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Re: Worst offensive line in 30 years according to Mark Schlereth 

Post#21 » by I_am_1z » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:28 am

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Pattersonca65 wrote: but the team was constantly rotating lineman during training camp and the preseason before finally settling on a starting unit by the start of the season.


Devey wasn't part of the team for training camp. Camp ended on the august 13th, we traded for Devey on the 18th. He was with us for 2 weeks before being named starter. If we were still under heavy rotation during that 2 week period I don't know how many reps he would have actually received, but I have a hard time believing he blew people away.


The problem is I don't think any of the players blew people away. I don't think any of the players stood out. I am not there watching practice so I can only go on what was reported by people covering the team. Silberman, Thomas, Martin, Brown all struggled. I am not defending Devey, he's awful. Has to be on the GM for not brining in the right people.


You guys must have forgot how long it took to find an OL that's presentable. AD retiring threw a wrench establishing any sort of offense.
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Re: Worst offensive line in 30 years according to Mark Schlereth 

Post#22 » by ChrisPozz » Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:50 am

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Bald Bull wrote:The most annoying thing about Devey is the fact that he didn't even compete to earn the job after we traded for him. He was handed the starting job and even this current "competition" with Tiller, where he is clearly inferior he is still given some strange benefit of the doubt.

I could see giving him this much of a leash if he was a long time 49er who had success in the past but fell off, but he's never been anything but ****.


Completely agree. Why not sign Evan Mathis? Maybe he wanted too much money for his age who knows. But this OL, especially the right side is atrocious.


We don't know whether the 49ers pursued Mathis, but he turned down more money from Miami to go to Denver. It apprears Mathis wanted to play for a contender and that being the case, the 49ers would be probably be among one of the last places he would want to be given the perception this offseason of the organization. The team would have had to drastically overpay him to try and get him here and I don't see the point of that


His agent said he wanted to end up with a contender but there were also reports that his agent had contact with multiple teams that the majority of people would say were not contenders. It's possible he had only listened to their offers and was ONLY seriously considering contenders, which would actually be my own personal guess as well.
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Re: Worst offensive line in 30 years according to Mark Schlereth 

Post#23 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:06 am

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Completely agree. Why not sign Evan Mathis? Maybe he wanted too much money for his age who knows. But this OL, especially the right side is atrocious.


We don't know whether the 49ers pursued Mathis, but he turned down more money from Miami to go to Denver. It apprears Mathis wanted to play for a contender and that being the case, the 49ers would be probably be among one of the last places he would want to be given the perception this offseason of the organization. The team would have had to drastically overpay him to try and get him here and I don't see the point of that


His agent said he wanted to end up with a contender but there were also reports that his agent had contact with multiple teams that the majority of people would say were not contenders. It's possible he had only listened to their offers and was ONLY seriously considering contenders, which would actually be my own personal guess as well.


Kind of makes sense. Why would you not at a minimum see what other teams are offering. If some team was willing through a really big contract offer at him, he might have determined the money was too good to pass up regardless of the team being a contender.
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Re: Worst offensive line in 30 years according to Mark Schlereth 

Post#24 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:06 am

clyde21 wrote:Dumbfounding how we went from one of the best OLs in the league to arguably the worst in a few years.

It's time for a total rebuild. Try and flip everyone.


You lose three of your starters, and two after the draft and the major part of FA (given Kilgore's setback), and it's not a huge shock. Still, I'm pretty surprised none of the young guys have unseated Devey, yet. Brandon Thomas needs to get his act together. Carradine played reasonably well this week. We need him and Thomas - and a few other guys - to start playing up to their draft position.
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Re: Worst offensive line in 30 years according to Mark Schlereth 

Post#25 » by clyde21 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:25 am

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clyde21 wrote:Dumbfounding how we went from one of the best OLs in the league to arguably the worst in a few years.

It's time for a total rebuild. Try and flip everyone.


You lose three of your starters, and two after the draft and the major part of FA (given Kilgore's setback), and it's not a huge shock. Still, I'm pretty surprised none of the young guys have unseated Devey, yet. Brandon Thomas needs to get his act together. Carradine played reasonably well this week. We need him and Thomas - and a few other guys - to start playing up to their draft position.


