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Post#1841 » by ChrisPozz » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:58 pm

Examining the route trees of the 2018 NFL Draft CBs - Josh Jackson

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Post#1843 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:10 pm

Calvin Ridley - WR - Crimson Tide

Alabama WR Calvin Ridley will visit the Cowboys prior to the 2018 NFL Draft.

This visit certainly makes sense. The Cowboys have an obvious need at wide receiver, both as a second pass catcher and possible No. 1 option with Dez Bryant's time in Dallas possibly running out. Ridley is an easy evaluation from the standpoint of creating separation and sustaining it. He's not going to consistently when in contested situations and his athletic testing was very poor, but Ridley has clear winning areas.
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Post#1844 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:11 pm

Will Hernandez - G - Miners

The Cowboys scheduled a pre-draft visit with UTEP G Will Hernandez.

Despite deploying three of the NFL's best offensive linemen and a promising player in La'El Collins, the Cowboys front five continues to be in a transition period. It is clear the Cowboys are trying to figure out where Collins will start in 2018, so expect them to look into both guards and tackles. Hernandez will be a top 50 selection.
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Post#1845 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:13 pm

Kevin Toliver II - DB - Tigers

NFL Media's Lance Zierlein compares LSU CB Kevin Toliver II to Colts CB Quincy Wilson.

Toliver has exceptional size (6'3/204), and in all honesty, that's the best thing going for the former LSU defensive back. "Toliver lacks premium ball skills but his size and physicality could be a good match for a zone-heavy unit or with a potential move to safety," writes Zierlein. A team that falls in love with big-bodies corners -- we're looking at you, Seattle -- could take him earlier, but because of his inconsistent play, Toliver II probably goes in Day 3.
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Post#1846 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:16 pm

NinerSickness wrote:Early bust-pick predictions: Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Marcus Davenport.

Not as high on Bradley Chubb, Denzel Ward or Roquab Smith as most, either.



Sam Darnold - QB - Trojans

NFL media analyst Daniel Jeremiah ranks USC QB Sam Darnold as the top quarterback prospect of the last three years.

Darnold comes in just ahead of former North Dakota State/current Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz, with Jeremiah saying that Darnold's durability and level of competition giving him the slight edge. Darnold (6'3/221) had an inconsistent redshirt sophomore season, but it seems the flashes of brilliance he's shown over the last few years are just too tough to ignore for most analysts, including Jeremiah. It'd be a major upset if he didn't go in the first five picks.
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Post#1847 » by Ray_Dogg » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:29 pm

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NinerSickness wrote:Early bust-pick predictions: Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Marcus Davenport.

Not as high on Bradley Chubb, Denzel Ward or Roquab Smith as most, either.



Sam Darnold - QB - Trojans

NFL media analyst Daniel Jeremiah ranks USC QB Sam Darnold as the top quarterback prospect of the last three years.

Darnold comes in just ahead of former North Dakota State/current Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz, with Jeremiah saying that Darnold's durability and level of competition giving him the slight edge. Darnold (6'3/221) had an inconsistent redshirt sophomore season, but it seems the flashes of brilliance he's shown over the last few years are just too tough to ignore for most analysts, including Jeremiah. It'd be a major upset if he didn't go in the first five picks.
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DJ is trippin balls, Darnold has a long way to go. I’m team Rosen in this draft class.

No way I would have Darnold rated above Mariota, Winston, Goff, Wentz, Watson, Mahomes, Rosen and Mayfield.
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Post#1848 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:32 pm

Ray_Dogg wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
NinerSickness wrote:Early bust-pick predictions: Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Marcus Davenport.

Not as high on Bradley Chubb, Denzel Ward or Roquab Smith as most, either.



Sam Darnold - QB - Trojans

NFL media analyst Daniel Jeremiah ranks USC QB Sam Darnold as the top quarterback prospect of the last three years.

Darnold comes in just ahead of former North Dakota State/current Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Carson Wentz, with Jeremiah saying that Darnold's durability and level of competition giving him the slight edge. Darnold (6'3/221) had an inconsistent redshirt sophomore season, but it seems the flashes of brilliance he's shown over the last few years are just too tough to ignore for most analysts, including Jeremiah. It'd be a major upset if he didn't go in the first five picks.
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Darnold has a long way to go. I’m team Rosen in this draft class.


