2017-18 CFB SEASON / '18 NFL DRAFT

[Dodub]

Jets taking SQBK. Lost Jerick McKinnon in a way too steep bidding war to the niners means they have getting a RB as one of the higher priorities of their team. McCown and Bridgewater are great game managers, so I'm sure everyone in the Jets org is content with letting these QBs prove what they got this season.

This would be even worse to trade all that to move up for a RB?

You think they traded up for random 3rd QB still left on the board? I mean it's a possibility, but it's either Bo Jackson or random 3rd Qb

They absolutely traded up for a QB, there’s absolutely no doubt about it

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Jets trade #6 to Colts for #3, #37, #49, and 2019 2nd round pick

Jets taking SQBK. Lost Jerick McKinnon in a way too steep bidding war to the niners means they have getting a RB as one of the higher priorities of their team. McCown and Bridgewater are great game managers, so I'm sure everyone in the Jets org is content with letting these QBs prove what they got this season.

You're an idiot. That's not a move you would typically see an organization do for a player other than a QB.

[ChrisPozz]

49ers on hand for Georgia State CB Chandon Sullivan’s workout

http://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/114676-49ers-hand-georgia-state-chandon-sullivans-workout/

He's a 4-year starter with a school record 49 games of experience (44 starts). Team captain. He's the first football Academic All-American in Georgia State history (3.84 GPA in journalism).

School record 7 INTs in his career. Also the leader in PDs. Good length. Has skills that translate well to either man or zone. Reportedly takes to coaching very well. Can recover if beaten in short areas but struggles to catch up if beaten deep. Coaches will need to work on some hip stiffness. Tackling is average as he's more of a grabber and often needs a second and third man for the finish. Late-round pick with intangibles.

[I_am_1z]

Jets trade #6 to Colts for #3, #37, #49, and 2019 2nd round pick

Jets taking SQBK. Lost Jerick McKinnon in a way too steep bidding war to the niners means they have getting a RB as one of the higher priorities of their team. McCown and Bridgewater are great game managers, so I'm sure everyone in the Jets org is content with letting these QBs prove what they got this season.

You're an idiot. That's not a move you would typically see an organization do for a player other than a QB.

Which QB? They don't even have the option of selecting one of their top two. If there was certainty who either the Browns or Giants were selecting I'd be willing to jump on board the this has gotta be a QB train, but Sam Darnold hasn't thrown at all. Who's guaranteeing Darnold doesn't flop at his Pro Day and change some minds? He hasn't worked out anywhere just yet.

[wco81]

Saw a clip of Rosen on his pro day.

Said he works on learning to read coverages, says he's trying to make it the reason he stands out.

[Dodub]

Jets taking SQBK. Lost Jerick McKinnon in a way too steep bidding war to the niners means they have getting a RB as one of the higher priorities of their team. McCown and Bridgewater are great game managers, so I'm sure everyone in the Jets org is content with letting these QBs prove what they got this season.

You're an idiot. That's not a move you would typically see an organization do for a player other than a QB.

Which QB? They don't even have the option of selecting one of their top two. If there was certainty who either the Browns or Giants were selecting I'd be willing to jump on board the this has gotta be a QB train, but Sam Darnold hasn't thrown at all. Who's guaranteeing Darnold doesn't flop at his Pro Day and change some minds? He hasn't worked out anywhere just yet.

The Jets are selecting a QB, they are more likely to do so then the Giants (whom I also believe will select one). I don’t think it’s even up for debate at this point.

[I_am_1z]

You're an idiot. That's not a move you would typically see an organization do for a player other than a QB.

Which QB? They don't even have the option of selecting one of their top two. If there was certainty who either the Browns or Giants were selecting I'd be willing to jump on board the this has gotta be a QB train, but Sam Darnold hasn't thrown at all. Who's guaranteeing Darnold doesn't flop at his Pro Day and change some minds? He hasn't worked out anywhere just yet.

The Jets are selecting a QB, they are more likely to do so then the Giants (whom I also believe will select one). I don’t think it’s even up for debate at this point.

So you really think the Jet's brass just traded up for the third pick and said, "Okay, whichever one of these franchise QBs falls in our laps is the one we'll be taking." The fact you don't believe SQBK is in the realm of possibility is mindless. Now, I can't definitively say, SQBK is getting taken by the Jets but 99% sure he'll be taken in the top 3. The odds that there are three deserving QBs that will be picked consecutively right out the gate is the other 1%.

