GDT: wk 2 49ers at NY Jets

[Samurai]

Fortunately the 9ers schedule isn't all that scary for the next several weeks.

@ Giants
vs Eagles
vs Dolphins
vs Rams
@ Patriots

Hopefully they can weather this current storm of injuries and emerge from that stretch with a 5-2 record, or at least 4-3. During that stretch we should start to get some important guys back (Kittle, Garoppolo, Mostert, Deebo, Sherman, maybe even Richburg) and hopefully see them have some time to get back into game form. Sadly it seems we won't see Bosa come back at all this season.

Because after that schedule ramps up drastically with:

@ Seattle
vs Packers
@ Saints
@ Rams

That stretch is going to determine what the outlook of the team is this season, and all 4 of those games will be critical to postseason implications. 49ers really need to start this stretch with a winning record and trending towards becoming healthy. If they don't emerge from that stretch at least 6-5, the season will likely be lost.

Given our current depth chart, or lack thereof, I think all of these games will be difficult. Including next week on the same turf.

[CrimsonCrew]

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He's not playing next week

Good, Seems to have dodged a bullet there. High ankle sprains have the tendency to linger and require a few week recovery, but it definitely could have been worse, considering we never saw him again after getting Xrays.

Since Jimmy is not a running/mobile QB, a high ankle sprain won't impare him as much as it would with some other QB's.

A high ankle sprain is bad. Can be worse than a break.

[CrimsonCrew]

Jimmy G could be out 4-6 weeks

Why us man? Seriously? I don’t see us recovering from losing Bosa & Thomas

The good news is that we have a really easy schedule for the next few weeks. Though it may not matter.

[Jikkle]

Season is feeling like 2019 all over again with injuries just decimating the team.

I'm not overly optimistic about the season with the Bosa injury but it's not completely a knockout blow either it's just you need other elements of the team to step up and that might be asking too much.

The offense will have to play even better and oddly enough I thought Jimmy G played better after he got injured. It was almost like some mental hurdle was knocked down because he had no choice but to get the ball out and make tough throws with some zip on them. So their is a glimmer of hope once everyone on offense is back and in sync.

Dee Ford is going to have to stay healthy and find his 2019 form. If he can stay on the field and be effective that will at least provide a serviceable pass rush. In a way we as fans got somewhat spoiled with the pass rush we saw last season and your pass rush doesn't have to be THAT great to win in the NFL.

But again this is just a positive spin on what aren't great odds especially with the NFC West with everyone except the 9ers coming out looking good.

[GS Warriors 1]

Tough game to watch with the injuries on the 49ers. Bosa is going to be a big blow to this defense, expect defensive inconsistency with him out. Like what I've seen so far with Hyder Jr., his role is going to increase for the rest of the season. Feels like they need to add another pass rusher now.

Garoppolo played as well as he could have with the ankle sprain. Mostert is probably in a similar situation as Garoppolo given injury timeframe, Coleman also got hurt. I think McKinnon looks good in his role, but he'll have to be used in an increased role along with Wilson. Nick Mullens was very shaky to start, bad pass to McKinnon on the pick, throw looked pretty high. Jordan Reed had a good connection with Garoppolo. The talent is obvious even with the past injuries, he's going to probably be the #1 target next week for Mullens and that is a matchup they can exploit vs the Giants.

[thesack12]

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He's not playing next week

Good, Seems to have dodged a bullet there. High ankle sprains have the tendency to linger and require a few week recovery, but it definitely could have been worse, considering we never saw him again after getting Xrays.

Since Jimmy is not a running/mobile QB, a high ankle sprain won't impare him as much as it would with some other QB's.

A high ankle sprain is bad. Can be worse than a break.

All depends on the severity, how long it takes the swelling to subside, etc. There is some hope that it might not overly severe, since he played almost a full half of football after it happened.

Also, as I mentioned Jimmy is not a mobile/running type of QB. So lower body injuries might not be as much of a detriment to him as it could be to a Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson. That said, its Jimmy's right ankle that is hurt. So that will affect his plant/push off leg on throws.

So who knows, we'll just have to play the waiting game and hope for the best.

[dr3am]

Jimmy G could be out 4-6 weeks

Why us man? Seriously? I don’t see us recovering from losing Bosa & Thomas

The good news is that we have a really easy schedule for the next few weeks. Though it may not matter.

Even though I give Jimmy G a hard time (still don’t think he’s the answer as far as our franchise QB) I’m not a fan of Mullens at the helm at all... Not even against a Giants team without Barkley.

[wco81]

Last year the 49ers suffered some injuries early in the season and you had all these UDFAs like Mosley and Brunskill step up and play well enough to keep the momentum of the team.

But Bosa and Jimmy are in key positions so no way they are going to be able to replace that productivity.

[CrimsonCrew]

The season isn't over. Even without Bosa, we still have an above-average DL. It could even be pretty good if Ford can get his act together and return to his 2018 form. But we will need to get Sherman back, and our DBs will need to improve their play. Verrett is something of a wild card here. He got pretty mixed reviews in camp, but if he can actually get on the field, he could be an impact player for us.

