Ray_Dogg wrote:ChrisPozz wrote:Ray_Dogg wrote:
Because Lynch will do another horrible job?
I think many will come to that conclusion, yes.
I also think many will think there'll be a magical offer to trade down and that may not be the case. Related to that I also think there's a strong possibility a good chunk of Niners supporters will believe there's a deal out there they should take that actually isn't out there the way they think it is. There'll be a SUB group within THAT group that are delusional that'll think they didn't try hard enough to move down (from whatever spot) and fail to back it up with anything that can be confirmed.
There's multiple ways I think the pro-tank crowd could end up being disappointed in the end. I've just been saying to be careful tying one's happiness into the first/a high pick for those reasons.
I agree there will be no trade down market because again we have the luck. No QB at the top. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
I still don’t think we get the top pick anyway.
We agree on that part (in bold). Somehow.
The conversation I'm having with myself these days when I sit and think about it during the week is will the Kyle Shanahan factor be a leading factor in one of these last games that leads to a win. Like the Raiders game. That was a Kyle Shanahan game where I thought it was clear he was the biggest piece of the pie why they won that game. Is Kyle going to have one of those games left in the year?
I've said my piece on what I think Kyle is and what I'd do if I were the one in charge but I think about what type of value you could place on a win or multiple wins if it's one of those Kyle Shanahan is the largest piece of the pie in getting the win type of results. There should be some value in that vs. looking awful to sew up the number one overall pick.
Again, I'm not saying one is definitely worth one over the other and how you feel about Kyle as a coach definitely plays a part in it but it shouldn't be looked at as an either/or situation. His affect on these remaining games plays a part into the equation of wins vs. 1st pick, 2nd pick, 3rd pick, etc.. And what exactly he shows in those games is another thing as well. Ideally you'd like it to be things that are sustainable things for the future IF you're rooting for him to succeed.
Hopefully that makes sense. It's a complicated situation and not as clear as it's made to seem sometimes. And that's not even addressing the Lynch stuff and how he plays into the pick - whatever one it is.