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Post#461 » by ChrisPozz » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:29 am

Ray_Dogg wrote:So we just hired the Colts safeties coach Roy Anderson. He has done some solid work. I like this hire. Not sure what his position will be.


Defensive backs assistant to Hafley. Same role he had when he was with the Ravens (before the Colts). Has strong ties to Bethea, who has talked well about Anderson in the past.

Also has experience as a DL coach and his first role with the Ravens was as a personnel assistant helping evaluate draftable players, players in free agency, making phone calls for players on the trade block, and scheduling tryouts.

He also coached LSU wide receivers (Dwayne Bowe and Early Doucet) and quarterbacks at Florida A&M. He played QB at Howard. His personality sort of reminds me of Mike Tomlin's. Very interesting hire. Love his background and make up. Kind of reminds me of some of my younger coaching friends (on a much smaller scale).
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Re: 49ers Hire Chip Kelly as Head Coach of the 49ers!!!! 

Post#462 » by wartyOne » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:13 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Not meant as a defense of O'Neill, who seems like a real head-scratcher of a pick, but it is worth noting that he was without both starting CBs from 2014 (Skrine left and Haden injured most of the year) and was breaking in a rookie NT who didn't really hold up. And Dansby and Whitner, while still good players, are getting up there in age (I'm actually surprised to see Whitner is only 30; thought he was a couple years older than that).

Not at all optimistic about the D this year, but I guess we'll see. Given Chip Kelly's offense, I don't mind a more aggressive and opportunistic unit, but it's hard to see this team challenging Seattle or Arizona any time soon....


Challenging might be a bit of a stretch. I think the only way they compete with those two teams over the next three years is if Arizona or Seattle are involved in a plane crash. Even then, it might depend on where the game is played.

While Kelly is arguably a better coach than Tomsula (why do I get the sneaking suspicion that this comparison is akin to which smells better between used diapers and two-day-old-vomit?), I don't see any upgrades at any of the other coaching spots over last year. This isn't an endorsement of Baalke's assembled 2015 staff.

I wasn't a fan of last year's hires because they were so obviously ridiculous. The bright side in all of this is that I don't think Baalke is going to survive too much longer. Of course, that depends on Jed waking the hell up. I don't buy one bit of his press conference, and everything I was concerned about that he said is now playing itself out. I guess we'll see. The staff is locked and loaded, so there's not much we can do about it now, except hope.

The problem with that for me is that this ownership group has been exploiting the hope of this fanbase for so long that I simply see a boy (Jed) crying wolf (press conference). Until he actually does something that makes football sense before it makes financial sense (which is ludicrous; how much more money could this franchise make in jersey sales alone if they were relevant on the field), I'm not going to fully buy in. I'm VERY glad I'm not one of the poor bastards that bought a PSL on the premise that Harbaugh had this team primed to make post-season runs every year. I'd consider faking my own death to get out of that nonsense now. You certainly can't sell those damn things for equivalent value these days.
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Re: 49ers Hire Chip Kelly as Head Coach of the 49ers!!!! 

Post#463 » by wartyOne » Fri Jan 29, 2016 6:37 am

Jikkle wrote:The only positive I can think of with O'Neil is he's a young coordinator and he has a lot of room to grow as a coach. So there is hope that he can improve and continue to tweak and refine his scheme. Hopefully he looks back in what went wrong with the Browns and tweaks what he does.

Like with Mangini I don't mind players struggling with complexity of a new scheme for a year as the learning curve is just high and not impossible. There is some value in causing QBs to struggle dissecting a defense and the one critique I had with Fangio was he relied heavily on talent and not so much in a scheme to confuse opposing QBs.

The reality is that under Chip having a top 5 defense just isn't going to happen and it doesn't need to happen for the team to be successful. If you're great on one side of the ball you can afford to just be good on the other and as long as the defense in the 10-15 range and is good about creating turnovers team can be a contender.


Except that in 2013 Philly ranked 29th in YPG allowed 17th in PPG (this was the team he inherited that went 10-6 and won a crappy NFCE). In 2014 Philly ranked 28th in YPG allowed, and tied for 22nd in PPG. In 2015, Philly ranked 30th in YPG allowed and 28th in PPG allowed (playing against the embarrassingly weak NFCE, the AFCE, the NFCS, and Detroit/Arizona). They got blown the hell out in consecutive games by Tampa Bay (in their own house, no less) and Detroit.

It's not that Kelly's defenses were a little subpar in Philly. They were AWFUL. We can have the best offense EVER (and I'm not saying we do, or will under this FO and coaching staff), and there won't be enough defense for this team to legitimately compete.
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Re: 49ers Hire Chip Kelly as Head Coach of the 49ers!!!! 

