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Post#21 » by RIPskaterdude » Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:30 am

ahonui06 wrote:3rd round pick: Off the field issues and admitting marijuana toking Navorro Bowman. Singletary is going to have his work cut out for him with Anthony Davis and Bowman lol.

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Most mocks said that on talent alone, he was a 1st round pick....so that's good for us! If his only off the field issues are a simple fight (no chargers were filled) and toking it up, why not pick him in the 3rd round? I bet this will be the steal of the 3rd round.
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Post#22 » by St.Nick » Sat Apr 24, 2010 11:24 am

I think Mays ends up a LB after being unable to be an effective safety in coverage. All you gotta do is put 20lbs on him and he becomes one of the leagues most athletic OLB's (next to P-Willie).

Hope he has the brain to make the adjustment to the NFL.
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Post#23 » by a8bil » Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:21 pm

ahonui06 wrote:3rd round pick: Off the field issues and admitting marijuana toking Navorro Bowman. Singletary is going to have his work cut out for him with Anthony Davis and Bowman lol.

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I think Singletary fancies himself too much to be the "thug whisperer." Okay,...maybe "thug" is not the appropriate word to describe these projects, but he seems to be accepting of these troubled players in the belief he can change them. Problem is that (i) some guys can't be changed (see Lawrence Phillips, Maurice Clarett); and (ii) get enough of these guys together and you have the critical mass to take down a team.
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Post#24 » by a8bil » Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:36 pm

St.Nick wrote:I think Mays ends up a LB after being unable to be an effective safety in coverage. All you gotta do is put 20lbs on him and he becomes one of the leagues most athletic OLB's (next to P-Willie).

Hope he has the brain to make the adjustment to the NFL.


I think the coverage thing is a bit overblown. Yeah, there have been some high profile plays where Mays blew coverage. In my view, he seems to be reading the QB too much without keeping track of the receiver. That's correctable...and no I do not believe that just because he was coached by Pete Carroll, he should have already learned it. Carroll is a figure head I'm sure was not coaching DBs.

Set that aside. Here are some other factors: (a) Mays will be playing strong safety and will have fewer obligation to "play centerfield" for the 49ers, which is where he was exposed in the Trojans' defensive scheme; (b) Mays will provide intimidation which will keep players from coming over the middle and those that do will be short-arming passes in anticipation of the hit; (c) a vast majority of his play will be "in the box" where he will be effectively like a linebacker; (d) he's got incredible speed, which will allow him to make up for any delayed reactions...and that will be more so true because he will have fewer assignments covering WRs.

Personally, even if the doesn't become the next Dawkins or Sean Taylor, I think we got a steal...few players have the upside that Mays does.
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Post#25 » by ahonui06 » Sat Apr 24, 2010 6:25 pm

I mean honestly can Taylor Mays be any worse than Michael Lewis or Mark Roman? This is an automatic upgrade at the SS position. I highly doubt SF moves Mays to LB either.
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Post#26 » by ahonui06 » Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:20 pm

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Another bruising RB who blocks, can catch decently out of the backfield, and managed almost 1400 yards in the offseason.

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49ers get a blocking TE with the middle 6th round pick but I highly doubt he makes the final roster with Vernon Davis and Delanie Walker already on the roster.
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49ers get a potential KR/PR with Kyle Williams. Undersized WR at 5'10",185. I don't think he will make the final roster with Ted Ginn Jr. being drafted.
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Post#27 » by ahonui06 » Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:01 pm

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49ers finally draft a CB in the 7th round. We will see how he does.
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Post#28 » by RIPskaterdude » Sat Apr 24, 2010 8:19 pm

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49ers finally draft a CB in the 7th round. We will see how he does.


He seems to be very excited to be picked by the 49ers :lol:
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Post#29 » by old rem » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:05 pm

ahonui06 wrote:49ers get a steal in the 2nd round with Taylor Mays. ivang can have an orgasm now. I actually agree with him that Mays is a good safety, just not in the 1st round.
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Mays has not quite played up to his elite raw tools,but he's not junk either. Just about LB size yet a speedy S

A Davis....scares me. I LIKE Iupata and won't be surprised much if he actually emerges as the T that Davis was supposed to be. NOT DRAFTING A Q ? Alex Smith? WTF? Tebow went cheap...McCoy went CRAZY cheap...after the first day of practice,McCoy would be ahead of Smith. Tony Pike lasted past 200 and the Niner's slept on that chance.

