Jimmie Ward is PFF's best CB over the past 3 weeks

[CrimsonCrew]

Many fans told me Kaepernick was the problem and Gabbert was the answer.

Kaepernick was the problem. Gabbert wasn't the answer though. Connor Cook or Jared Goff is.

I'm thrilled Ward is playing better; he was struggling mightily earlier this season. I want to see this level of play over the course of the entire season though.

Jury's still out on Armstead, of course.

Kaepernick is not the problem. The problem is a horrid, almost the worst ever, right side of an offensive line. 3 out of the 5 offensive linemen were near the worst of all offensive linemen the whole time he was QB. That meant you can't run or pass. Not even Tom Brady would look good because of that line. In fact, Devey alone made it so KC destroyed Tom Brady last season so badly that Steve Young and Trent Dilfer said that Tom Brady was through and the Patriots were not good anymore. The next game they benched Devey and they became good again and went on to win the Superbowl. The line is also the reason we lost so many runningbacks this year. They were getting hit before they had a chance to find a hole causing less chances to run out of bounds and had to struggle many times to get to the los. When your offensive line doesn't give you time you start throwing the ball dumb and missing reads. I have seen it from some of the best QBs this year. Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers both have thrown horrendous passes when there a couple of their starting linemen are out. And those backups were playing better than the garbage the 49ers were throwing out there.

I am not saying that Kaepernick is as good as those 2, but he has shown in the past that he is not crap. I see him getting back to being a solid starting QB next season if they rebuild the line to being competent. That means that we have a real RT and RG play next season. No more Jonathan Martin at RT, Marcus Martin at center or guard, Pears at RT or RG, or Devey at G. We need palyers with actual talent. The funny thing was as bad as J Martin was he was the best of the bunch of rejects we have had over on that side of the ball in the past 2 years; Boone included. Now he is out of the NFL.

As for Goff and Cook being the answer. They might be good QBs in the future, but they need a few years as a backup learning to be good. Same with Lynch who is probably better than the other 2. But if we want to rebuild faster than you get either a play making defensive player or a stout offensive lineman and go with Kaepernick. If for some chance you can get a first round pick or 2 for him from the Eagles then trade him, but I would rather trade Gabbert to the Cowboys for a 3rd or something similar. If lucky we might even get a second or 2 for him from a desperate team like the Cowboys or Eagles.

I am not so sure we won't rebuild really fast. We have the cap space to lure in great talent. On offense we need 2 linemen, both guards if Davis comes back in shape(only one if Boone comes back), a 3rd down back and maybe a TE in the mold of Walker. On Defense we need a DE, OLB, (both to get pressure on the QB) and an ILBer.

The other thing we need is our OC to go and get someone who can actually make moves with the offensive line and put out the people who can actually play and design plays to go beyond the los.

A little late to this one, but I view Kap in much the same light as Tomsula this season. Was either guy going to succeed? No. Not unless they were HOFers at their respective posts. You can't discount them as a coach or QB based solely on the numbers. It's not the fact that they're losing, it's HOW they're losing. In Tomsula's case, lack of discipline, no consistency, utterly predictable, not getting up for games. All point to a HC who is in over his head. In Kap's case, absolute lack of pocket presence or awareness, horrid inaccuracy, poor decisions. All point to a QB who isn't a franchise guy. Kap and Gabbert both have elite physical talent, but there's something missing. If it's not there yet, the odds of it appearing at some point in the near future are awfully slim. If this team wants to move ahead, we need to move on from coach and QB.

As far as rebuilding quickly, I won't discount it. Our biggest problem, the OL, could be looking an awful lot stronger next year if we can trot out something like Staley - A. Davis/TBD - Kilgore - Tiller - Brown/A. Davis. Hyde is a talented guy, we have some talent at WR and would presumably add something else, lots of depth at TE if they can stay healthy, and a D that is a solid pass rusher away from being good and potentially great. That said, that's a best-case scenario, and that rarely pans out. We could just as easily go 6-10 or worse next year. At the end of the day, we don't have a QB, and that's going to hold us back unless we're once again elite across the board. I don't see that happening again soon.

