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2017-18 CFB SEASON / '18 NFL DRAFT

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Re: 2017-18 CFB SEASON / '18 NFL DRAFT 

Post#1741 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Mar 9, 2018 7:34 pm

wco81 wrote:Jimmy turned 26 in November.

By the end of his contract, if he lives up to it that they keep him for the length of the contract, he'll be 31-32?

Josh Rosen turned 21 in February. So he'd be 26-27, though they'd have to pick up his fifth year option. Could get tough for the cap to keep a high draft pick shelved for 4-5 years and then face extending him or trading him.

If Jimmy is playing well in 2021-22 season, yeah they'd have to look to trade Rosen.

Only way this works out is Jimmy plays well for a couple of seasons but gets hurt or his performance plateaus.


Yeah, it would create the situation the Pats were in with Brady and Garoppolo. Except Garoppolo would be much younger than Brady is. You'd have to try to trade Rosen. I guess the question is whether it's worth that high a pick to get what amounts to a security blanket.

Garoppolo could certainly take a step back. It happened to Kap - though Garoppolo is a much more conventional QB who the league wouldn't struggle to defend in the way they did with Kap early on. The team likely wouldn't have given Garoppolo the contract they did if they didn't have quite a bit of faith in him, though.
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Post#1742 » by ChrisPozz » Fri Mar 9, 2018 7:55 pm

Denzel Ward planning to bulk up for pro day

http://www.nfl.com/labs/rr/pathtothedraft/ward

Ohio State is notorious for having a faster surface. FYI.
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Post#1743 » by ChrisPozz » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:10 am

49ers on hand for Princeton quarterback’s pro day

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/114326-49ers-hand-princeton-quarterbacks-pro-day/

Interesting prospect. There's some things there that makes one want to take a longer peek. Originally signed with Vanderbilt coming out of high school but ended up changing his mind. Shoulder injury as a sophomore. Has some pretty decent ability. Kind of like his long ball accuracy compared to a lot of QBs available this year but I don't know if there's any other one thing that I love about him. Not sure yet if there's anything that I absolutely hate either.
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Post#1745 » by ChrisPozz » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:09 pm

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Post#1746 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:46 pm

ChrisPozz wrote:
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I need one of these in my living room.



Once you get something like that, invite us to your casa so we can all meet and have a 49ers Draft Party. Under one condition, 1z and Nolannonsense can’t be invited.
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Post#1747 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:50 pm

Orlando Brown - T - Sooners

A former NFL offensive line coach said that Oklahoma T Orlando Brown "would make me nervous to put out there at left tackle without any help."

The coach is a fan of Brown's size and length -- he checked out with 35-inch arms and an 85-inch wingspan at the NFL Scouting Combine -- and notes that "big guys with long arms can play a long time so you don't have to be the most skilled or the most athletic." The OL coach's comments came before the 6-foot-7, 345-pounder bombed out in athletic testing in Indianapolis. Brown ended up with a composite test score ranking in the zeroth percentile of NFL athletes. His disastrous combine has almost certainly unseated him from first-round contention, with NFL Media's Lance Zierlein relaying that multiple NFL teams are now viewing Brown as a Day 3 prospect.
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Post#1748 » by NinerSickness » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:47 am

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
ChrisPozz wrote:
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I need one of these in my living room.



Once you get something like that, invite us to your casa so we can all meet and have a 49ers Draft Party. Under one condition, 1z and Nolannonsense can’t be invited.


That seems a little excessive.

I'd stick with the magnets. You can't hack into a magnet. If it ain't broke(n), don't fix it.
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Post#1749 » by Dloading99 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:57 am

I'm all for Zeus Brown as a Day two or three pick. I think he's one of those guys like Cam Robinson who everybody talks crap about but he turns into a hotel. he reminds me of Flozel Adams. I like guys who can clear the field and he would be great as a left tackle or just for fun blocking for our running backs.
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Post#1750 » by NinerSickness » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:01 am

Dloading99 wrote:I'm all for Zeus Brown as a Day two or three pick. I think he's one of those guys like Cam Robinson who everybody talks crap about but he turns into a hotel. he reminds me of Flozel Adams. I like guys who can clear the field and he would be great as a left tackle or just for fun blocking for our running backs.


Wanted Cam Robinson over Foster. :(
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Post#1751 » by The Hack » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:39 pm

Do you guys think now we draft a LB for sure at 9?
With Sherman, we don't need to go CB and unless Nelson falls to 9 I'd think we need insurance for Foster. Plus (according to how most see the draft going) we'd have dibs on whoever they feel is the top LB in the draft
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Post#1752 » by CrimsonCrew » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:43 pm

The Hack wrote:Do you guys think now we draft a LB for sure at 9?
With Sherman, we don't need to go CB and unless Nelson falls to 9 I'd think we need insurance for Foster. Plus (according to how most see the draft going) we'd have dibs on whoever they feel is the top LB in the draft


I think we look to trade back first and foremost. If that's not possible, I do think Harold Landry could be on the table as he brings that one element that is clearly missing from out D, though 9 is high for him IMO. It's relatively unlikely we go CB now, which eliminates a couple of the more likely choices at 9. If we do stay put, LB has to be one of the spots we consider.
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Post#1753 » by wco81 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 6:36 pm

Why not have Sherman "mentor" someone like Ward?
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Post#1754 » by Ray_Dogg » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:14 pm

I think they might still sign another cheaper vet CB as insurance and depth. They need to have more experience at that position imo. Witherspoon gets mentored for now.

