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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#21 » by ChrisPozz » Fri Jan 9, 2015 2:50 am

Garcia disagrees with Kap's choice to train with Warner

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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#22 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:02 am

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ChrisPozz wrote:Side note on Steve Young for those that haven't heard or read about Young as a mentor/coach. Young has kind of developed the reputation from a number of quarterbacks who have worked with him that he isn't the best TEACHER of quarterbacks but he's very supportive and can be good to talk to and bounce things off of in an emotional support role.


It's hard for some of the greatest players to teach because it's hard to put everything down into words. You see things differently. You instinctively feel things when you're out there. It's kind of like why I don't think Michael Jordan could ever teach the game.


And the Jerry Rice as 49ers WRs coach argument that I've seen on more than one 49ers message board for years has irritated me like you wouldn't believe. I'm not sure he'd quite be as bad of a WRs coach as he was an NFL ESPN analyst but I'd be surprised if he'd make a good hire like many others think he would be.


These are very good observations and is true universally. I read one guy post on a blog recently that Montana should be brought in to coach Kaepernick. It drives me nuts. People assume great players make great coaches/teachers which is not true. Great players can be really good teachers but they are not great teachers simply by being great at playing. Teaching is a completely different skill. It takes good communication skills along with the ability to effective demonstrate how to perform a task in a way the person being taught can understand. I studied mariial arts for years and some of the best competitors I knew were not all that good at tutoring others,
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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#23 » by ChrisPozz » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:11 am

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It's hard for some of the greatest players to teach because it's hard to put everything down into words. You see things differently. You instinctively feel things when you're out there. It's kind of like why I don't think Michael Jordan could ever teach the game.


And the Jerry Rice as 49ers WRs coach argument that I've seen on more than one 49ers message board for years has irritated me like you wouldn't believe. I'm not sure he'd quite be as bad of a WRs coach as he was an NFL ESPN analyst but I'd be surprised if he'd make a good hire like many others think he would be.


These are very good observations and is true universally. I read one guy post on a blog recently that Montana should be brought in to coach Kaepernick. It drives me nuts. People assume great players make great coaches/teachers which is not true. Great players can be really good teachers but they are not great teachers simply by being great at playing. Teaching is a completely different skill. It takes good communication skills along with the ability to effective demonstrate how to perform a task in a way the person being taught can understand. I studied mariial arts for years and some of the best competitors I knew were not all that good at tutoring others,


I can't speak as strongly to the kind of coach Montana might've been but he has said numerous times for many years now he couldn't take on a day in and day out football job in any form or fashion and has no interest. If anybody is wondering on here.
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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#24 » by Tomikcon1971 » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:20 am

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Pattersonca65 wrote:
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And the Jerry Rice as 49ers WRs coach argument that I've seen on more than one 49ers message board for years has irritated me like you wouldn't believe. I'm not sure he'd quite be as bad of a WRs coach as he was an NFL ESPN analyst but I'd be surprised if he'd make a good hire like many others think he would be.


These are very good observations and is true universally. I read one guy post on a blog recently that Montana should be brought in to coach Kaepernick. It drives me nuts. People assume great players make great coaches/teachers which is not true. Great players can be really good teachers but they are not great teachers simply by being great at playing. Teaching is a completely different skill. It takes good communication skills along with the ability to effective demonstrate how to perform a task in a way the person being taught can understand. I studied mariial arts for years and some of the best competitors I knew were not all that good at tutoring others,


I can't speak as strongly to the kind of coach Montana might've been but he has said numerous times for many years now he couldn't take on a day in and day out football job in any form or fashion and has no interest. If anybody is wondering on here.


I would have been completely shocked if Montana ever took a coaching job. Doesn't fit the part in any way.....IMO.
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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#25 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:24 am

ChrisPozz wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
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And the Jerry Rice as 49ers WRs coach argument that I've seen on more than one 49ers message board for years has irritated me like you wouldn't believe. I'm not sure he'd quite be as bad of a WRs coach as he was an NFL ESPN analyst but I'd be surprised if he'd make a good hire like many others think he would be.


These are very good observations and is true universally. I read one guy post on a blog recently that Montana should be brought in to coach Kaepernick. It drives me nuts. People assume great players make great coaches/teachers which is not true. Great players can be really good teachers but they are not great teachers simply by being great at playing. Teaching is a completely different skill. It takes good communication skills along with the ability to effective demonstrate how to perform a task in a way the person being taught can understand. I studied mariial arts for years and some of the best competitors I knew were not all that good at tutoring others,


I can't speak as strongly to the kind of coach Montana might've been but he has said numerous times for many years now he couldn't take on a day in and day out football job in any form or fashion and has no interest. If anybody is wondering on here.


I am not surprised Montana has said this. I suspect most former star players have no interest in coaching. When done playing, they want to go onto something else. I would imagine they don't want to put in the long hours or go through the daily grind of coaching. In fact, I listened to a Montana interview several months back and from some of his replies it appears he doesn't even follow the NFL very closely.
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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#26 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:34 am

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/garcia- ... ain-warner

Wow. Talk about sour grapes. I had read Garcia was lobbying for the job and he has to whine publicly by knocking both Kaepernick and Warner.
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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#27 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:48 am

ChrisPozz wrote:
jackwindham wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:Side note on Steve Young for those that haven't heard or read about Young as a mentor/coach. Young has kind of developed the reputation from a number of quarterbacks who have worked with him that he isn't the best TEACHER of quarterbacks but he's very supportive and can be good to talk to and bounce things off of in an emotional support role.


