WentzerWuver wrote:CrimsonCrew wrote:Dobbs is our third QB. He's a reasonably instinctive player with some physical tools, but at least at this point, he isn't running the offense the way it's designed. Kyle isn't going with that sort of player as his starting QB. If he was inclined to, he would have drafted Fields over Lance.
Dobbs has bounced around the league a lot and has had to learn a bunch of different playbooks, so maybe he'll improve as he gets more time in this system. But Kyle's favorite thing about Purdy is that he sees it the way that Kyle draws it up. Dobbs clearly does not at this point.
Lol the only thing both Dobbs and Fields have in common is they were both born in Georgia, besides the usual physical attributes. Dobbs has a rather quick release and goes thru his progression on the fly as he can process Kyle's playbook with ease being that he can get a job at NASA if he wanted to. Justin holds onto the ball way too long with one of the slowest release in the game like Mr Unlimited, taking forever on his progressions from any playbook but he have a much stronger arm and better at running down the field for yardages. Kyle wouldn't go near Fields during the draft but if the Pastronaut has the same characteristics as Justin, he wouldn't be on the roster now. Where did you get this stuff where they are both the same anyways?
https://www.nfl.com/prospects/joshua-dobbs/3200444f-4230-2360-8e14-dbbe1dede120https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5354448/2024/03/21/49ers-depth-chart-free-agency/It's almost like you are the opposite of Mr J, trying to convince the public that Purdy is irreplaceable for the Niners and should get his 60+ mil per contract. I like Purdy a lot, but also try to be realistic and not lose both CMC and Deebo along with others from the defensive side, so Purdy can get his bag. This roster is setting record contracts for more players than any other team and it's not sustainable.
From what I have seen of Dobbs, he does a lot of his damage out of structure. That is the similarity to Fields. And to Russ, who I compared Fields to in college. Again, there are lots of caveats to that.
This year, we only saw Dobbs in the preseason with second- and third-stringers. Last year, he was new to not one but two different offensive systems. It's hard to expect a guy in that situation to completely grasp a playbook, particularly a famously complex one like Kyle's. Look, Dobbs is clearly incredibly intelligent. He seems to be a hard worker. He has pretty good physical tools. But he has not shown that he is an NFL starting QB. He has thrown 15 TDs in 502 attempts (3% of passes), and 13 in 417 attempts last year (3.1%), he had an astonishing 14 fumbles last season season (7 lost) and 18 for his career (9 lost), and he has taken 36 sacks. The reality is that we're talking about a guy who has no track record of sustained success in the league, and has repeatedly been cut or benched in favor of mediocre or downright bad players.
Dobbs was drafted by the Steelers in the fourth round, but was beaten out by Mason Rudolph the following year and traded for a fifth-round pick. After a year as a backup on the Jags (no regular season stats), he was cut from a team that ended up going 1-15 while being led by Gardner Minshew, Mike Glennon, and Jake Luton. He was re-signed by the Steelers, but once again played behind Mason Rudolph. He missed the next year on IR.
In 2022, Dobbs was signed by the Browns, where he backed up Jacoby Brissett until Watson came back. The team went 4-7 under Brissett, and Dobbs was cut as soon as Watson returned. He ended up on the Titans' active roster, backing up Tannehill and Willis. He finally got an opportunity to start at the end of that season. In his first game, he went 20 of 39 for 232 yards (5.95 YPA) for one TD, one INT, two sacks, and two fumbles in a 27-13 loss (no Derrick Henry in this one). The next week, he improved to 20 of 29 for 179 yards (6.17 YPA) for one TD, one INT, four sacks, and two fumbles in a 20-16 loss.
Dobbs finally got a shot last year, going 2-7 with the Cards before going 3-2 with the Vikings. And he had a few good games. Probably his best came when he beat Dallas 28-16 on 17 of 21 for 189 yards and a TD with 55 rush yards. In that one, the running game (excluding Dobbs) put up 167 yards for 2 TDs on 7.0 YPC. He had a solid game against us...while losing by 19.
In Minnesota, Dobbs won a tight game against the Falcons in which he played well, and same with NO. Then he lost to a bad Broncos team (his team scored three points in the final 23 minutes), threw four INTs against a worse Bears team, and then beat a bad Raiders team in a 3-0 **** show where he averaged 2.74 YPA on 23 attempts and took five sacks. He was benched in favor of Nick Mullens, who admittedly went 0-4, but that was against much better competition in the Bengals, Lions (twice) and Packers.
Bottom line: this is not a player you can rely on as the face of the franchise. And his presence puts not pressure on Purdy whatsoever. Maybe if he had a sustained period to play as a starter it would all come together for him, but based on the sample size to date, I'm not taking that bet. There are lots of other players I would look to first if we're going to replace Purdy.
Oh, and that depth chart you posted was a roster projection. Here's the actual depth chart:
https://www.49ers.com/team/depth-chartBeat writers have generally agreed that Allen would be the number two if Purdy went down mid-game.