Post#464 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:45 pm

wartyOne wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Not meant as a defense of O'Neill, who seems like a real head-scratcher of a pick, but it is worth noting that he was without both starting CBs from 2014 (Skrine left and Haden injured most of the year) and was breaking in a rookie NT who didn't really hold up. And Dansby and Whitner, while still good players, are getting up there in age (I'm actually surprised to see Whitner is only 30; thought he was a couple years older than that).

Not at all optimistic about the D this year, but I guess we'll see. Given Chip Kelly's offense, I don't mind a more aggressive and opportunistic unit, but it's hard to see this team challenging Seattle or Arizona any time soon....


Challenging might be a bit of a stretch. I think the only way they compete with those two teams over the next three years is if Arizona or Seattle are involved in a plane crash. Even then, it might depend on where the game is played.

While Kelly is arguably a better coach than Tomsula (why do I get the sneaking suspicion that this comparison is akin to which smells better between used diapers and two-day-old-vomit?), I don't see any upgrades at any of the other coaching spots over last year. This isn't an endorsement of Baalke's assembled 2015 staff.

I wasn't a fan of last year's hires because they were so obviously ridiculous. The bright side in all of this is that I don't think Baalke is going to survive too much longer. Of course, that depends on Jed waking the hell up. I don't buy one bit of his press conference, and everything I was concerned about that he said is now playing itself out. I guess we'll see. The staff is locked and loaded, so there's not much we can do about it now, except hope.

The problem with that for me is that this ownership group has been exploiting the hope of this fanbase for so long that I simply see a boy (Jed) crying wolf (press conference). Until he actually does something that makes football sense before it makes financial sense (which is ludicrous; how much more money could this franchise make in jersey sales alone if they were relevant on the field), I'm not going to fully buy in. I'm VERY glad I'm not one of the poor bastards that bought a PSL on the premise that Harbaugh had this team primed to make post-season runs every year. I'd consider faking my own death to get out of that nonsense now. You certainly can't sell those damn things for equivalent value these days.


I see upgrades at the OL and WR coaches and DLine. This team was heading south under Harbaugh and it quite possibly going to start missing the playoffs under him.
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Post#465 » by wco81 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 7:21 pm

Arizona has some key older players like Palmer. Campbell is turning 30 and who knows how long he can keep up his play.

Seattle has the young stars in Wilson and Sherman and Thomas are just in their mid to late 20s. And Wagner and Wright are young too. However, the front 7 are playing physical and dominating but key players like Bennett and Avril are hitting 30.

There was a question of whether some of the stars relaxed, unconsciously, after getting their big contracts. I think that would have definitely been the case if they won the second SB. But now, blowing the one last year and starting out slow this season, they may make one big push next year.

Win or lose, it may be hard for them to sustain the chip on the shoulder hunger that they've displayed. Plus some guys like Chancellor may have been exposed in coverage and he's also unhappy about his contract. Seattle may ship him out. Meanwhile, for their OL, they may let Okung go unless he gives them a huge home team discount, though for a high pick at LT, he hasn't really played up to expectations.

A couple of good drafts and free agency moves could flip the tables in a couple of seasons.
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Post#466 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Jan 29, 2016 9:14 pm

wco81 wrote:Arizona has some key older players like Palmer. Campbell is turning 30 and who knows how long he can keep up his play.

Seattle has the young stars in Wilson and Sherman and Thomas are just in their mid to late 20s. And Wagner and Wright are young too. However, the front 7 are playing physical and dominating but key players like Bennett and Avril are hitting 30.

There was a question of whether some of the stars relaxed, unconsciously, after getting their big contracts. I think that would have definitely been the case if they won the second SB. But now, blowing the one last year and starting out slow this season, they may make one big push next year.

Win or lose, it may be hard for them to sustain the chip on the shoulder hunger that they've displayed. Plus some guys like Chancellor may have been exposed in coverage and he's also unhappy about his contract. Seattle may ship him out. Meanwhile, for their OL, they may let Okung go unless he gives them a huge home team discount, though for a high pick at LT, he hasn't really played up to expectations.

A couple of good drafts and free agency moves could flip the tables in a couple of seasons.


Good assessment. I also think Seattle has overall been pretty lucky with injuries thus far. The past couple of seasons they have some guys nicked up but haven't yet had a season filled with serious injuries and players being put on IR. With football, the law of averages says that will happen to them at some point.

