The Brock Purdy Thread

[WentzerWuver]

Not sure we'll get to see Purdy without Aiyuk. What if he improves a bit over his performance last year (i.e., doesn't have a real stinker like the game against the Ravens), we win the division, win a playoff game, but lose in the NFC Championship game in a shootout with the Eagles where Purdy plays well but the D allows a late FG to win it?

I'm not at all confident I'd pay Purdy $60+ million regardless, but let's see what happens this season and then we can revisit it.

Highly unlikely and would most likely regress but how much is the question. My terms are simple. Win 2 playoffs games without Aiyuk or win SB with him. If he can not do that, he gets 44 million per on a 5 year contract with no perks or trade clauses which I still consider very generous imo.
https://youtube.com/shorts/A8-McRihOz4?si=ODaGOgn4gKCis6jV

And if he refuses, I just double the pastronaut salary to 5 mil per as the starter.
https://youtu.be/I6ks9wWfQwM?si=zVyPFULQCx3rZHyi

[CrimsonCrew]

Just seems pretty silly to put it in such stark terms. Lots of things can occur that would preclude that result, but still confirm that Purdy is the real deal. What if he wins the MVP, but a fluke play knocks them out of the playoffs in their first game?

[Big J]

Aiyuk has a lot less impact on Brock's performance than Kyle does.

[CrimsonCrew]

Not sure we'll get to see Purdy without Aiyuk. What if he improves a bit over his performance last year (i.e., doesn't have a real stinker like the game against the Ravens), we win the division, win a playoff game, but lose in the NFC Championship game in a shootout with the Eagles where Purdy plays well but the D allows a late FG to win it?

I'm not at all confident I'd pay Purdy $60+ million regardless, but let's see what happens this season and then we can revisit it.

Highly unlikely and would most likely regress but how much is the question. My terms are simple. Win 2 playoffs games without Aiyuk or win SB with him. If he can not do that, he gets 44 million per on a 5 year contract with no perks or trade clauses which I still consider very generous imo.
https://youtube.com/shorts/A8-McRihOz4?si=ODaGOgn4gKCis6jV

And if he refuses, I just double the pastronaut salary to 5 mil per as the starter.
https://youtu.be/I6ks9wWfQwM?si=zVyPFULQCx3rZHyi

Overlooked the last sentence and video link. So that's Dobbs, mostly making plays out of structure, beating a 4-5 team with the 18th-ranked scoring defense (opposite the 26th-ranked scoring offense, so teams didn't have to score on them in bunches to win) in a regular-season game. It would be a HUGE mistake to jettison Purdy with Dobbs as the fallback plan unless Dobbs shows tremendous improvement within the system this year.

[wco81]

Not sure we'll get to see Purdy without Aiyuk. What if he improves a bit over his performance last year (i.e., doesn't have a real stinker like the game against the Ravens), we win the division, win a playoff game, but lose in the NFC Championship game in a shootout with the Eagles where Purdy plays well but the D allows a late FG to win it?

I'm not at all confident I'd pay Purdy $60+ million regardless, but let's see what happens this season and then we can revisit it.

They're pretty much stuck having to pay him. They have no other options and a lot of big contracts on the roster.

They either reset if we see that Purdy has hit a ceiling and likely won't get over the top or they believe that he can still improve and play at the high level for the rest of his new contract.

Last year he put up great numbers, like leaders in the league in passes 15-yards downfield or more.

Can't ask for a lot more than that. If you're not going to pay Purdy, then you might as well move all those expensive contracts.

Because there are no other QBs then can get by next season who'd make good use of all the expensive weapons.

[Big J]

Not sure we'll get to see Purdy without Aiyuk. What if he improves a bit over his performance last year (i.e., doesn't have a real stinker like the game against the Ravens), we win the division, win a playoff game, but lose in the NFC Championship game in a shootout with the Eagles where Purdy plays well but the D allows a late FG to win it?

I'm not at all confident I'd pay Purdy $60+ million regardless, but let's see what happens this season and then we can revisit it.

They're pretty much stuck having to pay him. They have no other options and a lot of big contracts on the roster.

They either reset if we see that Purdy has hit a ceiling and likely won't get over the top or they believe that he can still improve and play at the high level for the rest of his new contract.

Last year he put up great numbers, like leaders in the league in passes 15-yards downfield or more.

Can't ask for a lot more than that. If you're not going to pay Purdy, then you might as well move all those expensive contracts.

Because there are no other QBs then can get by next season who'd make good use of all the expensive weapons.

What? There are plenty of cheap QB's that Kyle could use to keep this team as a contender. Hell, the guy took freaking Jimmy G 1 play from winning a damn Super Bowl.