[CrimsonCrew]

I don't think Armstead is a bust and I don't think most 49er fans feel that way yet. The issue is whether Armstead should have been taken with that pick or was there other better options or pressing needs at this point.

When he was mocked to the 49ers people were already bickering.

I can understand why. Why take a project with that pick when there were other players available that fit a stronger need.

I don't like taking a first round pick with an eye toward year one need; rookies just don't make enough of an impact in their first year to go with that approach. You want the best player you can get there, provided that player won't end up as a perennial backup behind a star. The bigger issue with Armstead is that the jury is still out as to whether he'll be a great player. I'm a little shocked we started Purcell this past week, though Armstead got plenty of snaps. I find it a little ridiculous, at this point in a lost season, that we're starting Purcell and Brooks over Harold and Armstead. We need the rookies to get as much live action as possible.

[I_am_1z]

When he was mocked to the 49ers people were already bickering.

I can understand why. Why take a project with that pick when there were other players available that fit a stronger need.

I don't like taking a first round pick with an eye toward year one need; rookies just don't make enough of an impact in their first year to go with that approach. You want the best player you can get there, provided that player won't end up as a perennial backup behind a star. The bigger issue with Armstead is that the jury is still out as to whether he'll be a great player. I'm a little shocked we started Purcell this past week, though Armstead got plenty of snaps. I find it a little ridiculous, at this point in a lost season, that we're starting Purcell and Brooks over Harold and Armstead. We need the rookies to get as much live action as possible.

PERSONNEL DECISIONS THIS YEAR.

[I_am_1z]

A little late to this one, but I view Kap in much the same light as Tomsula this season. Was either guy going to succeed? No. Not unless they were HOFers at their respective posts. You can't discount them as a coach or QB based solely on the numbers. It's not the fact that they're losing, it's HOW they're losing. In Tomsula's case, lack of discipline, no consistency, utterly predictable, not getting up for games. All point to a HC who is in over his head. In Kap's case, absolute lack of pocket presence or awareness, horrid inaccuracy, poor decisions. All point to a QB who isn't a franchise guy. Kap and Gabbert both have elite physical talent, but there's something missing. If it's not there yet, the odds of it appearing at some point in the near future are awfully slim. If this team wants to move ahead, we need to move on from coach and QB.

As far as rebuilding quickly, I won't discount it. Our biggest problem, the OL, could be looking an awful lot stronger next year if we can trot out something like Staley - A. Davis/TBD - Kilgore - Tiller - Brown/A. Davis. Hyde is a talented guy, we have some talent at WR and would presumably add something else, lots of depth at TE if they can stay healthy, and a D that is a solid pass rusher away from being good and potentially great. That said, that's a best-case scenario, and that rarely pans out. We could just as easily go 6-10 or worse next year. At the end of the day, we don't have a QB, and that's going to hold us back unless we're once again elite across the board. I don't see that happening again soon.

Tom Coughlin has had that his ENTIRE HOF worthy career. I have no idea how a fan can actually get mad with the coach when veterans like Bowman are missing tackles. Now, why isn't Dontae Johnson getting more run when Acker is good for giving up one big play a game? Why run it only 3 times in the 2nd half when the team was dominating in the run game in the first half? Those are traits of bad coaching.

[Pattersonca65]

When he was mocked to the 49ers people were already bickering.

I can understand why. Why take a project with that pick when there were other players available that fit a stronger need.

I don't like taking a first round pick with an eye toward year one need; rookies just don't make enough of an impact in their first year to go with that approach. You want the best player you can get there, provided that player won't end up as a perennial backup behind a star. The bigger issue with Armstead is that the jury is still out as to whether he'll be a great player. I'm a little shocked we started Purcell this past week, though Armstead got plenty of snaps. I find it a little ridiculous, at this point in a lost season, that we're starting Purcell and Brooks over Harold and Armstead. We need the rookies to get as much live action as possible.

