2017-18 CFB SEASON / '18 NFL DRAFT

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Saquon Barkley - RB - Nittany Lions

According to Graham Barfield's charting, Penn State RB Saquon Barkley ranks the highest in three years in missed tackles forced per opportunity.

In that three year sample, Barfield states Barkley places second in Yards Created per Carry, first in Missed Tackles per Carry, first in Missed Tackles per Opportunity and second in Pass Protection Execution. That equals a rare prospect who fits exactly what the NFL is looking for now: a ball carrier who creates yards on his own as a runner and receiver. Now, Barkley does have wrinkles in the form of not sticking his head down and converting one or two yards when a lane is not created. No prospect is flawless, and Barkley's strengths are absurd.
Source: Fantasy Guru

Mar 8 - 10:11 AM

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Jessie Bates III - DB - Demon Deacons

NFL Media's Daniel Jeremiah now ranks Wake Forest S Jessie Bates as a top 30 prospect.

Bates moved outside of the top 50 into the top 30. "He has outstanding range, instincts and ball skills from the deep middle and he flashed the ability to match up in the slot," Jeremiah said, adding Bates should be a Pro Bowl caliber player early on. Bates' athletic profile placed him in the 46th percentile, which is very average, but Jeremiah and Mike Mayock continued to speak highly of him during NFL Combine coverage. Expect to hear Bates' name in the first round conversation.
Source: NFL.com

Mar 8 - 9:42 AM

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

There’s something about him I don’t trust yet. He’s not even on my top 5.

D.J. Moore - WR - Terrapins

Walter Football reports that Maryland WR D.J. Moore met with the Cowboys, Eagles, Colts and Washington at the NFL Scouting Combine.

All four of these teams have needs at wide receiver, and all four would be great fits for one of the true stars of the combine. The Colts would likely need to trade up from their second-round selection in order to draft the 6-foot, 210-pound wideout. There's a real chance that he ends up being the first receiver to come off the board at this point.
Source: Walter Football

Mar 5 - 10:07 PM

Speaking of Moore...He flashed some legit T.O. YAC in the little that I saw of him.

On the T.O. front. His strength coach has said he has one of the best work ethics he's ever seen in all his years of coaching. Called it "incredible and contagious." Had one of the best seasons in Maryland history (80 for 1,033) with FOUR different quarterbacks. First FBS player since Hakeem Nicks with 1,000+ receiving yards that didn't have a 1,500 yard passer throwing to him (because of injuries).

.........plus the kid returns kicks and punts. I wouldn't be completely upset if the 49ers had a Moore and Moore WR duo next year (DJ and J'Mon).

I’d take my chances on a guy like Anthony Miller, one of the most underrated players in this class. I think Miller is a much better receiver and he’s equally as much of a hard working player.

[CrimsonCrew]

Really curious to see what happens with the QBs. That's going to completely influence how we approach #9. Such mixed reviews on a number of these guys, especially Allen and Jackson. All it takes is one team falling in love, though.

[Ray_Dogg]

Speaking of Moore...He flashed some legit T.O. YAC in the little that I saw of him.

On the T.O. front. His strength coach has said he has one of the best work ethics he's ever seen in all his years of coaching. Called it "incredible and contagious." Had one of the best seasons in Maryland history (80 for 1,033) with FOUR different quarterbacks. First FBS player since Hakeem Nicks with 1,000+ receiving yards that didn't have a 1,500 yard passer throwing to him (because of injuries).

.........plus the kid returns kicks and punts. I wouldn't be completely upset if the 49ers had a Moore and Moore WR duo next year (DJ and J'Mon).

I love Miller and I love that Memphis offense.

I’d take my chances on a guy like Anthony Miller, one of the most underrated players in this class. I think Miller is a much better receiver and he’s equally as much of a hard working player.

[wco81]

Really curious to see what happens with the QBs. That's going to completely influence how we approach #9. Such mixed reviews on a number of these guys, especially Allen and Jackson. All it takes is one team falling in love, though.

Heard something really crazy, that Rosen may fall out of the top 10.

And it sounds mostly like non-football stuff, like he came from a rich family and NFL teams don't like his politics.