[WentzerWuver]

Not sure we'll get to see Purdy without Aiyuk. What if he improves a bit over his performance last year (i.e., doesn't have a real stinker like the game against the Ravens), we win the division, win a playoff game, but lose in the NFC Championship game in a shootout with the Eagles where Purdy plays well but the D allows a late FG to win it?

I'm not at all confident I'd pay Purdy $60+ million regardless, but let's see what happens this season and then we can revisit it.

Highly unlikely and would most likely regress but how much is the question. My terms are simple. Win 2 playoffs games without Aiyuk or win SB with him. If he can not do that, he gets 44 million per on a 5 year contract with no perks or trade clauses which I still consider very generous imo.
https://youtube.com/shorts/A8-McRihOz4?si=ODaGOgn4gKCis6jV

And if he refuses, I just double the pastronaut salary to 5 mil per as the starter.
https://youtu.be/I6ks9wWfQwM?si=zVyPFULQCx3rZHyi

Overlooked the last sentence and video link. So that's Dobbs, mostly making plays out of structure, beating a 4-5 team with the 18th-ranked scoring defense (opposite the 26th-ranked scoring offense, so teams didn't have to score on them in bunches to win) in a regular-season game. It would be a HUGE mistake to jettison Purdy with Dobbs as the fallback plan unless Dobbs shows tremendous improvement within the system this year.

Didn't you read my generous term offer for Purdy?!? I repeat - if he cannot win the SB with Aiyuk or cannot win 2 freaking playoff games without him, I would offer him a 5 year/44 million per with a 150 million secured payment if he suffers a football related injury during his contract plus option on restructuring of his contract if those conditions are met during the life of that contract.

If you think that is short changing him, I would jettison him to any team who would pay him the 60 mil per in return for 2 first round picks or do you think his eliteness only applies to the 49ers but to other teams, he's still mister irrelevant?

The Browns gave up a lot more to the Texans for Watson after he committed inappropriate acts to a slew of massage ladies. So asking for 2 first round picks is not bad for an elite QB in his prime. Then Shanahan can either bring back JimmyG from retirement or trade for Mac Jones, whom Kyle originally wanted to draft before being overruled by the owner. And Aiyuk can join his made man as far as I am concerned. Bunch of greedy players who want the moon just to play a team sport, unbelievable!

[Harry Palmer]

Highly unlikely and would most likely regress but how much is the question. My terms are simple. Win 2 playoffs games without Aiyuk or win SB with him. If he can not do that, he gets 44 million per on a 5 year contract with no perks or trade clauses which I still consider very generous imo.
https://youtube.com/shorts/A8-McRihOz4?si=ODaGOgn4gKCis6jV

And if he refuses, I just double the pastronaut salary to 5 mil per as the starter.
https://youtu.be/I6ks9wWfQwM?si=zVyPFULQCx3rZHyi

Overlooked the last sentence and video link. So that's Dobbs, mostly making plays out of structure, beating a 4-5 team with the 18th-ranked scoring defense (opposite the 26th-ranked scoring offense, so teams didn't have to score on them in bunches to win) in a regular-season game. It would be a HUGE mistake to jettison Purdy with Dobbs as the fallback plan unless Dobbs shows tremendous improvement within the system this year.

Didn't you read my generous term offer for Purdy?!? I repeat - if he cannot win the SB with Aiyuk or cannot win 2 freaking playoff games without him, I would offer him a 5 year/44 million per with a 150 million secured payment if he suffers a football related injury during his contract plus option on restructuring of his contract if those conditions are met during the life of that contract.

If you think that is short changing him, I would jettison him to any team who would pay him the 60 mil per in return for 2 first round picks or do you think his eliteness only applies to the 49ers but to other teams, he's still mister irrelevant?

The Browns gave up a lot more to the Texans for Watson after he committed inappropriate acts to a slew of massage ladies. So asking for 2 first round picks is not bad for an elite QB in his prime. Then Shanahan can either bring back JimmyG from retirement or trade for Mac Jones, whom Kyle originally wanted to draft before being overruled by the owner. And Aiyuk can join his made man as far as I am concerned. Bunch of greedy players who want the moon just to play a team sport, unbelievable!

What salary for Aiyuk would you have been quoting in August of 2023? Markets don’t work the way you are anticipating, imo. And if BA plays, SB or bust seems imo way too rigid and narrow. For one thing we have lost talent while the Eagles have added. I’m not even sure we ought to be the favourites in the NFC anymore, and that has nothing to do with Purdy. Health will play a big role, etc.

[WentzerWuver]

Overlooked the last sentence and video link. So that's Dobbs, mostly making plays out of structure, beating a 4-5 team with the 18th-ranked scoring defense (opposite the 26th-ranked scoring offense, so teams didn't have to score on them in bunches to win) in a regular-season game. It would be a HUGE mistake to jettison Purdy with Dobbs as the fallback plan unless Dobbs shows tremendous improvement within the system this year.

