggest weakness on the team, CB. I seems as though Baalke realized this later on (although too late) because he started a wave of drafting CB's, some of which were reaches. One or ideally 2 of the CB's need to step up, or else that secondary is going to get used.

On the positive side, I am now fully on board with the Stevie Johnson trade. The 2nd round trade with Denver which recouped the draft pick, and drafting Ellington erased all of my qualms with the move. Now I LOVE the move.
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Re: 2014 NFL Draft - Official Thread 

Post#25 » by thesack12 » Wed Jun 4, 2014 10:34 pm

There has been recent chatter that Frisco wasn't high on this year's CB crop. To me that smells like BS, and or damage control. I think those reports may have been "leaked" after Baalke and crew finally realizing just how crappy their CB situation is. Seems like a "save face" type of thing to me.

But, lets just give them the benefit of the doubt and say that they indeed weren't high on this year's CB crop. The problem with that is, is just makes the rest of their offseason moves look bad. If they weren't high on the CB crop, they should have been aware of this for awhile. So, if thats the case why the hell were they not more aggressive addressing CB in the offseason? Why did they not try harder to retain Tarrell Brown, who only walked for a 1 year 3 mil deal? CB was/is this team's most obvious weakness, and it has been an area of concern for a couple seasons now.

I just continue to question what the hell Baalke is doing. He sure seems like he isn't able to identify problem areas on this team, and rectify those situations.

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