If they couldn't stand Kaepernick kneeling for the national anthem, they were going to HATE Rosen being outspoken on some political and social issues.

After giving Jimmy a big contract, 49ers aren't going to draft a QB high. But if Jimmy was say 29 instead of 27, it would have to be very tempting if he was available when they picked.

[ChrisPozz]

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He was 5'7 3/8 and 185 lbs at the East West Shrine game. Has 764 career carries and 545 carries in his last 2 seasons. 30 rushing TDs in his last 2 years. Never averaged lower than 4.7 in any season. 116 career catches (53 as a junior). Very good playing speed and burst. Good vision and feel as a runner. Packs a bit more punch than your standard 5-7 sub 190 guy IMO.

[ChrisPozz]

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[Dloading99]

YO I'm going to be clear as possible as I can with this. and I'm glad yall are still in here talking football some of the other forums are a joke with no one in there.

The Rosen Politics stuff is just dumb stupid and ridiculous. if you are going to be a team and not draft a guy because of his politics and social issues then screw you and you probably shouldn't own or run a team.

I've known about Josh Rosen since he was in High School. he's rich but so what John Elway came from a Rich Family. Peyton's dad was a NFL Quarterback means nothing.

Josh Rosen could've went to Mira Costa in Manhattan beach and he went to St. John Bosco in Bellflower.

The guy is a Superstar. I'm not going for the attitude stuff people said the same thing about Aaron Rodgers how that turn out?


Rosen really????????? off field come on. there is nothing off field about the kid. he's a super smart kid. and he just questions things. I want my Quarterback asking Questions so he can get better not pulling a Manziel. okay!


This is simple. Jimmy Goropollo is a great guy. ChrisPozz you guys seem well informed and football knowledgeable. but Why would we Why would we after Kaepernick not draft a potential Franchise Quarterback who is available just because of what we saw half a season. And I'm the biggest Jimmy Guy. but we know NFL franchises make adjustments when they scout guys.


We know Jimmy has a well documented career of NFL injuries we saw New England after having guys like Elvis Grbac man you gotta have a great Backup Quarterback look at Nick Foles. and if you think a kid like Josh Rosen is immature why not have him sit for four years like Aaron Rodgers and eventually we play him or trade him for a Kings Ransom like Hershel Walker.

Gorollo is 26 that would put him at 30 and I don't know what he'll be at 30 shoot we can keep Rosen til he's 26. You gotta prepare and if he's there like I told YAll I'm taking him. don't think he'll be there and no way he gets past the L.A. chargers.

But I think only guys well have a chance at is Quentin Nelson Denzel Ward Tremaine Edmonds and Marcus Davenport.

[NinerSickness]

YO I'm going to be clear as possible as I can with this. and I'm glad yall are still in here talking football some of the other forums are a joke with no one in there.

The Rosen Politics stuff is just dumb stupid and ridiculous. if you are going to be a team and not draft a guy because of his politics and social issues then screw you and you probably shouldn't own or run a team.

I've known about Josh Rosen since he was in High School. he's rich but so what John Elway came from a Rich Family. Peyton's dad was a NFL Quarterback means nothing.

Josh Rosen could've went to Mira Costa in Manhattan beach and he went to St. John Bosco in Bellflower.

The guy is a Superstar. I'm not going for the attitude stuff people said the same thing about Aaron Rodgers how that turn out?


Rosen really????????? off field come on. there is nothing off field about the kid. he's a super smart kid. and he just questions things. I want my Quarterback asking Questions so he can get better not pulling a Manziel. okay!


This is simple. Jimmy Goropollo is a great guy. ChrisPozz you guys seem well informed and football knowledgeable. but Why would we Why would we after Kaepernick not draft a potential Franchise Quarterback who is available just because of what we saw half a season. And I'm the biggest Jimmy Guy. but we know NFL franchises make adjustments when they scout guys.


We know Jimmy has a well documented career of NFL injuries we saw New England after having guys like Elvis Grbac man you gotta have a great Backup Quarterback look at Nick Foles. and if you think a kid like Josh Rosen is immature why not have him sit for four years like Aaron Rodgers and eventually we play him or trade him for a Kings Ransom like Hershel Walker.

