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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#141 » by Samurai » Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:19 pm

In addition to McGill, we also re-signed Demetrius Flanigan-Fowles, one day after declining to tender him. DFF was a significant force on special teams (2nd in ST tackles behind Odum). With Al-Shaair gone, DFF could have a bigger role this season than just ST if he can win the battle against McCrary-Ball and Robinson for Al-Shaair's former role on defense.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#142 » by Samurai » Thu Mar 16, 2023 8:22 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:I guess McGill was already on the roster. Whoops. Midseason acquisition? I had completely forgotten he was on the team.

Haven't seen the details yet, but it's been reported that his deal contains some guaranteed money. If so, that would seem to indicate that the brain-trust expects him to make the 53-man roster.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#143 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Mar 16, 2023 9:23 pm

Dodub wrote:I don’t know if this is where you post draft takes or not.

I’ve been watching sone Cody Mauch and he’s looking like the perfect RT candidate. He has outstanding movement skills, a great motor and a nasty streak.


He's got really short arms, so decent chance he'll still be there for one of our picks or a small trade up.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#144 » by Samurai » Fri Mar 17, 2023 3:39 am

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Dodub wrote:I don’t know if this is where you post draft takes or not.

I’ve been watching sone Cody Mauch and he’s looking like the perfect RT candidate. He has outstanding movement skills, a great motor and a nasty streak.


He's got really short arms, so decent chance he'll still be there for one of our picks or a small trade up.

His short arms make him better as a run blocker than a pass blocker; he could get exposed as a RT when isolated against a decent pass rusher. That might make him better suited as a G instead of a T. What about Dawand Jones - can't teach someone to become 6-8, 374 pounds. Despite being as big as a house, he is very raw and technique is unpolished, making it possible for him to fall to us. And his background and likely future is clearly as a RT.

And can't help thinking that Mauch looks more like a hockey player than a football player!
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#145 » by Samurai » Sun Mar 19, 2023 12:42 am

Sounds like we signed DB Myles Hartsfield. He ran a 4.39 40 with a 38.5 inch vertical at his pro day, which would make him our most athletic guy in the secondary. Would likely replace Tarvarius Moore as an athletic versatile back who can contribute on special teams.
Played 343 snaps in the slot and 256 at free safety, so obviously it's helpful to have guys that can play multiple positions. And the good news is that he played for Carolina last season, so obviously Steve Wilks is very familiar with him.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#146 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Mar 20, 2023 3:18 pm

Eagles lost Chauncey Gardner-Johnson. There was some talk that they would be able to keep him. Another key piece of their defense gone, though they did a better job retaining guys than I expected.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#147 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Mar 20, 2023 7:30 pm

Jordan Willis signed with the Raiders. Damn. He's a guy I've always liked, who has played a solid role for us for the past few years. I had hoped he would return on the cheap.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#148 » by Samurai » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:26 pm

Niners re-signed TE Ross Dwelley. Somehow Dwelley gives me the vibe of just being a warm body that could/should be replaced by someone with skills at any time. Yet Dwelley is returning for his 6th season. So either he must be providing value that I'm not seeing (he plays special teams) or he has dirty pics of Shanahan. Kinda surprised that Charlie Woerner hasn't beaten him out of a spot and/or can't replicate what Dwelley is providing on special teams.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#149 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Mar 20, 2023 9:12 pm

Samurai wrote:Niners re-signed TE Ross Dwelley. Somehow Dwelley gives me the vibe of just being a warm body that could/should be replaced by someone with skills at any time. Yet Dwelley is returning for his 6th season. So either he must be providing value that I'm not seeing (he plays special teams) or he has dirty pics of Shanahan. Kinda surprised that Charlie Woerner hasn't beaten him out of a spot and/or can't replicate what Dwelley is providing on special teams.


Despite having no physical ability at all, Dwelley has been a decent pass-catcher for us, and is arguably underutilized in that capacity. That said, he's a liability as a blocker, and the lack of physical traits mean he's far from an impact player.