A guy I HOPED the Niners picked was Gerhart. If it takes 6-7 men to tackle him, then you don't NEED the world's best O-line. Love Gore but he's not able to run it 30-40 times. Some plays with both Gore+ Gerhart in would have been great.
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Post#30 » by and1GS » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:37 pm

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ivang101 wrote:Next step: Osi Umenyiora


Umenyiora is a little bitch. All he does is complain. He should shut up and try and improve and get back into the starting lineup.


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OSI UMENYIORA IZ TEH BEST

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He thought he was all that after one good season. Sad thing is, he was almost "all that" but then he got injured and his ego ate him alive.
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Post#31 » by and1GS » Sat Apr 24, 2010 9:38 pm

A guy I HOPED the Niners picked was Gerhart. If it takes 6-7 men to tackle him, then you don't NEED the world's best O-line.


Saw this coming from a MILE away.
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Post#32 » by ahonui06 » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:31 am

old rem do you realize that Taylor Mays ran the 40 in 4.35 seconds? And unofficially in 4.25? That's not LB speed.
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Post#33 » by The Hack » Sun Apr 25, 2010 1:52 am

I'm pretty happy with this draft...we did need help on the o-line so I'm OK with the 2 first picks. At least we can see if Balke(sp)/Sing know what they are doing evaluation-wise
I think the Mays pick was awesome and maybe they turn Navarro into the pass-rusher that Lawson never turned into. I had hoped that they would take a flier on Selvie in the later rounds but whatever. Add in Ginn for KR and Laboy and I think we had a great off-season
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Post#34 » by thesack12 » Sun Apr 25, 2010 2:36 am

Like the Bowman and Dixon picks. Navorro has an opportunity to be P.Willis' longterm right hand man after Takeo retires. Dixon has some mileage on him, but he has some talent and won't be needed to shoulder a heavy load.

Hated the Taylor Mays pick, but I can live with him in the second. But its only a matter of time til he gets exposed and they try to convert him into a LB. In other words, the bust confirmation countdown is on.

Wish they would have passed on the no name WR late in the 6th and got Myron Rolle who went with the next pick.
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Post#35 » by a8bil » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:22 am

Re Mays...go to Youtube and search for Taylor Mays real 40 yard time at the combine. They do a superimposed comparison race and Mays comes out faster than everyone but Jacoby Ford. Faster than Jahvid Best. He's VERY fast. The moaning about his coverage skills are overblown. He's made plenty of good coverage plays. he's blown a few, but they're absolutely correctable and he won't be as exposed in the 49er system as he was with the Trojans.

The "unknown" receiver in teh 6th round? He's a legit 4.3 40 runner with good hands. He's got more upside than Ginn in my opinion
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Post#36 » by thesack12 » Sun Apr 25, 2010 3:21 pm

Raw speed doesn't hurt but it also doesn't equal NFL success.

Speed is an measurable attribute not a skill. I prefer football players to have skills. Case in point: Darius Heyward Bey.

I'l admit I know nothing about the WR in the 6th. Obviously I hope he pans out, but didn't Singletary say he wanted "winners"? Not many bigger winners in the entire draft than Myron Rolle. Some of the guys they did pick up, not so much. I'm looking at you Davis, Mays, Bowman, Blount.
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Post#37 » by and1GS » Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:52 pm

ahonui06 wrote:old rem do you realize that Taylor Mays ran the 40 in 4.35 seconds? And unofficially in 4.25? That's not LB speed.


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Post#38 » by Hotstove907 » Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:36 pm

Taylor Mays will not play LB for this team. At USC he played way out of position alot. (Pete's fault?) Hard to compare the kid to a Hall of famer but he has alot of Ronnie Lott traits. Adding him and Bowman to this defense makes them even meaner and are exactly the type of players Mike loves to have on his D. Top ten D if the Secondary stays healthy.
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Post#39 » by a8bil » Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:37 pm

True, straight speed does not guarantee success, but it is an asset for DBs...and it helps compensate for errors in angles, and slow recognition of play development. I like skills guys too, but without speed, a lot of them don't have a chance. Take Dante Hughes...when he was at Cal, he showed fantastic skills. Barely got a look at the Colts. May not last long at San Diego...he's only missing speed from his game.

Yeah...I'm a bit worried on Singletary's apparent fixation on these guys with off the field questions...I can believe he can work with one, maybe two...but 4?
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Post#40 » by ahonui06 » Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:08 pm

I honestly don't care if Mays blows coverages once in awhile because can he honestly be worse than Mark Roman or Michael Lewis? Mays is gonna be a definite upgrade.

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