It's hard for some of the greatest players to teach because it's hard to put everything down into words. You see things differently. You instinctively feel things when you're out there. It's kind of like why I don't think Michael Jordan could ever teach the game.


And the Jerry Rice as 49ers WRs coach argument that I've seen on more than one 49ers message board for years has irritated me like you wouldn't believe. I'm not sure he'd quite be as bad of a WRs coach as he was an NFL ESPN analyst but I'd be surprised if he'd make a good hire like many others think he would be.


He couldnt' be any worse than Morton....
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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#28 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:50 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:
jackwindham wrote:
It's hard for some of the greatest players to teach because it's hard to put everything down into words. You see things differently. You instinctively feel things when you're out there. It's kind of like why I don't think Michael Jordan could ever teach the game.


And the Jerry Rice as 49ers WRs coach argument that I've seen on more than one 49ers message board for years has irritated me like you wouldn't believe. I'm not sure he'd quite be as bad of a WRs coach as he was an NFL ESPN analyst but I'd be surprised if he'd make a good hire like many others think he would be.


He couldnt' be any worse than Morton....


LOL, The 49ers could probably find someone just as good at the high school level and it would be a hell of lot cheaper
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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#29 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Jan 9, 2015 3:54 am

ChrisPozz wrote:Garcia disagrees with Kap's choice to train with Warner

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/garcia- ... ain-warner


The Grant Cohn piece he mentions there was complete garbage. I couldn't resist commenting. I guarantee that if Kap had gone with Garcia, Cohn would have written the same article, but it would have been, "Kap picks tutor who also struggled from pocket, doesn't want to improve his weaknesses." Frankly, if Kap wants to get better FROM THE POCKET, Warner is likely the much better instructor than Garcia.

And Cohn's stuff about Garcia being the better choice because of familiarity with the WCO (last I checked, we don't even have a HC, much less an offensive scheme) and the Niners' terminology (call me crazy, but for some reason I was under the impression this chanced with every coach) is just ludicrous. Grant at his rabble-rousing worst.
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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#30 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Jan 9, 2015 4:06 am

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ChrisPozz wrote:Garcia disagrees with Kap's choice to train with Warner

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/garcia- ... ain-warner


The Grant Cohn piece he mentions there was complete garbage. I couldn't resist commenting. I guarantee that if Kap had gone with Garcia, Cohn would have written the same article, but it would have been, "Kap picks tutor who also struggled from pocket, doesn't want to improve his weaknesses." Frankly, if Kap wants to get better FROM THE POCKET, Warner is likely the much better instructor than Garcia.

And Cohn's stuff about Garcia being the better choice because of familiarity with the WCO (last I checked, we don't even have a HC, much less an offensive scheme) and the Niners' terminology (call me crazy, but for some reason I was under the impression this chanced with every coach) is just ludicrous. Grant at his rabble-rousing worst.


Cohn is a jackass. I don't really care what his opinion is. I just saw Garcia's tweet and the headline but if Garcia really did publicly say that KW was the wrong choice than my disappointment lies in Garcia and not Cohn.
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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#31 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Jan 9, 2015 6:43 pm

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ChrisPozz wrote:Garcia disagrees with Kap's choice to train with Warner

http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/garcia- ... ain-warner


The Grant Cohn piece he mentions there was complete garbage. I couldn't resist commenting. I guarantee that if Kap had gone with Garcia, Cohn would have written the same article, but it would have been, "Kap picks tutor who also struggled from pocket, doesn't want to improve his weaknesses." Frankly, if Kap wants to get better FROM THE POCKET, Warner is likely the much better instructor than Garcia.

And Cohn's stuff about Garcia being the better choice because of familiarity with the WCO (last I checked, we don't even have a HC, much less an offensive scheme) and the Niners' terminology (call me crazy, but for some reason I was under the impression this chanced with every coach) is just ludicrous. Grant at his rabble-rousing worst.


Cohn is a jackass. I don't really care what his opinion is. I just saw Garcia's tweet and the headline but if Garcia really did publicly say that KW was the wrong choice than my disappointment lies in Garcia and not Cohn.


Come on, now. Garcia would never say that:

Garcia tweeted an article from the Santa Rosa Press Democrat titled 'Colin Kaepernick's coach choice couldn't be more wrong for job,' and added, "I didn't say it but I thought it."

See what he did there?
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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#32 » by Jikkle » Fri Jan 9, 2015 8:45 pm

There are Bay Area writers that would find something to complain about if the team went undefeated and set every major offensive and defensive record in a season.

Grant is just one of the worst because he at times just comes off like someone raging on a message board.

I mean the Warner article was just complete garbage and made no sense at all and makes him look like a complete hypocrite since everything he's slammed Kap about is what Kap is attempting to work on with his offseason program.

Regardless of what anyone thinks of Kap and if he'll ever be a quality QB I don't see how anyone could find fault with the approach he's taking this offseason.
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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#33 » by ChrisPozz » Sun Jan 11, 2015 7:43 pm

Kaepernick reports to work in Arizona

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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#34 » by ChrisPozz » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:18 am

If Garcia is anything at this point, he's persistent.

http://www.knbr.com/common/page.php?pt= ... &is_corp=0

Former 49ers quarterback Jeff Garcia joined Tom Tolbert Friday afternoon on KNBR 680 and offered to lend his services to help improve Colin Kaepernick's play. Do you think Kap should take Garcia up on the offer?
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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#35 » by -AC- » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:19 am

Garcia has been knocking on this door for a few seasons now...
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Re: Kaepernick will train with Kurt Warner 

Post#36 » by Tomikcon1971 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:14 pm

I'm just glad he's training with a former Pro QB rather than with his buddies in Miami.
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