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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#441 » by wco81 » Thu Apr 8, 2021 1:33 am

If Kyle thinks his plays are so great that he can run jet sweeps and inside traps all season long, he won't care about arm strength or talent.

But really, give up all those draft assets for Jones?
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#442 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Apr 8, 2021 3:17 am

wco81 wrote:If Kyle thinks his plays are so great that he can run jet sweeps and inside traps all season long, he won't care about arm strength or talent.

But really, give up all those draft assets for Jones?


That's the issue for me. If we sat at 12 and took Jones, I'd still view it as a reach, but that's inevitable at the QB position. Three firsts and a third is a ton to give up for a guy with below average NFL talent physically.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#443 » by Dodub » Thu Apr 8, 2021 11:40 am

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wco81 wrote:If Kyle thinks his plays are so great that he can run jet sweeps and inside traps all season long, he won't care about arm strength or talent.

But really, give up all those draft assets for Jones?


That's the issue for me. If we sat at 12 and took Jones, I'd still view it as a reach, but that's inevitable at the QB position. Three firsts and a third is a ton to give up for a guy with below average NFL talent physically.


I’m one of Kyle’s biggest supporters, but if this move is for Mac Jones, then it’s an absolutely horrendous move. I would understand if he had elite arm talent to go with whatever it is that they say he does well. He doesn’t have elite arm talent, he has just ol arm talent. He has no athleticism to speak of and worse of all he played at Bama where he had 5 second pockets and surrounded by first rounders.

I really think guys like Steve Young are right when they say that Kyle wants a guy who is more mobile.

Since we can’t get Wilson, I really hope that Trey Lance is the pick.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#444 » by thesack12 » Yesterday 12:14 pm

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This is great news. I honestly can't believe how well free agency has gone for this team. If Blair is healthy (always a concern with this team), he's a solid rotational piece that can line up anywhere on the D-Line. His signing provides even more flexibilty entering the 2nd round of the draft and beyond.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#445 » by thesack12 » Yesterday 12:24 pm

Dodub wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
wco81 wrote:If Kyle thinks his plays are so great that he can run jet sweeps and inside traps all season long, he won't care about arm strength or talent.

But really, give up all those draft assets for Jones?


That's the issue for me. If we sat at 12 and took Jones, I'd still view it as a reach, but that's inevitable at the QB position. Three firsts and a third is a ton to give up for a guy with below average NFL talent physically.


I’m one of Kyle’s biggest supporters, but if this move is for Mac Jones, then it’s an absolutely horrendous move. I would understand if he had elite arm talent to go with whatever it is that they say he does well. He doesn’t have elite arm talent, he has just ol arm talent. He has no athleticism to speak of and worse of all he played at Bama where he had 5 second pockets and surrounded by first rounders.

I really think guys like Steve Young are right when they say that Kyle wants a guy who is more mobile.

Since we can’t get Wilson, I really hope that Trey Lance is the pick.


The truly crazy part is if 9ers don't take Jones at 3 (please don't do it) there is a real chance that Jones falls all the way to Washington at 19 or Chicago at 20.

Say it goes Lawrence/Wilson/Fields, then Pitts goes to Atlanta at 4, Bengals take Sewell at 5, Miami goes WR at 6, then New England trades into 7 to take Lance, its now doubtful Carolina goes QB at 8. If it falls that way and Denver doesn't take Jones (which is possible they don't see him as much of an upgrade on Lock), Jones can easily fall all the way to 19 or 20 as I can definitely envision Jones not being the type of player that GM's feel he is worth giving up future assets to make a move up the board to grab him.

49ers can't have made this move for Jones, they just couldn't have right? He easily could have been available to them if they stayed at 12. Giving up 3 1sts rounders (THREE 1st rounders?) and a 3rd to boot, just to take the 5th best QB prospect in the draft is asinine. Then again they have done some dumb things in the past by getting laser focused on a guy and overpaying to go get him. But surely, they can't be this dumb.... Right?
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#446 » by thesack12 » Yesterday 8:38 pm

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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#447 » by thesack12 » Yesterday 11:30 pm

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https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/146044-49ers-insider-shocked-details-nate-sudfelds-one-year-deal/

Sudfeld will earn a base salary of $990,000 this year, of which $252,000 is guaranteed, and the quarterback will carry a cap hit of $850,000. ESPN's Field Yates reports that there is $137,500 worth of incentives available.

One of those details from the contract was a bit of a surprise to a 49ers insider — Matt Maiocco of NBC Sports Bay Area. That would be the guaranteed money. It's a significant amount for a player who many assumed might merely be an additional arm for the team's offseason program.


When I first heard of the signing yesterday, I was just like eh whatever its a camp arm signing.

But now I just noticed these nuggets. Really? Would seem to indicate they aren't thrilled with Rosen and this is competition for him. Depending on who they take at 3, that Rosen/Sudfield competition could be for the #2 job. Whatever they do, surely they won't carry 4 QB's, right? These days having 3 on the active roster is too many for most situations, but I could see how having 3 this year is beneficial if the plan is to legit redshirt the rookie.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#448 » by wco81 » Yesterday 11:56 pm

It doesn't matter if they find great players later in the draft.

Kyle will be judged by what the #3 pick does. If he's a bust or if players the team passes over at #3 turn out to be great, Kyle's rep as an offense guru will take a severe hit.

He can't mess it up.

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