Didn't you read my generous term offer for Purdy?!? I repeat - if he cannot win the SB with Aiyuk or cannot win 2 freaking playoff games without him, I would offer him a 5 year/44 million per with a 150 million secured payment if he suffers a football related injury during his contract plus option on restructuring of his contract if those conditions are met during the life of that contract.

If you think that is short changing him, I would jettison him to any team who would pay him the 60 mil per in return for 2 first round picks or do you think his eliteness only applies to the 49ers but to other teams, he's still mister irrelevant?

The Browns gave up a lot more to the Texans for Watson after he committed inappropriate acts to a slew of massage ladies. So asking for 2 first round picks is not bad for an elite QB in his prime. Then Shanahan can either bring back JimmyG from retirement or trade for Mac Jones, whom Kyle originally wanted to draft before being overruled by the owner. And Aiyuk can join his made man as far as I am concerned. Bunch of greedy players who want the moon just to play a team sport, unbelievable!

What salary for Aiyuk would you have been quoting in August of 2023? Markets don’t work the way you are anticipating, imo. And if BA plays, SB or bust seems imo way too rigid and narrow. For one thing we have lost talent while the Eagles have added. I’m not even sure we ought to be the favourites in the NFC anymore, and that has nothing to do with Purdy. Health will play a big role, etc.

Isn't the Cowboys doing the same thing with Dak and Lamb? Get to the conference finals this season for the first time ever as a tandem to get their bags or they will go with Lance as the starter the following season which seems fair to me even tho it may seem rigid and narrow to others. So if the 49ers do not reach the conference finals this season with both Aiyuk and Purdy healthy, you still want to give them their bag? And I already stated Eagles are the only team better than the 49ers in this conference so they should meet to determine who can go to the SB between these two power teams, which is supported by Vegas futures based on overall talent along with the Shanahan genius effect. It's why they have been in the conference finals 4 straight times and won 2 of them, so maybe they don't need either Aiyuk nor Purdy to get there. Just ask JimmyG.

https://youtu.be/jqPR6BHEPMQ?si=tvho3neZ9cLuyP2a

[Big J]

Hypothetically if Purdy is bad this year... what do we do?

[Jikkle]

Hypothetically if Purdy is bad this year... what do we do?

He's under contract through 2025 so you don't extend him and make him play out the final year of his contract. If he still sucks in 2025 you move on and if he bounces back you extend him or if you want to see him do it again franchise tag him.

If the year is completely awful then maybe you at least look for a backup that can be at least a competent starter or a flyer on one of the 2021 draft busts like Zach Wilson or Mac Jones who will almost certainly be free agents since it's hard to imagine them sticking with their current teams as backups.

[CharityStripe34]

If Purdy has another very good year and they make the NFC Title game and maybe have a letdown they're not letting Purdy walk or trading him. I guess it's just a wait and see approach. I'm hoping with the full off-season under his belt and more comfort in the system Shanahan lets Purdy start taking more command of the offense during presnap. Would've been nice if there were a few audibles during the SB on some of those crucial third-downs.

[Harry Palmer]

Mixed news on the Purdy front; Dak’s deal sets the bar north of 60 per, but the Niners should be saved from themselves in terms of their being no other big time qbs to inflate the price tag as they inevitably drag it out as long as possible next summer.

[Jikkle]

Mixed news on the Purdy front; Dak’s deal sets the bar north of 60 per, but the Niners should be saved from themselves in terms of their being no other big time qbs to inflate the price tag as they inevitably drag it out as long as possible next summer.

If Purdy repeats what he did last year it'll probably be a quick and easy deal to get done because you simply have to pay him top of the market QB money at that point.

And while Purdy isn't nor should he take a hometown discount he doesn't strike me as the type that's going to drive a hard bargin either.

Where the issue gets thorny is if he just has an above average season where he's not great but still good or gets injured early. That's when it becomes a serious question of if you gamble and extend him and if you do for how much.

[Big J]

60 mil on an average QB is a death sentence.

[WentzerWuver]

Mixed news on the Purdy front; Dak’s deal sets the bar north of 60 per, but the Niners should be saved from themselves in terms of their being no other big time qbs to inflate the price tag as they inevitably drag it out as long as possible next summer.

If Purdy repeats what he did last year it'll probably be a quick and easy deal to get done because you simply have to pay him top of the market QB money at that point.

And while Purdy isn't nor should he take a hometown discount he doesn't strike me as the type that's going to drive a hard bargin either.

Where the issue gets thorny is if he just has an above average season where he's not great but still good or gets injured early. That's when it becomes a serious question of if you gamble and extend him and if you do for how much.

Brady played like a GOAT and taking big home town discounts to sustain their dynasty. Purdy can follow that same path like Brady or continue with the Aiyuk sega next offseason.