[ChrisPozz]

Which QB? They don't even have the option of selecting one of their top two. If there was certainty who either the Browns or Giants were selecting I'd be willing to jump on board the this has gotta be a QB train, but Sam Darnold hasn't thrown at all. Who's guaranteeing Darnold doesn't flop at his Pro Day and change some minds? He hasn't worked out anywhere just yet.

The Jets are selecting a QB, they are more likely to do so then the Giants (whom I also believe will select one). I don’t think it’s even up for debate at this point.

So you really think the Jet's brass just traded up for the third pick and said, "Okay, whichever one of these franchise QBs falls in our laps is the one we'll be taking." The fact you don't believe SQBK is in the realm of possibility is mindless. Now, I can't definitively say, SQBK is getting taken by the Jets but 99% sure he'll be taken in the top 3. The odds that there are three deserving QBs that will be picked consecutively right out the gate is the other 1%.

If they feel really good about the top quarterbacks this year, combined with some inkling of how they believe it'll fall based on their research, I strongly lean towards them going the QB route. I don't know of a hired personnel man in history who'd make that trade if they only liked 1 of the QBs even if it was the guy they felt most sure about falling to them. I can't name anybody that I've studied who I believe would push their luck with that.

Slightly different situation with the Rams and Eagles but the Eagles made their move feeling good about both Goff and Wentz. Obviously it was probably a little safer for them because they only had 2 evaluations to make as opposed to the likely 3 but there's a little history there of a team moving up roughly the same number of spots to take a QB that was the leftover guy.

Would they make that trade if they liked/loved two of the quarterbacks and didn't really like the other very much? I doubt that. Do I blindly think they don't have a preference? I absolutely do think they have a preference if forced.

Slight curve ball where I might differ with a lot of people. Would I tell somebody, "Yep, it's 100% that they take a QB?" No, I wouldn't do that. Why? Because I don't HAVE to tell anybody that. I rarely like throwing out the 100% stuff. Personnel men do weird/dumb stuff all the time in the NFL. (Actually, I'm not a huge Darnold guy other than him as a man and Allen scares me as a project so I'm not saying if you pass on either you're dumb). You won't hear me say it's 100% with a lot of things anymore.

If I'm another team trying to gauge what their plans are, the numerous reports of how they tried to handle the QB spot in FA gives me confidence that this move is for their quarterback and that they feel good about multiple guys. All 3? I don't know. More likely than not I think a part of them would feel comfortable with any one of the three.

In regards to Barkley specifically. I will repeat for the millionth time so none of his fans get upset that I think he's a special and unique back. I will repeat that I think he has one of the highest ceilings I've ever studied in a running back. He also has one of the lowest floors of all the top backs I've ever studied. Would I ever say the Jets will NOT take him? No, I wouldn't say that. Do I strongly believe they'll pass on him if he's there? Yes, I do think they'll pass on him if they're done moving.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

The Jets are selecting a QB, they are more likely to do so then the Giants (whom I also believe will select one). I don’t think it’s even up for debate at this point.

So you really think the Jet's brass just traded up for the third pick and said, "Okay, whichever one of these franchise QBs falls in our laps is the one we'll be taking." The fact you don't believe SQBK is in the realm of possibility is mindless. Now, I can't definitively say, SQBK is getting taken by the Jets but 99% sure he'll be taken in the top 3. The odds that there are three deserving QBs that will be picked consecutively right out the gate is the other 1%.

If they feel really good about the top quarterbacks this year, combined with some inkling of how they believe it'll fall based on their research, I strongly lean towards them going the QB route. I don't know of a hired personnel man in history who'd make that trade if they only liked 1 of the QBs even if it was the guy they felt most sure about falling to them. I can't name anybody that I've studied who I believe would push their luck with that.

Slightly different situation with the Rams and Eagles but the Eagles made their move feeling good about both Goff and Wentz. Obviously it was probably a little safer for them because they only had 2 evaluations to make as opposed to the likely 3 but there's a little history there of a team moving up roughly the same number of spots to take a QB that was the leftover guy.