I think there other players available that weren't a project in the 1st round that fill a bigger need. This team has needs in quite a few areas. I can understand playing Purcell but not Brooks. I would like to see more of Harold and Armstead and less of Lemonier. We already know what we have in Lemonier. Word is the team wants Harold to bulk up a bit. I think Armstead was dinged up a bit last game.

[RedneckNiner]

I don't get mad at Tomsula for missed tackles. What proves he is woefully unprepared to be a head coach is look at his time management. Watch How flat the team comes out on the road? The horrible challenges , bad game planning First half every game I can tell you the play calls run run pass punt... Some of it is on the players but even the Cardinals came out and said it they knew what was coming. It is obvious to anyone with a modicum of football knowledge and isn't blinded by Homerism that Tomsula is miles out of his league as a head coach. Again you ask why Dontae isnt getting played over Acker, Why Tiller wasn't replacing Devey, WHy Pears is playing hello Coaching. Tomsula saying we had good energy all week and getting blown out by teams like the BROWNS.. the blame is partly on the players but the coaching has been downright awful.

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Wait so Ward has a few games where he plays well and all the sudden he's worth a first round pick? He's had a few good games so let's forget that the likes of: Derek Carr, Jordan Matthews and Bradley Roby were picked after him.

[I_am_1z]

Wait so Ward has a few games where he plays well and all the sudden he's worth a first round pick? He's had a few good games so let's forget that the likes of: Derek Carr, Jordan Matthews and Bradley Roby were picked after him.

Bradley Roby and Jordan Matthews lol.

He's had an excellent 3 consecutive weeks—best in the league (according to PFF) and other than the offsides didn't notice him in the Lions game which is likely means he had a decent game in Detriot as well. He had another good game against Randall Cobb and the Packers. A guy coming off a lower extremity injury playing out of position is going to take time to develop. Last year was Super Bowl or bust, the point of taking Jimmie Ward was because 49ers had a Super Bowl caliber roster that was missing ONE thing if Harbaugh could get the offense clicking again.

[I_am_1z]

I don't get mad at Tomsula for missed tackles. What proves he is woefully unprepared to be a head coach is look at his time management. Watch How flat the team comes out on the road? The horrible challenges , bad game planning First half every game I can tell you the play calls run run pass punt... Some of it is on the players but even the Cardinals came out and said it they knew what was coming. It is obvious to anyone with a modicum of football knowledge and isn't blinded by Homerism that Tomsula is miles out of his league as a head coach. Again you ask why Dontae isnt getting played over Acker, Why Tiller wasn't replacing Devey, WHy Pears is playing hello Coaching. Tomsula saying we had good energy all week and getting blown out by teams like the BROWNS.. the blame is partly on the players but the coaching has been downright awful.

Vent frustration towards the right flaws, don't be blinded by your own fury.

[CrimsonCrew]

I don't get mad at Tomsula for missed tackles. What proves he is woefully unprepared to be a head coach is look at his time management. Watch How flat the team comes out on the road? The horrible challenges , bad game planning First half every game I can tell you the play calls run run pass punt... Some of it is on the players but even the Cardinals came out and said it they knew what was coming. It is obvious to anyone with a modicum of football knowledge and isn't blinded by Homerism that Tomsula is miles out of his league as a head coach. Again you ask why Dontae isnt getting played over Acker, Why Tiller wasn't replacing Devey, WHy Pears is playing hello Coaching. Tomsula saying we had good energy all week and getting blown out by teams like the BROWNS.. the blame is partly on the players but the coaching has been downright awful.

Vent frustration towards the right flaws, don't be blinded by your own fury.

Do you think Tomsula has done an adequate job this year? Sure, he had a lot going against him, but he's looked totally lost out there.

[Dodub]

Wait so Ward has a few games where he plays well and all the sudden he's worth a first round pick? He's had a few good games so let's forget that the likes of: Derek Carr, Jordan Matthews and Bradley Roby were picked after him.

Bradley Roby and Jordan Matthews lol.

He's had an excellent 3 consecutive weeks—best in the league (according to PFF) and other than the offsides didn't notice him in the Lions game which is likely means he had a decent game in Detriot as well. He had another good game against Randall Cobb and the Packers. A guy coming off a lower extremity injury playing out of position is going to take time to develop. Last year was Super Bowl or bust, the point of taking Jimmie Ward was because 49ers had a Super Bowl caliber roster that was missing ONE thing if Harbaugh could get the offense clicking again.