I like both. Throw in Jackson in that group as well.
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Post#1849 » by I_am_1z » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:20 pm

Christian Campbell with the 41" vertical and the 11'3" broad jump :lol:
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Post#1850 » by NinerSickness » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:26 am

I_am_1z wrote:Christian Campbell with the 41" vertical and the 11'3" broad jump :lol:


Is this gonna turn out to be like Byron Jones who you said was the best CB in the draft, and I said "LOL, that guy's a safety prospect in the NFL (before anyone else said anything to that respect)," and then said, "I'm clearly better than you at this?" 8-)



...BTW, this is nothing against Christian Campbell. I have to see more of him. But I think you've achieved homer status.
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Post#1851 » by NinerSickness » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:46 am

Everything about Harold Landry is screaming "Terrell Suggs" IMO. I'm starting to think he won't be there if the Niners trade down.
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Post#1852 » by Dloading99 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 6:36 am

Jerimiah is Trippin.

Rosen is the Clear Number one in this draft and that's why the Jets moved up to get him.

When he came to UCLA he was the unquestioned number one pick for sure. Pocket Presence. Pocket Poise Arm Strength Accuracy.

Darnold has a problem with Accuracy and that's a real issue for me in the NFL can you throw in the tight windows can you make all the throws all over the field. Darnold can do that. but where is his accuracy. I see a very similar Mark Sanchez mobility and Sanchez had head scratching throws. Both won Rose Bowls against Penn State. both around 6,2 so Look at Rosen and you see Troy Aikman 6,4 6.5. like I say if we got a chance to draft him lets draft him.
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Post#1853 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:19 pm

Josh Rosen - QB - Player

According to Bruce Feldman of Fox Sports 1, UCLA QB Josh Rosen worked out for the Browns and Giants on Tuesday.

Per Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Browns will also work out Sam Darnold on Wednesday and Josh Allen at his Wyoming Pro Day on Friday. At one point it looked like Browns might draft Saquon Barkley first overall while waiting until No. 4 to address their quarterback need, but the Jets eliminated that possibility by trading up to No. 3. It's too early to tell where the Browns are leaning but it's safe to assume one of Rosen, Darnold, Allen or Baker Mayfield will be chosen with the first pick.
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Josh Rosen - QB - Bruins

Updating a previous item, Bruce Feldman notes the Bills worked out UCLA QB Josh Rosen on Sunday.

That means Rosen has already completed three private workouts, with the Bills, Giants and Browns. The latter two are already in position for a quarterback, but the Bills are not as they currently sit at No. 12. Expectations are that the Bills package multiple picks to move up, possibly to No. 2 or No. 4.
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Post#1854 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:25 pm

Ronald Jones - RB - Player

Redskins coach Jay Gruden said there is a "good possibility" the team selects a running back early in the draft.

Washington just selected Samaje Perine in the fourth round of last year's draft, but they are apparently looking for a better partner for Chris Thompson. The 13th overall pick is too late to nab Saquon Barkley and probably too early to select any of the other running backs, but the Redskins could look to grab someone in the second round. USC's Ronald Jones and the Georgia duo of Sony Michel and Nick Chubb could be options then.
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Post#1855 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:28 pm

Roquan Smith - LB - Bulldogs

NFL Media's Tiffany Blackmon spoke to one NFL personnel member who called Georgia LB Roquan Smith "bulletproof."

Our own Josh Norris believes Smith is a top five player in this class and the best off-ball linebacker of the group. He's a true sideline to sideline defender who wants to meet ball carriers behind or at the line of scrimmage. The Bears, Raiders and 49ers make a ton of sense for Smith.
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Post#1856 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:02 pm

Derwin James - DB - Seminoles

The MMQB's Albert Breer passes along word that NFL teams "are split" on FSU S Derwin James.

"Some see a guy who’s more athlete than player, and point to effort issues last year," Breer writes, stating others see a Kam Chancellor type who still needed time to recover from an injury. We don't see Kam Chancellor, but we do see an outstanding safety prospect who has experience playing further away from the ball in split safety looks as well as near the line of scrimmage or in the slot. Add in incredible athleticism and James should be considered a top 10 prospect in this class.
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Post#1857 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:06 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:Roquan Smith - LB - Bulldogs

NFL Media's Tiffany Blackmon spoke to one NFL personnel member who called Georgia LB Roquan Smith "bulletproof."