Would they make that trade if they liked/loved two of the quarterbacks and didn't really like the other very much? I doubt that. Do I blindly think they don't have a preference? I absolutely do think they have a preference if forced.

Slight curve ball where I might differ with a lot of people. Would I tell somebody, "Yep, it's 100% that they take a QB?" No, I wouldn't do that. Why? Because I don't HAVE to tell anybody that. I rarely like throwing out the 100% stuff. Personnel men do weird/dumb stuff all the time in the NFL. (Actually, I'm not a huge Darnold guy other than him as a man and Allen scares me as a project so I'm not saying if you pass on either you're dumb). You won't hear me say it's 100% with a lot of things anymore.

If I'm another team trying to gauge what their plans are, the numerous reports of how they tried to handle the QB spot in FA gives me confidence that this move is for their quarterback and that they feel good about multiple guys. All 3? I don't know. More likely than not I think a part of them would feel comfortable with any one of the three.

In regards to Barkley specifically. I will repeat for the millionth time so none of his fans get upset that I think he's a special and unique back. I will repeat that I think he has one of the highest ceilings I've ever studied in a running back. He also has one of the lowest floors of all the top backs I've ever studied. Would I ever say the Jets will NOT take him? No, I wouldn't say that. Do I strongly believe they'll pass on him if he's there? Yes, I do think they'll pass on him if they're done moving.

A great analysis/statement made by Jikkle:

“With the Jets trade odds are 2 if not all 3 of the top 3 picks will be QBs.

If Browns we're tempted at waiting until 4 to pick a QB the Jets trade will force them to not risk it and take their guy at #1 overall.”

[Dloading99]

This is obvious the Jets are going to get a Quarterback. DONT GET THIS TWISTED

1. Cleveland Browns for sure will be drafting Sam Darnold.

My L.A. connection I can give yall the rundown. Hue Jackson Dorsey High School same high school as Keshawn Johnson Former Offensive coordinator of Carson Palmer Santa Margarita High School Orange County. Sam Darnold San Clemente South Orange County.

Hue is still a big L.A. guy and he's been obsessed with Sam Darnold since that rose bowl. he even tanked to ensure they got him. They think Sam Darnold is the Next Tom Brady Aron Rodgers. they just see him as a winner. he even got flagrant saying Tyrod Taylor is their starter. smoke screen the Josh Allen stuff Smokescreen. acquiring all the talent Carlos Hyde Jarvis Landry that's cause they are getting Weapons for Darnold. he's their guy.


2. New York Giants not even Close Saquaon New Jersey Barkley. he's been a super kid beast since he got to Penn State said he was going to break every record. extra hard worker. this a character pick and the New York Giants like guys like these. They didn't get Todd Gurley they are going to make sure they get this guy. so they finally get their running back. and with Odell Beckham you have Emmitt Smith Micheal Irvin. you can't put 10 in the box with Barkley and you can't double Odell cause Barkley will destroy you. this helps Eli who everyone wants to play and their fan base. plus they have Davis Webb they won't draft the Quarterback. this is all about Saquon. and the signing of Solier just shows that more. they are going to run run and grind and have Eli throw to his playmakers like Odell.

3. New York Jets Josh Manhattan Beach Los Angeles Gettin Crunk Rosen. he was the most talked about number one pick prospect since high school. the Jets fell like they get a can't miss prospect who is a number one talent. they traded up and reached for Mark Sanchez a USC guy. they are obsessed with the L.A. star Quarterback. and they are going to reach for this one. only this time they are getting a pro bowl talent. you put him with some receviers that really made good strides last season and you have a good team coming up after the Patriots are done. Rosen is 6,5 pocket passer same type of prototype as Brady big arm California guy. UCLA pocket passer like Aikman. so they get their guy.

This was put in motion after John Elway Granada Hills high los Angeles had a love affair with Rosen and Broncos were poised to draft him and have Keenum mentor him just like he did Goff all the Extra stuff with Elway I got my Guy was all smokescreen Elway over did it. I'm looking at Denver all but sure getting Josh Allen now. who a lot of NFL people like.