I think first round at this point is currently setup to be geared for a pass rusher. Either at 9 or after a trade down. There is just no way they can expect to compete next season with what we currently have. They have to either have a vet they are trading for or something. Why cut Dumervil? Something is up.
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Post#1755 » by CrimsonCrew » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:20 pm

Ray_Dogg wrote:I think they might still sign another cheaper vet CB as insurance and depth. They need to have more experience at that position imo. Witherspoon gets mentored for now.

I think first round at this point is currently setup to be geared for a pass rusher. Either at 9 or after a trade down. There is just no way they can expect to compete next season with what we currently have. They have to either have a vet they are trading for or something. Why cut Dumervil? Something is up.


I'm sure they'll still add at least one FA CB, and probably a younger player with size in the draft. With Sherman under contract, we still only have three CBs under contract, I think. Maybe Asa Jackson also got a futures contract, but he's an afterthought at this point.
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Re: 2017-18 CFB SEASON / '18 NFL DRAFT 

Post#1756 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:35 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
The Hack wrote:Do you guys think now we draft a LB for sure at 9?
With Sherman, we don't need to go CB and unless Nelson falls to 9 I'd think we need insurance for Foster. Plus (according to how most see the draft going) we'd have dibs on whoever they feel is the top LB in the draft


I think we look to trade back first and foremost. If that's not possible, I do think Harold Landry could be on the table as he brings that one element that is clearly missing from out D, though 9 is high for him IMO. It's relatively unlikely we go CB now, which eliminates a couple of the more likely choices at 9. If we do stay put, LB has to be one of the spots we consider.


I agree to some extent that the chances of us now drafting a corner at #9 has been reduced, however a player like Ward brings a different type of element that our defense is still lacking. Which is a dominant slot / nickel corner. He has the a ability to play inside or at the outside. Sherman is not as dominant as he once was in terms of him shadowing a receiver even if he were to line up on the slot. Ward is able to keep up with the shifty quick receivers in the slot he has no problem blanketing a receiver on the outside either. Therefore, I don’t necessarily quite believe that we would not draft a corner at pick number 9 if it comes down to it.

I’m not totally disagreeing with you guys because as soon as I read that we’ve signed him, I too immediately had the same thought (Nelson/Edmunds/Smith/Davenport). However if they’re still interested in adding a DB I think now their choices would be in this order:

1.) Fitzpatrick to play both slot and safety.
2.) Derwin James. John Lynch would go hard for him
3.) Ward. Again, he would instantly be an elite slot corner in the league.

That’s what I think they will end up doing if they add a DB with the 9th pick. Not necessarily what I want them to do.

They’re going to go hard after ARob as well. If they succeed in signing him, that will totally cause them to refrain from drafting a WR on day 1 and 2.

My guess so far based on what’s going on is
1) Trade back 2) Q. Nelson 3) Fitzpatrick 4) Edmunds 5) James 6) Smith 7)Vea 8) Davenport 9) Ward

Some of those guys I don’t even want at pick 9 (i.e. Fitz), simply what I think they’ll end up doing.
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Post#1757 » by The Hack » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:49 pm

Whatever happens....sure is nice to have some faith in the front office and coach again
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Post#1758 » by Ray_Dogg » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:48 pm

I’m still interested to see what comes of Greg Mabin as well. He’s got our size.
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Re: 2017-18 CFB SEASON / '18 NFL DRAFT 

Post#1759 » by NinerSickness » Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:17 am

Early bust-pick predictions: Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Marcus Davenport.

Not as high on Bradley Chubb, Denzel Ward or Roquab Smith as most, either.
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Re: 2017-18 CFB SEASON / '18 NFL DRAFT 

Post#1760 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:23 pm

D.J. Moore - WR - Terrapins

Rotoworld's Josh Norris believes Maryland WR D.J. Moore's 97th percentile athleticism shows up in games.

Norris presented Moore's games against Texas and UCF as evidence. On one snap, Moore slow played a cornerback in man coverage, forced him to take a false step, then sprinted to the corner of the end zone for a touchdown, displaying the multiple gears in his game. Against UCF, Moore fully extended for a catch over the middle but did not miss a beat when landing, returning to a full sprint to outrun the defense for another score. As the process goes along, Moore continues to propel towards a top two receiver selection.
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