Our own Josh Norris believes Smith is a top five player in this class and the best off-ball linebacker of the group. He's a true sideline to sideline defender who wants to meet ball carriers behind or at the line of scrimmage. The Bears, Raiders and 49ers make a ton of sense for Smith.
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I get that many feel like he doesn't have a lot of flaws and could be seen as one of the easier projectable players in this class. But I kind of got a chuckle that someone used the word "bulletproof" with him when there's a section of the draft community that have varying degrees of worry if the guy's body will literally break down on him at a faster rate than a lot of defenders.

He's had several small, nagging injuries that have required he miss practice time before, during, and after the season. The fact he went to the combine and experienced a little hamstring tightness didn't ease thoughts, though it probably didn't and one shouldn't knock him too much for that one because it was likely more of a precaution on that one than anything.

He's had a shoulder, wrist surgery, a torn pectoral, and multiple hamstring injuries. Has it resulted in tons of missed games? No, so far it hasn't.

On a personal level. I've had concerns/thoughts if his style is going to contribute to more nagging issues for him in the NFL. You watch him and he's a definite missile player but if his body is going to fail him it isn't hard to see why his style might be a cause for it. He really throws himself around and uses his speed over sound techniques when taking on contact and tackling.

His medical re-check all came back OK so that's good. Not saying there would be concerns he's not ready for you day one outside of a re-injure. I do think there's quite a bit there with him that does make him one of the safer new age players on MANY levels. But if I'm thinking about it from a coaching perspective. I am IMMEDIATELY going in to the marriage with him telling him he has to be a better technician with physicality and tackling because I worry his body is not going to hold up with his past if he tries to do the same kind of stuff in the NFL.
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Post#1858 » by ChrisPozz » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:11 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:Derwin James - DB - Seminoles

The MMQB's Albert Breer passes along word that NFL teams "are split" on FSU S Derwin James.

"Some see a guy who’s more athlete than player, and point to effort issues last year," Breer writes, stating others see a Kam Chancellor type who still needed time to recover from an injury. We don't see Kam Chancellor, but we do see an outstanding safety prospect who has experience playing further away from the ball in split safety looks as well as near the line of scrimmage or in the slot. Add in incredible athleticism and James should be considered a top 10 prospect in this class.
Source: The MMQB

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The Kam Chancellor stuff drives me crazy. There isn't another Kam Chancellor. I am VERY unsure there'll be another Kam Chancellor. (Yes, I had maybe the highest opinion on him of anybody I knew of in my personal circle). Do I see Kam Chancellor-light traits? I guess I get part of it but I don't love the comparison. But I'm not a huge comp guy either. I think most of them are pretty dumb but I get why people do them.

I'm also relatively high on DJ. I'm not knocking DJ. I think DJ can do some pretty awesome things and there aren't a lot of others like DJ. DJ the guy is one of the best in this draft. He's one of the most likable guys from a coaching perspective available this year. I love his movement skills and his translation to a number of defenses is very good IMO. I think there's better scheme versatility than most players. But even if he hits his ceiling I don't have it as a Chancellor ceiling. Chancellor is another breed, or was. IMO
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Post#1859 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Mar 21, 2018 3:30 pm

NinerSickness wrote:Everything about Harold Landry is screaming "Terrell Suggs" IMO. I'm starting to think he won't be there if the Niners trade down.


I think there's a fair chance he'll still be there if they move down to 12. Past that, I wouldn't hold my breath. Though there are plenty of mocks still coming out with Landry in the 20s and 30s.
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Post#1860 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:42 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
NinerSickness wrote:Everything about Harold Landry is screaming "Terrell Suggs" IMO. I'm starting to think he won't be there if the Niners trade down.


I think there's a fair chance he'll still be there if they move down to 12. Past that, I wouldn't hold my breath. Though there are plenty of mocks still coming out with Landry in the 20s and 30s.


I don’t see the Suggs comparisons at all. Other than that they’re quick off the ball and also they don’t mind causing the initial contact with big offensive lineman. They have great technique to disengage despite their smaller sizes going against bigger men. I noticed that the majority of the fans here are extremely high on Landry. He’s good but not great IMO. I don’t think he’s worth a top 20 pick, let a lone a top ten. He’s definitely graded as a first rounder in my books but he’s not uniquely awesome to spend such a high pick on the guy.

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