My hope is that this deal has low guarantees, and he will be fighting for a roster spot with a rookie who is drafted with one of our first six picks (three in the third and fifth). It's a really deep TE draft, which 49ers' FO personnel have mentioned a couple times, so it seems like that's the plan.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#150 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Mar 20, 2023 11:02 pm

Niners signed Jon Feliciano to a one-year deal. He started 15 games at center for the Giants last year, and had 39 starts at guard before that. Solid interior OL depth, most likely, basically replacing Brunskill without the tackle versatility. Could compete to start at RG if Burford doesn't make a jump. Seems like a solid enough move to shore up the interior prior to the draft, assuming it's not an expensive contract.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#151 » by arich35 » Tue Mar 21, 2023 1:01 am

Samurai wrote:Niners re-signed TE Ross Dwelley. Somehow Dwelley gives me the vibe of just being a warm body that could/should be replaced by someone with skills at any time. Yet Dwelley is returning for his 6th season. So either he must be providing value that I'm not seeing (he plays special teams) or he has dirty pics of Shanahan. Kinda surprised that Charlie Woerner hasn't beaten him out of a spot and/or can't replicate what Dwelley is providing on special teams.


I am surprised we haven't invested a draft pick the last couple years on a late draft TE. Finding another great blocker or a pass catcher that could really help out in this offense especially when Kittle is out for a couple games every year
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#152 » by Samurai » Tue Mar 21, 2023 5:29 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Niners signed Jon Feliciano to a one-year deal. He started 15 games at center for the Giants last year, and had 39 starts at guard before that. Solid interior OL depth, most likely, basically replacing Brunskill without the tackle versatility. Could compete to start at RG if Burford doesn't make a jump. Seems like a solid enough move to shore up the interior prior to the draft, assuming it's not an expensive contract.

Agree that he will likely be this season's version of Brunskill. Apparently Feliciano himself feels he is a better RG than LG but that his best position is C. Which is great since we need a seasoned vet who can step right in if Brendel gets injured. Still probably not a bad idea to draft a developmental project at center late in the later rounds and let him learn the ropes on the practice squad with Feliciano on the game day roster.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#153 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:55 pm

Jets traded Elijah Moore to the Browns. They sent a second (42) for Moore and the Jet's third (74). We don't have that ammunition, but Moore is the type of receiver I'd like to add to this team: a smaller, very shifty and quick guy. Gray has build-up speed, but he's not exactly quick. His ten-yard split was 46th percentile. He didn't run the shuttle and three-cone at the combine, but did at his pro day, which usually results in faster times. At this year's combine, his three-cone would have been the slowest of 14 receivers who ran it - by .22 seconds - and his shuttle would have been 15th.

Moore struggled in his second season with a shaky Jets' passing game, but had some nice games as a rookie. Might have been interested at that price.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#154 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Mar 23, 2023 6:11 pm

Niners signed DE Austin Bryant from Detroit. Depth player. He had a pretty good year in 2021 with 4.5 sacks in 14 games and 5 starts, but very quiet otherwise. Good size at 6'4", 271 pounds (at the combine) and great length with 34 5/8" arms. He strained a pec benching at the combine and didn't do any workouts.

Seems like the sort of guy who has historically underperformed, but might be able to slot into the Jordan Willis role. Still need to find one or two more guys with some explosive pass rush ability, and really need Drake Jackson to be working on his body and conditioning this offseason.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#155 » by Pattersonca65 » Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:47 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Niners signed DE Austin Bryant from Detroit. Depth player. He had a pretty good year in 2021 with 4.5 sacks in 14 games and 5 starts, but very quiet otherwise. Good size at 6'4", 271 pounds (at the combine) and great length with 34 5/8" arms. He strained a pec benching at the combine and didn't do any workouts.

Seems like the sort of guy who has historically underperformed, but might be able to slot into the Jordan Willis role. Still need to find one or two more guys with some explosive pass rush ability, and really need Drake Jackson to be working on his body and conditioning this offseason.