Gorollo is 26 that would put him at 30 and I don't know what he'll be at 30 shoot we can keep Rosen til he's 26. You gotta prepare and if he's there like I told YAll I'm taking him. don't think he'll be there and no way he gets past the L.A. chargers.

But I think only guys well have a chance at is Quentin Nelson Denzel Ward Tremaine Edmonds and Marcus Davenport.

Great post. Rosen is the next Peyton (poor man's Peyton). If he were at 9, the Niners would be ret**ds to not draft him.

I'd be very underwhelmed if the Niners drafted Ward, Edwards or Davenport at 9. Nelson I'd even trade up to 6 or 7 for. He'd be Jimmy's best friend his entire, Niner career.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Really curious to see what happens with the QBs. That's going to completely influence how we approach #9. Such mixed reviews on a number of these guys, especially Allen and Jackson. All it takes is one team falling in love, though.

Heard something really crazy, that Rosen may fall out of the top 10.

And it sounds mostly like non-football stuff, like he came from a rich family and NFL teams don't like his politics.

If they couldn't stand Kaepernick kneeling for the national anthem, they were going to HATE Rosen being outspoken on some political and social issues.

After giving Jimmy a big contract, 49ers aren't going to draft a QB high. But if Jimmy was say 29 instead of 27, it would have to be very tempting if he was available when they picked.

I’m plagiarizing the great Richard Sherman here: If Rosen falls outside of the top 10, “the system is broken”.

Basically a ton of decision makers will end up getting fired as a result 4/5 years from now for passing on him.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Arden Key - DL - Tigers

LSU edge rusher Arden Key said that he was "star-struck" when he shook the hand of San Francisco 49ers GM John Lynch.

"He was calm in the meeting room, trying to get to know me, very dialed in and looking at me in the eye the whole time," Key said. The 6-foot-5, 238-pounder called the San Fran duo of Lynch and HC Kyle Shanahan "impressive." How NFL teams are viewing Key, however, is less certain. The edge rusher said that when speaking at the combine, squads were "blown away" by his explanation for a leave of absence which he took from LSU last spring. That can be read for better or worse. Definitely for worse, Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline has been hearing that Key "left a bad taste" with his interviews and that he's been sliding down draft boards.
Source: NFL.com

Mar 8 - 3:13 PM

[NinerSickness]

Arden Key - DL - Tigers

LSU edge rusher Arden Key said that he was "star-struck" when he shook the hand of San Francisco 49ers GM John Lynch.

"He was calm in the meeting room, trying to get to know me, very dialed in and looking at me in the eye the whole time," Key said. The 6-foot-5, 238-pounder called the San Fran duo of Lynch and HC Kyle Shanahan "impressive." How NFL teams are viewing Key, however, is less certain. The edge rusher said that when speaking at the combine, squads were "blown away" by his explanation for a leave of absence which he took from LSU last spring. That can be read for better or worse. Definitely for worse, Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline has been hearing that Key "left a bad taste" with his interviews and that he's been sliding down draft boards.
Source: NFL.com

Mar 8 - 3:13 PM

Just from this guy's play on the field, I could tell his heart is not in it. He just wants to get rich & tail surf like Manziel & all the other NFL douches.

Hardest of passes. 6th round, maybe.

[Dloading99]

Just gotta keep it real.

Cause you know if the Arizona Cardinals get a chance to Draft Josh Rosen they will and we'll be looking at him in our Division.

[Dloading99]

Thanks Brotha Niners.

Rosen comes off to me as a Kid I've see before Peyton Manning John Elway. These kids were groomed to be Quarterbacks.

I was the kid screaming for the Niners to draft Brady. I saw the Game Brady had for Michigan against Shaun Alexander and Alabama I said that kid is going to be special. I remember him brining them back with David Terrell.

I remember the idiot Michigan fans calling for the Wolverines to Bench Brady for some guy name Drew Henson.

The Aaron Rodgers thing I was in San Francisco for that. here we go again. The green room. We can't do that again.

And all Yall Niners fans in here fellas I see it again Josh Rosen in the Green room talking to his agent like what's going on?