The offense is the decisive factor in how the season turns out IMO. It was always likely that the D would decline. The question is if the offense can pick up enough slack to cover for that. I think they can, once Garoppolo returns. Aiyuk wasn't very active in this game, but we saw some of the RAC potential on the three times he touched the ball. If he and Samuel can get back to full strength to take over as the starting WRs, with Bourne slotted in as a good number three and Taylor occasionally in the slot, that unit looks much better. McKinnon has already been excelling out of the backfield, and should do more of that with more opportunity. And Kittle and Reed can just destroy coverages from the TE spot. This offense could be really, really good. Like top-3 good. But it's going to take some more stability on the OL, health from the key guys, and Shanahan getting more willing to cut things loose, especially in the red zone.

If nothing else, it should make for a pretty interesting season.

[CrimsonCrew]

Good, Seems to have dodged a bullet there. High ankle sprains have the tendency to linger and require a few week recovery, but it definitely could have been worse, considering we never saw him again after getting Xrays.

Since Jimmy is not a running/mobile QB, a high ankle sprain won't impare him as much as it would with some other QB's.

A high ankle sprain is bad. Can be worse than a break.

All depends on the severity, how long it takes the swelling to subside, etc. There is some hope that it might not overly severe, since he played almost a full half of football after it happened.

Also, as I mentioned Jimmy is not a mobile/running type of QB. So lower body injuries might not be as much of a detriment to him as it could be to a Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson. That said, its Jimmy's right ankle that is hurt. So that will affect his plant/push off leg on throws.

So who knows, we'll just have to play the waiting game and hope for the best.

Of course it depends on a variety of factors. It's very early to say we dodged a bullet. He's not going to miss the season, but that was always pretty unlikely. And he could easily miss a month or more. You're right that he's not a WR or RB, and isn't mobile in general, but he still needs to be able to move. A buddy of mine sprained his ankle badly like a month ago, and he's still hobbling around, barely able to walk out of a boot. Obviously he's not an elite athlete (though certainly questionable whether Garoppolo could be considered an elite athlete, too) and works a job that doesn't allow him to focus 80+% of his energy on recovering quickly, but it can be a very bad injury.

[dr3am]

The season isn't over. Even without Bosa, we still have an above-average DL. It could even be pretty good if Ford can get his act together and return to his 2018 form. But we will need to get Sherman back, and our DBs will need to improve their play. Verrett is something of a wild card here. He got pretty mixed reviews in camp, but if he can actually get on the field, he could be an impact player for us.

The offense is the decisive factor in how the season turns out IMO. It was always likely that the D would decline. The question is if the offense can pick up enough slack to cover for that. I think they can, once Garoppolo returns. Aiyuk wasn't very active in this game, but we saw some of the RAC potential on the three times he touched the ball. If he and Samuel can get back to full strength to take over as the starting WRs, with Bourne slotted in as a good number three and Taylor occasionally in the slot, that unit looks much better. McKinnon has already been excelling out of the backfield, and should do more of that with more opportunity. And Kittle and Reed can just destroy coverages from the TE spot. This offense could be really, really good. Like top-3 good. But it's going to take some more stability on the OL, health from the key guys, and Shanahan getting more willing to cut things loose, especially in the red zone.

If nothing else, it should make for a pretty interesting season.

You’re right, now it’s time (mainly me) to keep the faith! As long as we make it in the playoffs, that’s all that matters.

[thesack12]

Does Kyle have some kind of medical waiver that allows him to not wear a mask? I don't think I've seen him wear it on the sidelines yet this season, and Goodell issued a leaguewide warning about it earlier this week,

He doesn't have a waiver

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Damn, them are some seriously pricey fines.

[49er4life1979]

Good news is Jimmy G has a chance to play this week after Shanny said it was less severe than initially thought. Totally sucks about Bosa as he obviously is the cornerstone of the defense. If I am Shanny, I sit Jimmy G this week considering they are playing again on that same turf. As for the DL, this is where Armstead needs to step up after getting paid 85 million in the offseason. He had a solid game vs Jets with 1 sack, 1 pass defended, and 3 Qb hits. Kinlaw has been wreaking havoc but now needs to convert that into sacks, pressures, hits, etc. DJ Jones rounds out a solid DT rotation. So like someone said earlier, not all hope is lost yet. We picked up Ansah, and Hyder has been decent. We will get Ronald Blair back after week 6 which should definitely help. And of course there is Dee Ford. Oh boy. He's like that Ferrari that's so nice to look at, performs well when its running, but unfortunately is most of the time in the shop. And to top it off, didn't they convert his salary into bonus which would make it harder to cut him later? Am I missing something here?

[Samurai]

Does Kyle have some kind of medical waiver that allows him to not wear a mask? I don't think I've seen him wear it on the sidelines yet this season, and Goodell issued a leaguewide warning about it earlier this week,

He doesn't have a waiver

Read on Twitter

Damn, them are some seriously pricey fines.

