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Post#21 » by ChrisPozz » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:40 pm

Bald Bull wrote:first overall pick is safe in our hands for another week


And many of those folks in that boat are setting themselves up for major disappointment IMO. Some of which would probably acknowledge that. Some of which probably on multiple levels (eventual player, unreasonable trade expectations/eventual non-haul/smaller haul that's out there, etc.).

There'll be a better time to get into it but all I'd say is be careful placing a large chunk of your happiness into what happens in April.
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Post#22 » by Ray_Dogg » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:42 pm

ChrisPozz wrote:
Bald Bull wrote:first overall pick is safe in our hands for another week


And many of those folks in that boat are setting themselves up for major disappointment IMO. Some of which would probably acknowledge that. Some of which probably on multiple levels (eventual player, unreasonable trade expectations/eventual non-haul/smaller haul that's out there, etc.).

There'll be a better time to get into it but all I'd say is be careful placing a large chunk of your happiness into what happens in April.


Because Lynch will do another horrible job?
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Post#23 » by Ray_Dogg » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:48 pm

Just wanted to shout out Ward. Possibly the most fragile player in NFL history.
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Post#24 » by Ray_Dogg » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:48 pm

Also Solly Thomas. Please retire.
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Post#25 » by Ray_Dogg » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:50 pm

Also the announcers. Apparently Rick Grimes left The Walking Dead to play for the Buccs.
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Post#26 » by Bald Bull » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:52 pm

horrible decision by mullens on that int
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Post#27 » by ChrisPozz » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:54 pm

Ray_Dogg wrote:
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Bald Bull wrote:first overall pick is safe in our hands for another week


And many of those folks in that boat are setting themselves up for major disappointment IMO. Some of which would probably acknowledge that. Some of which probably on multiple levels (eventual player, unreasonable trade expectations/eventual non-haul/smaller haul that's out there, etc.).

There'll be a better time to get into it but all I'd say is be careful placing a large chunk of your happiness into what happens in April.


Because Lynch will do another horrible job?


I think many will come to that conclusion, yes.

I also think many will think there'll be a magical offer to trade down and that may not be the case. Related to that I also think there's a strong possibility a good chunk of Niners supporters will believe there's a deal out there they should take that actually isn't out there the way they think it is. There'll be a SUB group within THAT group that are delusional that'll think they didn't try hard enough to move down (from whatever spot) and fail to back it up with anything that can be confirmed.

There's multiple ways I think the pro-tank crowd could end up being disappointed in the end. I've just been saying to be careful tying one's happiness into the first/a high pick for those reasons.
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Post#28 » by Bald Bull » Sun Nov 25, 2018 8:57 pm

ChrisPozz wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:
And many of those folks in that boat are setting themselves up for major disappointment IMO. Some of which would probably acknowledge that. Some of which probably on multiple levels (eventual player, unreasonable trade expectations/eventual non-haul/smaller haul that's out there, etc.).

There'll be a better time to get into it but all I'd say is be careful placing a large chunk of your happiness into what happens in April.


Because Lynch will do another horrible job?


I think many will come to that conclusion, yes.

I also think many will think there'll be a magical offer to trade down and that may not be the case. Related to that I also think there's a strong possibility a good chunk of Niners supporters will believe there's a deal out there they should take that actually isn't out there the way they think it is. There'll be a SUB group within THAT group that are delusional that'll think they didn't try hard enough to move down (from whatever spot) and fail to back it up with anything that can be confirmed.

There's multiple ways I think the pro-tank crowd could end up being disappointed in the end. I've just been saying to be careful tying one's happiness into the first/a high pick for those reasons.


i'm not pro-tank, i'd like to see this team play good football. It's just a matter of accepting reality at this point, the high draft pick is all i have to look forward to the way the team is playing.
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Post#29 » by ChrisPozz » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:01 pm

Bald Bull wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:
Because Lynch will do another horrible job?


I think many will come to that conclusion, yes.

I also think many will think there'll be a magical offer to trade down and that may not be the case. Related to that I also think there's a strong possibility a good chunk of Niners supporters will believe there's a deal out there they should take that actually isn't out there the way they think it is. There'll be a SUB group within THAT group that are delusional that'll think they didn't try hard enough to move down (from whatever spot) and fail to back it up with anything that can be confirmed.

There's multiple ways I think the pro-tank crowd could end up being disappointed in the end. I've just been saying to be careful tying one's happiness into the first/a high pick for those reasons.


i'm not pro-tank, i'd like to see this team play good football. It's just a matter of accepting reality at this point, the high draft pick is all i have to look forward to the way the team is playing.


If the high pick excites you, cool. I'm just saying there's a whole lot to be decided EVEN AFTER the draft number is decided and much of it doesn't end or might not end in candy and rainbows for some folks. If you're one of the ones that acknowledges that, great.

I just think there's often a whole lot of football crazy in some of the folks that go pro-tank mode this time of year. Maybe I should stick away from pointing it out or even going there but.......
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Post#30 » by Ray_Dogg » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:01 pm

ChrisPozz wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:
And many of those folks in that boat are setting themselves up for major disappointment IMO. Some of which would probably acknowledge that. Some of which probably on multiple levels (eventual player, unreasonable trade expectations/eventual non-haul/smaller haul that's out there, etc.).

There'll be a better time to get into it but all I'd say is be careful placing a large chunk of your happiness into what happens in April.


Because Lynch will do another horrible job?


I think many will come to that conclusion, yes.