So he should take a home town discount to keep the talent together imo but it will be up to him.

[Big J]

Mixed news on the Purdy front; Dak’s deal sets the bar north of 60 per, but the Niners should be saved from themselves in terms of their being no other big time qbs to inflate the price tag as they inevitably drag it out as long as possible next summer.

If Purdy repeats what he did last year it'll probably be a quick and easy deal to get done because you simply have to pay him top of the market QB money at that point.

And while Purdy isn't nor should he take a hometown discount he doesn't strike me as the type that's going to drive a hard bargin either.

Where the issue gets thorny is if he just has an above average season where he's not great but still good or gets injured early. That's when it becomes a serious question of if you gamble and extend him and if you do for how much.

Brady played like a GOAT and taking big home town discounts to sustain their dynasty. Purdy can follow that same path like the GOAT or continue with the Aiyuk drama next offseason.

So he should take a home town discount to keep the talent together like Brady but it will be up to him.

It will also be up to what he can get on the open market. I don’t see any other teams paying him like a top QB.

[WentzerWuver]

If Purdy repeats what he did last year it'll probably be a quick and easy deal to get done because you simply have to pay him top of the market QB money at that point.

And while Purdy isn't nor should he take a hometown discount he doesn't strike me as the type that's going to drive a hard bargin either.

Where the issue gets thorny is if he just has an above average season where he's not great but still good or gets injured early. That's when it becomes a serious question of if you gamble and extend him and if you do for how much.

Brady played like a GOAT and taking big home town discounts to sustain their dynasty. Purdy can follow that same path like the GOAT or continue with the Aiyuk drama next offseason.

So he should take a home town discount to keep the talent together like Brady but it will be up to him.

It will also be up to what he can get on the open market. I don’t see any other teams paying him like a top QB.

That's what YOU would do to be paid like Dak. Purdy is not leaving for that kind of money cause he owes the 49ers for giving him a chance to succeed on a loaded team as mister irrelevant and may follow the Brady path.

[Jikkle]

Mixed news on the Purdy front; Dak’s deal sets the bar north of 60 per, but the Niners should be saved from themselves in terms of their being no other big time qbs to inflate the price tag as they inevitably drag it out as long as possible next summer.

If Purdy repeats what he did last year it'll probably be a quick and easy deal to get done because you simply have to pay him top of the market QB money at that point.

And while Purdy isn't nor should he take a hometown discount he doesn't strike me as the type that's going to drive a hard bargin either.

Where the issue gets thorny is if he just has an above average season where he's not great but still good or gets injured early. That's when it becomes a serious question of if you gamble and extend him and if you do for how much.

Brady played like a GOAT and taking big home town discounts to sustain their dynasty. Purdy can follow that same path like Brady or continue with the Aiyuk drama next offseason.

So he should take a home town discount to keep the talent together imo but it will be up to him.

Brady had a wife that made more than he did on top of the fact he was legitimately chasing cementing himself as the GOAT QB.

Brady is the only QB to do that so great if Purdy wants to do it and I'd be glad if he did but if he plays like he did last year I'm not blaming him for wanting top QB money. Just like I don't blame other players for wanting their money as well.

I don't see Purdy being the type to demand every penny kinda like Aiyuk was doing and I'm sure he'll be flexible when it comes to structuring the contract so the team can smartly place his big cap hits on years where it looks like we can afford it.

As it stands right now the current group we have is going to be around 2 to 3 more years so if I'm doing his deal I'd probably want him to have a massive cap hit spike around 2027 or 2028. Me in my armchair front office chair would maximize this window as much as possible and once the window closes and guys like Kittle, CMC, Trent, and Deebo are gone I'd take a season to clean up the dead money on the books, take some massive cap hits on some guys to get them out of the way, and then beyond that year we gear up for another run.

[Jikkle]

If Purdy repeats what he did last year it'll probably be a quick and easy deal to get done because you simply have to pay him top of the market QB money at that point.

And while Purdy isn't nor should he take a hometown discount he doesn't strike me as the type that's going to drive a hard bargin either.

Where the issue gets thorny is if he just has an above average season where he's not great but still good or gets injured early. That's when it becomes a serious question of if you gamble and extend him and if you do for how much.

Brady played like a GOAT and taking big home town discounts to sustain their dynasty. Purdy can follow that same path like the GOAT or continue with the Aiyuk drama next offseason.

So he should take a home town discount to keep the talent together like Brady but it will be up to him.

It will also be up to what he can get on the open market. I don’t see any other teams paying him like a top QB.

If his performance doesn't change much he'll get top dollar or very close to it.

If guys like Tua and Goff can get huge deals and Dak who is great for fantasy teams but has proven that he's a playoff choker can get top dollar there is no way a team wouldn't give Purdy top dollar assuming he continues to perform strong.