Lol all you want to, they've still been better than Ward. Three weeks means nothing to be honest, I don't to see consistent performance and three weeks out of a season isn't consistent.

Missing one thing? We had an extremely suspect passing offense, taking a QB or WR of the future would only help that situation by adding depth and competition.

[I_am_1z]

I don't get mad at Tomsula for missed tackles. What proves he is woefully unprepared to be a head coach is look at his time management. Watch How flat the team comes out on the road? The horrible challenges , bad game planning First half every game I can tell you the play calls run run pass punt... Some of it is on the players but even the Cardinals came out and said it they knew what was coming. It is obvious to anyone with a modicum of football knowledge and isn't blinded by Homerism that Tomsula is miles out of his league as a head coach. Again you ask why Dontae isnt getting played over Acker, Why Tiller wasn't replacing Devey, WHy Pears is playing hello Coaching. Tomsula saying we had good energy all week and getting blown out by teams like the BROWNS.. the blame is partly on the players but the coaching has been downright awful.

Vent frustration towards the right flaws, don't be blinded by your own fury.

Do you think Tomsula has done an adequate job this year? Sure, he had a lot going against him, but he's looked totally lost out there.

Personnel wise he and the staff have done terribly IMO. Slowly, that's being corrected. He's kept this awful team together, no one other than Kaepernick has been called out somehow. As far as time management, I really haven't noticed anything criminal, he's much better than his predecessor in that regard. Challenges, have more to do with the people upstairs. Coughlin was/maybe still is awful at challenging calls on the field. He can coach an 8-8 destined team to an 8-8 record, there's nothing special about him that I've seen. Better not jump the gun and fire him—if it were me as GM, I'm going strong after McDaniels as HC.

[I_am_1z]

Wait so Ward has a few games where he plays well and all the sudden he's worth a first round pick? He's had a few good games so let's forget that the likes of: Derek Carr, Jordan Matthews and Bradley Roby were picked after him.

Bradley Roby and Jordan Matthews lol.

He's had an excellent 3 consecutive weeks—best in the league (according to PFF) and other than the offsides didn't notice him in the Lions game which is likely means he had a decent game in Detriot as well. He had another good game against Randall Cobb and the Packers. A guy coming off a lower extremity injury playing out of position is going to take time to develop. Last year was Super Bowl or bust, the point of taking Jimmie Ward was because 49ers had a Super Bowl caliber roster that was missing ONE thing if Harbaugh could get the offense clicking again.

Lol all you want to, they've still been better than Ward. Three weeks means nothing to be honest, I don't to see consistent performance and three weeks out of a season isn't consistent.

Missing one thing? We had an extremely suspect passing offense, taking a QB or WR of the future would only help that situation by adding depth and competition.

Getting no credit as a CB is quite typical. A WR like Jordan Matthews—if he posts a 3 week span where he was rated the best in the NFL, everyone takes note, but when you're a slot corner not out on the field every play people overlook you. PFF's ratings are based play by play. Jimmie's not even on the field every play so he missed opportunities to have an even better rating (since it's not like QB ratings).

Super Bowl or Bust was the motto last year. As I've said before T. Bridgewater or Allen Robinson would have probably been my selection in the first round, but when you're going all in to get to the Super Bowl, taking a QB in the first round is hypocritical. We had a bunch of receivers last year, but no #1 receiver (Lloyd, Johnson, Boldin, Crabtree). Totally understood Ward, though I expected him to beat out Bethea for safety, but the team clearly had a secondary problem.

[Dodub]

Bradley Roby and Jordan Matthews lol.

He's had an excellent 3 consecutive weeks—best in the league (according to PFF) and other than the offsides didn't notice him in the Lions game which is likely means he had a decent game in Detriot as well. He had another good game against Randall Cobb and the Packers. A guy coming off a lower extremity injury playing out of position is going to take time to develop. Last year was Super Bowl or bust, the point of taking Jimmie Ward was because 49ers had a Super Bowl caliber roster that was missing ONE thing if Harbaugh could get the offense clicking again.