I also think many will think there'll be a magical offer to trade down and that may not be the case. Related to that I also think there's a strong possibility a good chunk of Niners supporters will believe there's a deal out there they should take that actually isn't out there the way they think it is. There'll be a SUB group within THAT group that are delusional that'll think they didn't try hard enough to move down (from whatever spot) and fail to back it up with anything that can be confirmed.

There's multiple ways I think the pro-tank crowd could end up being disappointed in the end. I've just been saying to be careful tying one's happiness into the first/a high pick for those reasons.


I agree there will be no trade down market because again we have the luck. No QB at the top. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. I still don’t think we get the top pick anyway.
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Re: Week 10 - 49ers at Bucs 1:00pm ET 

Post#31 » by ChrisPozz » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:08 pm

Ray_Dogg wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:
Because Lynch will do another horrible job?


I think many will come to that conclusion, yes.

I also think many will think there'll be a magical offer to trade down and that may not be the case. Related to that I also think there's a strong possibility a good chunk of Niners supporters will believe there's a deal out there they should take that actually isn't out there the way they think it is. There'll be a SUB group within THAT group that are delusional that'll think they didn't try hard enough to move down (from whatever spot) and fail to back it up with anything that can be confirmed.

There's multiple ways I think the pro-tank crowd could end up being disappointed in the end. I've just been saying to be careful tying one's happiness into the first/a high pick for those reasons.


I agree there will be no trade down market because again we have the luck. No QB at the top. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. I still don’t think we get the top pick anyway.


We agree on that part (in bold). Somehow.

The conversation I'm having with myself these days when I sit and think about it during the week is will the Kyle Shanahan factor be a leading factor in one of these last games that leads to a win. Like the Raiders game. That was a Kyle Shanahan game where I thought it was clear he was the biggest piece of the pie why they won that game. Is Kyle going to have one of those games left in the year?

I've said my piece on what I think Kyle is and what I'd do if I were the one in charge but I think about what type of value you could place on a win or multiple wins if it's one of those Kyle Shanahan is the largest piece of the pie in getting the win type of results. There should be some value in that vs. looking awful to sew up the number one overall pick.

Again, I'm not saying one is definitely worth one over the other and how you feel about Kyle as a coach definitely plays a part in it but it shouldn't be looked at as an either/or situation. His affect on these remaining games plays a part into the equation of wins vs. 1st pick, 2nd pick, 3rd pick, etc.. And what exactly he shows in those games is another thing as well. Ideally you'd like it to be things that are sustainable things for the future IF you're rooting for him to succeed.

Hopefully that makes sense. It's a complicated situation and not as clear as it's made to seem sometimes. And that's not even addressing the Lynch stuff and how he plays into the pick - whatever one it is.
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Post#32 » by Bald Bull » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:08 pm

richie james always moves the ball for big gains, why isnt he on the field more!
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Re: Week 10 - 49ers at Bucs 1:00pm ET 

Post#33 » by Bald Bull » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:13 pm

Ray_Dogg wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:
Ray_Dogg wrote:
Because Lynch will do another horrible job?


I think many will come to that conclusion, yes.

I also think many will think there'll be a magical offer to trade down and that may not be the case. Related to that I also think there's a strong possibility a good chunk of Niners supporters will believe there's a deal out there they should take that actually isn't out there the way they think it is. There'll be a SUB group within THAT group that are delusional that'll think they didn't try hard enough to move down (from whatever spot) and fail to back it up with anything that can be confirmed.

There's multiple ways I think the pro-tank crowd could end up being disappointed in the end. I've just been saying to be careful tying one's happiness into the first/a high pick for those reasons.


I agree there will be no trade down market because again we have the luck. No QB at the top. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. I still don’t think we get the top pick anyway.


our remaining games are seahawks twice, broncos, bears, and rams.

Bronocos are the only team we might have a chance of getting a win against. keeping the top pick is a strong possiblity
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Re: Week 10 - 49ers at Bucs 1:00pm ET 

Post#34 » by RIPskaterdude » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:13 pm

#1 pick looking good
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Re: Week 10 - 49ers at Bucs 1:00pm ET 

Post#35 » by Bald Bull » Sun Nov 25, 2018 9:36 pm

ChrisPozz wrote:
Bald Bull wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:
I think many will come to that conclusion, yes.

I also think many will think there'll be a magical offer to trade down and that may not be the case. Related to that I also think there's a strong possibility a good chunk of Niners supporters will believe there's a deal out there they should take that actually isn't out there the way they think it is. There'll be a SUB group within THAT group that are delusional that'll think they didn't try hard enough to move down (from whatever spot) and fail to back it up with anything that can be confirmed.

There's multiple ways I think the pro-tank crowd could end up being disappointed in the end. I've just been saying to be careful tying one's happiness into the first/a high pick for those reasons.


i'm not pro-tank, i'd like to see this team play good football. It's just a matter of accepting reality at this point, the high draft pick is all i have to look forward to the way the team is playing.


If the high pick excites you, cool. I'm just saying there's a whole lot to be decided EVEN AFTER the draft number is decided and much of it doesn't end or might not end in candy and rainbows for some folks. If you're one of the ones that acknowledges that, great.

I just think there's often a whole lot of football crazy in some of the folks that go pro-tank mode this time of year. Maybe I should stick away from pointing it out or even going there but.......


there is no rainbows and candy for me, i don't have any draft expectations, other than the hope of possibly adding a good player. i dont care if we keep the pick or trade it. I've never been much of a draft prediction maker.

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