Do the Mike Makarthy I repeat do the Mike Mcarthy. just draft best on the board Aaron Rodgers Josh Rosen and if you would've told me we could get Garaoppollo win and still have Rosen fall to us I would tell you go play the Loto. you are crazy. but to be able to get two great Quarterbacks it's a luxury to have.


I've never been the guy we gout our guy no need to draft another Quarterback. As good as Jimmy G is we don't have Aaron Rodgers Brady or Ryan and I would still Draft Rosen with those guys. These Kind of Quarterbacks just have all the tools arm strength Accuracy Pocket Presence Pocket Poise and mobility. but let the smoke screen begin let's get this guy.

[wco81]

Actually, that seems to be one of the football knocks against Rosen, that he isn't so mobile.

[CrimsonCrew]

Thanks Brotha Niners.

Rosen comes off to me as a Kid I've see before Peyton Manning John Elway. These kids were groomed to be Quarterbacks.

I was the kid screaming for the Niners to draft Brady. I saw the Game Brady had for Michigan against Shaun Alexander and Alabama I said that kid is going to be special. I remember him brining them back with David Terrell.

I remember the idiot Michigan fans calling for the Wolverines to Bench Brady for some guy name Drew Henson.

The Aaron Rodgers thing I was in San Francisco for that. here we go again. The green room. We can't do that again.

And all Yall Niners fans in here fellas I see it again Josh Rosen in the Green room talking to his agent like what's going on?

Do the Mike Makarthy I repeat do the Mike Mcarthy. just draft best on the board Aaron Rodgers Josh Rosen and if you would've told me we could get Garaoppollo win and still have Rosen fall to us I would tell you go play the Loto. you are crazy. but to be able to get two great Quarterbacks it's a luxury to have.


I've never been the guy we gout our guy no need to draft another Quarterback. As good as Jimmy G is we don't have Aaron Rodgers Brady or Ryan and I would still Draft Rosen with those guys. These Kind of Quarterbacks just have all the tools arm strength Accuracy Pocket Presence Pocket Poise and mobility. but let the smoke screen begin let's get this guy.

The Favre-Rodgers comparison isn't a great one. Favre was 35 when they drafted Rodgers, so they had to start thinking about the future at the position. Garoppolo is 29 [update: Garoppolo is 26, not 29]. And the Packers were a playoff team that took Rodgers at 24. We're a team with loads of holes who would be taking a QB at 9. I'm not saying we absolutely should not consider taking Rosen, I just don't think we're in the same position as the Packers were. Oh, and Mike McCarthy was the OC of the Niners in 2005.

My view is that, if Rosen is still on the board, we need to be shopping the pick aggressively. If we can't get a worthwhile offer, then sure, we consider taking him if we really think he could develop into a franchise guy. We're not in a position to double down at QB right now otherwise.

[Dodub]

Actually, that seems to be one of the football knocks against Rosen, that he isn't so mobile.

The dude is a throw back QB in the Peyton Manning, Tom Brady type mold. He’s a true pocket passer. I’m not saying that he has the same football brain that those guys have, I’m speaking purely about physical ability

[wco81]

Jimmy turned 26 in November.

By the end of his contract, if he lives up to it that they keep him for the length of the contract, he'll be 31-32?

Josh Rosen turned 21 in February. So he'd be 26-27, though they'd have to pick up his fifth year option. Could get tough for the cap to keep a high draft pick shelved for 4-5 years and then face extending him or trading him.

If Jimmy is playing well in 2021-22 season, yeah they'd have to look to trade Rosen.

Only way this works out is Jimmy plays well for a couple of seasons but gets hurt or his performance plateaus.

[CrimsonCrew]

Jimmy turned 26 in November.

By the end of his contract, if he lives up to it that they keep him for the length of the contract, he'll be 31-32?

Josh Rosen turned 21 in February. So he'd be 26-27, though they'd have to pick up his fifth year option. Could get tough for the cap to keep a high draft pick shelved for 4-5 years and then face extending him or trading him.

If Jimmy is playing well in 2021-22 season, yeah they'd have to look to trade Rosen.

Only way this works out is Jimmy plays well for a couple of seasons but gets hurt or his performance plateaus.

Oh, that's right. I was thinking Jimmy was older, but yeah, just turned 26 in November I think. (And I just typed 29 again; man, that's stuck in there.)