4. Browns Bradley Chubb to put on the other side of Myles Garret.

5. Broncos

6. Colts Quentin Nelson Andrew Luck gets a great lineman to put on that line with another great lineman Kelly.

7. Buccaneers Darwin James Florida State or Denzel Ward Ohio State.

8. Chicago Bears Calvin Ridley

9. San Francisco Minkah Fitzpatrick. Niners get their Earl Thomas to put in a defensive backfield with Richard Sherman And Akella Witherspoon and add to a up and coming defense with Reuben Foster and Deforest Buckner.

[Bald Bull]

9. San Francisco Minkah Fitzpatrick. Niners get their Earl Thomas to put in a defensive backfield with Richard Sherman And Will Witherspoon and add to a up and coming defense with Reuben Foster and Deforest Buckner.

I hope not. Why would we bring him out of retirement?

[Dloading99]

not literally Akella Witherspoon.

[Bald Bull]

not literally Akella Witherspoon.

[wco81]

Do you really think teams care which part of SoCal prospects grew up in?

[Dodub]

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[NinerSickness]

Now that the Niners have a center, and the odds of Nelson dropping to 9 (or trading up) are very small, I'm warming to the idea of trading down and taking Harold Landry in the late 1st.

The next-best player after Nelson (non-QB) is Isaiah Wynn IMO. I'd take him ahead of Landry. But I think Wynn will surprise people with how highly he's drafted. Wouldn't surprise me if he went top 12.

However, Landry's going to be a 8-10-sack guy IMO. He'd instantly be the best pass rusher on the team if he were drafted. And since pass rushers almost never get cut, Landry's probably the only chance to get a 10-sack guy this offseason.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

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Chilll Adam. Don’t tell 1z that.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Now that the Niners have a center, and the odds of Nelson dropping to 9 (or trading up) are very small, I'm warming to the idea of trading down and taking Harold Landry in the late 1st.

The next-best player after Nelson (non-QB) is Isaiah Wynn IMO. I'd take him ahead of Landry. But I think Wynn will surprise people with how highly he's drafted. Wouldn't surprise me if he went top 12.

However, Landry's going to be a 8-10-sack guy IMO. He'd instantly be the best pass rusher on the team if he were drafted. And since pass rushers almost never get cut, Landry's probably the only chance to get a 10-sack guy this offseason.

I want Ward more than anyone on that list. Again, based on your list only my preference would be in this order:
1.) Trade back
2.) Ward
3.) Nelson
4.) Davenport
5.) Hernandez
6.) Wynn
7.) Landry

Wynn could very well be a better prospect than Hernandez, but Hernandez just reminds me so much of R. Incognito that I’m willing to rate him slightly ahead of Wynn. But at the end of the day you can’t go wrong with either or.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Josh Rosen - QB - Bruins

A large contingent of key NFL evaluators were at UCLA QB Josh Rosen's pro day workout last week.

Among those in attendance, New York Jets GM Mike Maccagnan, Cincinnati Bengals HC Marvin Lewis, Denver Broncos GM John Elway and coach Vance Joseph, Los Angeles Chargers HC Anthony Lynn, Atlanta Falcons GM Thomas Dimitroff and Cleveland Browns VP of Player Personnel Alonzo Highsmith. The Jets, Broncos and Browns, specifically, are possible destinations for Rosen. "I thought he threw the ball beautifully. By the way, not a surprise," NFL Network draft expert Mike Mayock said of the workout. "The most natural thrower in the draft. Clear feet. Clear vision. He's beautiful. His issue is going to be, in my opinion, durability and the ability to survive in the NFL pocket." Rosen is Rotoworld's No. 1 quarterback in the class.
Source: NFL.com

Mar 18 - 3:14 PM

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Kolton Miller - T - Bruins

UCLA OT Kolton Miller has a workout scheduled with the San Francisco 49ers and an official visit set with the Dallas Cowboys.

Miller (6'8/310) met with the Seattle Seahawks, Carolina Panthers and Atlanta Falcons at his pro day workout last week. Miller stood on his combine numbers -- no surprise since he tested as the class' most-athletic OL -- but looked good in drills. "He’s a long, lean tackle who moved well about the field," Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline wrote. "I was surprised to find out that many teams feel he’ll stay at left tackle in the NFL, as I’ve always viewed Miller as a right tackle prospect. Scouts love his upside and feel he has the agility to stay on the blind side."
Source: Draft Analyst

Mar 18 - 1:56 PM