Gotta wonder how much of a deterrent this really is. Despite these hefty fines, I noticed coaches of both the Raiders and Saints not wearing masks in the Monday night game.

[wco81]

Good news is Jimmy G has a chance to play this week after Shanny said it was less severe than initially thought. Totally sucks about Bosa as he obviously is the cornerstone of the defense. If I am Shanny, I sit Jimmy G this week considering they are playing again on that same turf. As for the DL, this is where Armstead needs to step up after getting paid 85 million in the offseason. He had a solid game vs Jets with 1 sack, 1 pass defended, and 3 Qb hits. Kinlaw has been wreaking havoc but now needs to convert that into sacks, pressures, hits, etc. DJ Jones rounds out a solid DT rotation. So like someone said earlier, not all hope is lost yet. We picked up Ansah, and Hyder has been decent. We will get Ronald Blair back after week 6 which should definitely help. And of course there is Dee Ford. Oh boy. He's like that Ferrari that's so nice to look at, performs well when its running, but unfortunately is most of the time in the shop. And to top it off, didn't they convert his salary into bonus which would make it harder to cut him later? Am I missing something here?

How long ago was he injured?

At least Bosa was injured earlier in season so he may have a chance to be back by next training camp.

[CrimsonCrew]

Good news is Jimmy G has a chance to play this week after Shanny said it was less severe than initially thought. Totally sucks about Bosa as he obviously is the cornerstone of the defense. If I am Shanny, I sit Jimmy G this week considering they are playing again on that same turf. As for the DL, this is where Armstead needs to step up after getting paid 85 million in the offseason. He had a solid game vs Jets with 1 sack, 1 pass defended, and 3 Qb hits. Kinlaw has been wreaking havoc but now needs to convert that into sacks, pressures, hits, etc. DJ Jones rounds out a solid DT rotation. So like someone said earlier, not all hope is lost yet. We picked up Ansah, and Hyder has been decent. We will get Ronald Blair back after week 6 which should definitely help. And of course there is Dee Ford. Oh boy. He's like that Ferrari that's so nice to look at, performs well when its running, but unfortunately is most of the time in the shop. And to top it off, didn't they convert his salary into bonus which would make it harder to cut him later? Am I missing something here?

How long ago was he injured?

At least Bosa was injured earlier in season so he may have a chance to be back by next training camp.

He tore his ACL on November 12. He should be able to come off PUP, but no guarantees he'll come right off it. Especially the way our training staff has handled that sort of injury lately.

[dr3am]

What’s a scary thought is that Nick Bosa night never be the same player after this torn ACL injury...

[CrimsonCrew]

Season is feeling like 2019 all over again with injuries just decimating the team.

I'm not overly optimistic about the season with the Bosa injury but it's not completely a knockout blow either it's just you need other elements of the team to step up and that might be asking too much.

The offense will have to play even better and oddly enough I thought Jimmy G played better after he got injured. It was almost like some mental hurdle was knocked down because he had no choice but to get the ball out and make tough throws with some zip on them. So their is a glimmer of hope once everyone on offense is back and in sync.

Dee Ford is going to have to stay healthy and find his 2019 form. If he can stay on the field and be effective that will at least provide a serviceable pass rush. In a way we as fans got somewhat spoiled with the pass rush we saw last season and your pass rush doesn't have to be THAT great to win in the NFL.

But again this is just a positive spin on what aren't great odds especially with the NFC West with everyone except the 9ers coming out looking good.

So about that. Good grief. We could be in some trouble. Offense is going to have to start clicking like now.

[wco81]

What’s a scary thought is that Nick Bosa night never be the same player after this torn ACL injury...

I'm sure it won't help his play when he comes back.

But I don't think he relies that much on speed, quickness or athleticism does he?

I think of him mostly engaging with the blocker and then winning hand battles to get by him. Not a speed rush where he turns the corner and does the dip like Von Miller to reach around, usually often to knock the ball out of the QB's hands.

Obviously he never had the explosiveness of Clowney or Chase Young so I think of Nick as mostly using physical technique and leverage to get by larger and still slower tackles.

He also pushes the blocker in a lot to collapse the pockets too, then able to disengage and get by before the tackle can recover.

[Bald Bull]

What’s a scary thought is that Nick Bosa night never be the same player after this torn ACL injury...

I'm sure it won't help his play when he comes back.

But I don't think he relies that much on speed, quickness or athleticism does he?

I think of him mostly engaging with the blocker and then winning hand battles to get by him. Not a speed rush where he turns the corner and does the dip like Von Miller to reach around, usually often to knock the ball out of the QB's hands.

Obviously he never had the explosiveness of Clowney or Chase Young so I think of Nick as mostly using physical technique and leverage to get by larger and still slower tackles.

He also pushes the blocker in a lot to collapse the pockets too, then able to disengage and get by before the tackle can recover.

i agree with this. Speed was never his strength, he even gets pressure when slow off the snap becaudr his technique is so good. Dee ford losig speed would concern me more.