Austin Bryant has struggled with injuries during his short career. Kind of like Kinlaw injuries have hurt him possibly reaching his potential
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#156 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:56 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Niners signed DE Austin Bryant from Detroit. Depth player. He had a pretty good year in 2021 with 4.5 sacks in 14 games and 5 starts, but very quiet otherwise. Good size at 6'4", 271 pounds (at the combine) and great length with 34 5/8" arms. He strained a pec benching at the combine and didn't do any workouts.

Seems like the sort of guy who has historically underperformed, but might be able to slot into the Jordan Willis role. Still need to find one or two more guys with some explosive pass rush ability, and really need Drake Jackson to be working on his body and conditioning this offseason.


Austin Bryant has struggled with injuries during his short career. Kind of like Kinlaw injuries have hurt him possibly reaching his potential


The Kinlaw analogy is not a welcome one at this point.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#157 » by Samurai » Fri Mar 24, 2023 2:46 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Niners signed DE Austin Bryant from Detroit. Depth player. He had a pretty good year in 2021 with 4.5 sacks in 14 games and 5 starts, but very quiet otherwise. Good size at 6'4", 271 pounds (at the combine) and great length with 34 5/8" arms. He strained a pec benching at the combine and didn't do any workouts.

Seems like the sort of guy who has historically underperformed, but might be able to slot into the Jordan Willis role. Still need to find one or two more guys with some explosive pass rush ability, and really need Drake Jackson to be working on his body and conditioning this offseason.

Seems like a typical Niners move. Solid athlete but injuries have kept him from translating that to being a solid player. I'm assuming Kris Kocurek signed off on this and given Kocurek's track record, I'm good with that. Unfortunately I don't have as much faith in our training staff to keep players healthy.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#158 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:16 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Niners signed DE Austin Bryant from Detroit. Depth player. He had a pretty good year in 2021 with 4.5 sacks in 14 games and 5 starts, but very quiet otherwise. Good size at 6'4", 271 pounds (at the combine) and great length with 34 5/8" arms. He strained a pec benching at the combine and didn't do any workouts.

Seems like the sort of guy who has historically underperformed, but might be able to slot into the Jordan Willis role. Still need to find one or two more guys with some explosive pass rush ability, and really need Drake Jackson to be working on his body and conditioning this offseason.


Austin Bryant has struggled with injuries during his short career. Kind of like Kinlaw injuries have hurt him possibly reaching his potential


The Kinlaw analogy is not a welcome one at this point.


LOL, well Jimmy Ward redeemed himself after years of being consistently injured.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#159 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Mar 24, 2023 6:32 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:
Austin Bryant has struggled with injuries during his short career. Kind of like Kinlaw injuries have hurt him possibly reaching his potential


The Kinlaw analogy is not a welcome one at this point.


LOL, well Jimmy Ward redeemed himself after years of being consistently injured.


That's true. But Kinlaw has shown nothing when he's been on the field. A handful of solid plays over three years, but he was the weakest link on the D in the NFC Championship game, and it's not close. He was getting blown five yards off the ball on running plays. Greenlaw also had a really rough game playing the run.
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Re: 2023 Offseason 

Post#160 » by Samurai » Sat Mar 25, 2023 3:23 am

Niners traded for K Zane Gonzalez, so it sounds like Robbie Gould won't be back. Gonzalez suffered a significant groin injury (non-contact) in the pre-season and missed the entire 22 season. Like with a number of other moves, the Niners are hoping that he is healthy. But even then, he seems very inconsistent. He was very good in 21, making 90% of his FG's (including 10-10 from 40-49 yards and 3-5 from 50+) and had a touchback percentage of 64%. But aside from 2019 and 2021, he's never been above 77% in FG's. Seems like the team could still bring in a rookie and have him and Gonzalez compete for the job in the pre-season.

I will miss Robbie's "good as Gould" consistency.

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