They will be fighting the cap going into the future and Wilson's contract is going to have a significant impact on their cap moving forward.
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Post#467 » by generaldreedle » Sat Jan 30, 2016 4:33 pm

Seattle has decisions to make-- Kam Chancellor is likely gone, Marshawn Lynch is gone, Bennett may be gone as well. The departure of Lynch can't be overlooked -- he was durable and a beast and thrived on yards after contact (so he hid the deficiencies of the o line), and that type of back is hard to replace, as the 49ers and the Seahawks found out this year. Kam was monumentally important to that defense when he was healthy and on his game. Also Okung is likely to get a better offer elsewhere. SO think about this; Seattle-- a physical pounding team, is likely to lose their bruising RB, their bone crushing safety, and their best o lineman. The rb replacement Rawls got injured this year, so they don't know if he is a full season every down back and he's not as physical as Lynch, they don't have someone to replace Kam because he is unique, and they have been terrible at picking lineman in the draft or free agency. I think the Seahawks will slip next year because they won't be able to be as physically punishing as they have been in the past.
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Post#468 » by Pattersonca65 » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:07 am

generaldreedle wrote:Seattle has decisions to make-- Kam Chancellor is likely gone, Marshawn Lynch is gone, Bennett may be gone as well. The departure of Lynch can't be overlooked -- he was durable and a beast and thrived on yards after contact (so he hid the deficiencies of the o line), and that type of back is hard to replace, as the 49ers and the Seahawks found out this year. Kam was monumentally important to that defense when he was healthy and on his game. Also Okung is likely to get a better offer elsewhere. SO think about this; Seattle-- a physical pounding team, is likely to lose their bruising RB, their bone crushing safety, and their best o lineman. The rb replacement Rawls got injured this year, so they don't know if he is a full season every down back and he's not as physical as Lynch, they don't have someone to replace Kam because he is unique, and they have been terrible at picking lineman in the draft or free agency. I think the Seahawks will slip next year because they won't be able to be as physically punishing as they have been in the past.


Why would Chancellor be gone? Doesn't he have more years on his contrct?
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Post#469 » by generaldreedle » Sun Jan 31, 2016 5:25 am

The word here in Seattle is that he's gone one way or another,
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Post#470 » by Dodub » Sat Feb 6, 2016 3:43 am

It's being reported that Mike Nolan wanted to join Chip Kelly's staff as DC.
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Post#471 » by Ray_Dogg » Sun Feb 7, 2016 2:54 am

Dodub wrote:It's being reported that Mike Nolan wanted to join Chip Kelly's staff as DC.


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Post#472 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sun Feb 28, 2016 12:49 pm

Bruce Ellington - WR - 49ers

49ers coach Chip Kelly is "intrigued" by Bruce Ellington.

"That kid can do some interesting things," said Kelly. "It's our job to figure out how we can use that to benefit us to help us win games." Ellington has mostly played on special teams since getting drafted in 2014 but that could change under Kelly, who is partial to using three-receiver sets. Kelly is also interested in employing Ellington out of the backfield. With top receiver Anquan Boldin headed for free agency, there's a chance Ellington will be more involved in 2016.
Source: Sacramento Bee

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Post#473 » by CalamityX12 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:11 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/975TheFanatic/status/720606273822203904[/tweet]

Not sure how credible but is this mind blowing to anyone???
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Post#474 » by Jikkle » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:36 pm

CalamityX12 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/975TheFanatic/status/720606273822203904[/tweet]

Not sure how credible but is this mind blowing to anyone???


Not much of a shock to me as I got the impression Chip was more a Gamble and York choice and Baalke really wanted Payton or Coughlin. But when he lost out on both of those guys he had no choice to go with Chip.

But the question is if there are problems how serious are they? Given their personalities it was never going to perfect relationship and disagreements were bound to happen but are they just typically not seeing eye to eye like a typical coach/gm relationship is bound to happen or do they run deeper.
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Post#475 » by ChrisPozz » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:13 am

CalamityX12 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/975TheFanatic/status/720606273822203904[/tweet]

Not sure how credible but is this mind blowing to anyone???



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/15/are-chip-kelly-and-trent-baalke-already-feuding/

So I’ll wait until a reporter from NFL Network or ESPN or FOX Sports or CSNBayArea.com or the Sacramento Bee or the Bay Area News Group or the San Francisco Chronicle reports this before concluding that it’s true. Or I’ll wait until I’ve heard the same something from a sufficiently reliable source or sources.

If one is thinking that the above link is another story about a possible rift I have provided a segment of what Florio's take is.
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Post#476 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:23 pm

If there's tension between them I bet it is because of their differing views / philosophy in dealing with the draft & our current QB situation (major crisis).

Chip seems to me like the type to somewhat want to do whatever it takes to get JaredWentz. He's a bit more aggressive or impulsive, however you want to categorize his draft style. Whereas Baalke is somewhat way too conservative in wanting to move up to get QBs. Or too stubborn in not trying to trade away Kaepernick who everyone knows does not want to be here.

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