Lol all you want to, they've still been better than Ward. Three weeks means nothing to be honest, I don't to see consistent performance and three weeks out of a season isn't consistent.

Missing one thing? We had an extremely suspect passing offense, taking a QB or WR of the future would only help that situation by adding depth and competition.

Getting no credit as a CB is quite typical. A WR like Jordan Matthews—if he posts a 3 week span where he was rated the best in the NFL, everyone takes note, but when you're a slot corner not out on the field every play people overlook you. PFF's ratings are based play by play. Jimmie's not even on the field every play so he missed opportunities to have an even better rating (since it's not like QB ratings).

Super Bowl or Bust was the motto last year. As I've said before T. Bridgewater or Allen Robinson would have probably been my selection in the first round, but when you're going all in to get to the Super Bowl, taking a QB in the first round is hypocritical. We had a bunch of receivers last year, but no #1 receiver (Lloyd, Johnson, Boldin, Crabtree). Totally understood Ward, though I expected him to beat out Bethea for safety, but the team clearly had a secondary problem.

I'm not "giving no credit" unlike you I would like to see more than a few weeks of good play before I anoint a player. Those other players have been better through their short careers period. I'm also not writing him off as he could put together a very good career.

Not being on the field every play also takes away opportunities to have a worse rating as well, it goes both ways.

[I_am_1z]

Lol all you want to, they've still been better than Ward. Three weeks means nothing to be honest, I don't to see consistent performance and three weeks out of a season isn't consistent.

Missing one thing? We had an extremely suspect passing offense, taking a QB or WR of the future would only help that situation by adding depth and competition.

Getting no credit as a CB is quite typical. A WR like Jordan Matthews—if he posts a 3 week span where he was rated the best in the NFL, everyone takes note, but when you're a slot corner not out on the field every play people overlook you. PFF's ratings are based play by play. Jimmie's not even on the field every play so he missed opportunities to have an even better rating (since it's not like QB ratings).

Super Bowl or Bust was the motto last year. As I've said before T. Bridgewater or Allen Robinson would have probably been my selection in the first round, but when you're going all in to get to the Super Bowl, taking a QB in the first round is hypocritical. We had a bunch of receivers last year, but no #1 receiver (Lloyd, Johnson, Boldin, Crabtree). Totally understood Ward, though I expected him to beat out Bethea for safety, but the team clearly had a secondary problem.

I'm not "giving no credit" unlike you I would like to see more than a few weeks of good play before I anoint a player. Those other players have been better through their short careers period. I'm also not writing him off as he could put together a very good career.

Not being on the field every play also takes away opportunities to have a worse rating as well, it goes both ways.

If you're not going to read what I posted, I'm just going to end this chain of replies here.

[Dodub]

Getting no credit as a CB is quite typical. A WR like Jordan Matthews—if he posts a 3 week span where he was rated the best in the NFL, everyone takes note, but when you're a slot corner not out on the field every play people overlook you. PFF's ratings are based play by play. Jimmie's not even on the field every play so he missed opportunities to have an even better rating (since it's not like QB ratings).

Super Bowl or Bust was the motto last year. As I've said before T. Bridgewater or Allen Robinson would have probably been my selection in the first round, but when you're going all in to get to the Super Bowl, taking a QB in the first round is hypocritical. We had a bunch of receivers last year, but no #1 receiver (Lloyd, Johnson, Boldin, Crabtree). Totally understood Ward, though I expected him to beat out Bethea for safety, but the team clearly had a secondary problem.

I'm not "giving no credit" unlike you I would like to see more than a few weeks of good play before I anoint a player. Those other players have been better through their short careers period. I'm also not writing him off as he could put together a very good career.

Not being on the field every play also takes away opportunities to have a worse rating as well, it goes both ways.

If you're not going to read what I posted, I'm just going to end this chain of replies here.

I read exactly what you posted. If you don't like my reply then that's on you tbh.