Not shocking, but it's crazy how quickly this team has regressed in a couple of years. OL has been a microcosm of that.
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Re: Worst offensive line in 30 years according to Mark Schlereth 

Post#26 » by Tomikcon1971 » Mon Oct 26, 2015 4:35 am

I think part of the regression was that our starters played so may snaps the last few years, particularily on defense. We didn't really seem to have much of a rotation. The front line guys played down after down.....there were comments made in years past about guys being dinged up and tired during the playoffs but another effect is not getting experience for the younger guys, unless injuries occurred.
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Re: Worst offensive line in 30 years according to Mark Schlereth 

Post#28 » by Bald Bull » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:21 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/10/29/9638906/it-does-not-sound-like-trenton-brown-ian-silberman-will-be-getting

Doesn't look like any changes are coming soon.


The fact that they are sticking with Devey has me considering conspiracy theories at this point.
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Re: Worst offensive line in 30 years according to Mark Schlereth 

Post#30 » by Ray_Dogg » Thu Nov 5, 2015 6:14 pm

Forget Brown or Silberman. Brandon freaking Thomas. If the guy is injured and that is the reason then why the eff is he not on IR? Play the kid. This is outrageous.
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Post#31 » by wco81 » Mon Nov 9, 2015 8:13 pm

Someone posted on the 49ers forums that Thomas doesn't get snaps because he's very vulnerable tot he bull rush in practice.
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Post#32 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Nov 9, 2015 9:32 pm

wco81 wrote:Someone posted on the 49ers forums that Thomas doesn't get snaps because he's very vulnerable tot he bull rush in practice.


I posted a question to Matt Maicco about Brandon Thomas recently. Matt M replied. He didn't elaborate in detail but bascially confirmed that he has not looked good in practice at all and still hasn't fully recovered from his injury.
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Re: Worst offensive line in 30 years according to Mark Schlereth 

Post#34 » by I_am_1z » Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:24 pm

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wco81 wrote:Someone posted on the 49ers forums that Thomas doesn't get snaps because he's very vulnerable tot he bull rush in practice.


I posted a question to Matt Maicco about Brandon Thomas recently. Matt M replied. He didn't elaborate in detail but bascially confirmed that he has not looked good in practice at all and still hasn't fully recovered from his injury.


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Re: Worst offensive line in 30 years according to Mark Schlereth 

Post#35 » by wco81 » Wed Nov 11, 2015 9:31 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/11/11/9711032/breaking-down-trenton-browns-performance-against-the-falcons


Obviously it would be great if he became a serviceable player.

But what does the team realistically expect from a 7th round pick? At best a serviceable backup, not a starter.

They need to draft OL as well as all the other positions of need. Anthony Davis may come back but they need to add depth to that line too.

Ideally, they draft and sign players so the team can cut Devey, Pears and if necessary, Thomas and Martin.
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Re: Worst offensive line in 30 years according to Mark Schlereth 

Post#36 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:27 pm

wco81 wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/11/11/9711032/breaking-down-trenton-browns-performance-against-the-falcons


Obviously it would be great if he became a serviceable player.

But what does the team realistically expect from a 7th round pick? At best a serviceable backup, not a starter.

They need to draft OL as well as all the other positions of need. Anthony Davis may come back but they need to add depth to that line too.

Ideally, they draft and sign players so the team can cut Devey, Pears and if necessary, Thomas and Martin.


Absolutely. I hope never to see Pears and Devey again after this season. Hopefully with Brown the 49ers found a diamond in the rough. I am a bit concerned about Martin seeing how awful he is playing. Can he make that much of a leap to becoming a really good player? The 49ers reason for keeping Pears and Devey playing is supposedly they are better suited to playing the zone blocking scheme than some of the other olineman on the team. To me, if they are **** at blocking who cares.
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Re: Worst offensive line in 30 years according to Mark Schlereth 

Post#37 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:28 pm

I_am_1z wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
wco81 wrote:Someone posted on the 49ers forums that Thomas doesn't get snaps because he's very vulnerable tot he bull rush in practice.


I posted a question to Matt Maicco about Brandon Thomas recently. Matt M replied. He didn't elaborate in detail but bascially confirmed that he has not looked good in practice at all and still hasn't fully recovered from his injury.


WHO IS REHABBING OUR PLAYERS?


Donald Duck?
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Re: Worst offensive line in 30 years according to Mark Schlereth 

Post#38 » by I_am_1z » Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:18 am

Pattersonca65 wrote:
I_am_1z wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
I posted a question to Matt Maicco about Brandon Thomas recently. Matt M replied. He didn't elaborate in detail but bascially confirmed that he has not looked good in practice at all and still hasn't fully recovered from his injury.


WHO IS REHABBING OUR PLAYERS?


Donald Duck?



:lol:

I'm not going to lie, I pictured this happening for a good two minutes or so.

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