ImageImageImageImageImage

The GTFO Jimmy Thread

Moderators: MHSL82, CalamityX12

arich35
General Manager
Posts: 8,826
And1: 924
Joined: Mar 04, 2014
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#21 » by arich35 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:38 am

Jimmy had a lot of limitations but I am not going to dog him, with him as a QB we made it to a Super Bowl and Conference Championship. He is a stand up guy and a great teammate especially this year when he knew he was on his way out. Good luck to him with his next team.
User avatar
RIPskaterdude
RealGM
Posts: 92,790
And1: 37,015
Joined: Jul 10, 2003
Location: #MakeAmericaGreatAgain
   

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#22 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:39 am

arich35 wrote:Jimmy had a lot of limitations but I am not going to dog him, with him as a QB we made it to a Super Bowl and Conference Championship. He is a stand up guy and a great teammate especially this year when he knew he was on his way out. Good luck to him with his next team.
They made it there despite of him, not because him
Image
thesack12
RealGM
Posts: 20,302
And1: 2,624
Joined: Jun 06, 2008
Location: N DA NAP
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#23 » by thesack12 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:40 am

arich35 wrote:Jimmy had a lot of limitations but I am not going to dog him, with him as a QB we made it to a Super Bowl and Conference Championship. He is a stand up guy and a great teammate especially this year when he knew he was on his way out. Good luck to him with his next team.


SHHHH, you're going to ruin the narrative.
Samurai
General Manager
Posts: 8,897
And1: 3,113
Joined: Jul 01, 2014
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#24 » by Samurai » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:42 am

Maybe other teams will see how dominant Jimmy was today and will trade us a first and a third for him. Or maybe a bag of popcorn; either one will be a win for us.
arich35
General Manager
Posts: 8,826
And1: 924
Joined: Mar 04, 2014
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#25 » by arich35 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:45 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:
arich35 wrote:Jimmy had a lot of limitations but I am not going to dog him, with him as a QB we made it to a Super Bowl and Conference Championship. He is a stand up guy and a great teammate especially this year when he knew he was on his way out. Good luck to him with his next team.
They made it there despite of him, not because him


I didn't say they made it because of him just he was the QB. You can't stay he didn't at least help get us where we were, it was a nice little run with this team and in 2019. Time to move on to hopefully a better QB and offensive line
Bingo_AlphaMan
General Manager
Posts: 9,832
And1: 229
Joined: Aug 24, 2014
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#26 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:08 am

clyde21 wrote:it's actually mind bending there is still Jimmy G simping on this board.



It’s mind boggling Clyde. I get why women don’t want us to move on from Jimmy. I’ve heard them say things like “he’s incredibly handsome. He has a Hollywood model type look / attractiveness”. Nothing to do with his level of playing, but rather his defined jawline—at least I get it why they want him to stay.

But when you see straight men continuously defend his play, it just makes me wonder about their level of understanding of the game of football. I honestly think if we had Jameis Winston, Derek Carr, or any other above average QB that has the guts to throw bombs, this team would have won the SB.
Bingo_AlphaMan
General Manager
Posts: 9,832
And1: 229
Joined: Aug 24, 2014
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#27 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:14 am

thesack12 wrote:
arich35 wrote:Jimmy had a lot of limitations but I am not going to dog him, with him as a QB we made it to a Super Bowl and Conference Championship. He is a stand up guy and a great teammate especially this year when he knew he was on his way out. Good luck to him with his next team.


SHHHH, you're going to ruin the narrative.


Fellas. Jimmy is probably the best person in the world to become friends with. However, we’re assessing his play as a QB. Im not calling him a bad human being or a terrible teammate like Antonio Brown. We’re discussing his “work performance”.
arich35
General Manager
Posts: 8,826
And1: 924
Joined: Mar 04, 2014
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#28 » by arich35 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:21 am

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
thesack12 wrote:
arich35 wrote:Jimmy had a lot of limitations but I am not going to dog him, with him as a QB we made it to a Super Bowl and Conference Championship. He is a stand up guy and a great teammate especially this year when he knew he was on his way out. Good luck to him with his next team.


SHHHH, you're going to ruin the narrative.


Fellas. Jimmy is probably the best person in the world to become friends with. However, we’re assessing his play as a QB. Im not calling him a bad human being or a terrible teammate like Antonio Brown. We’re discussing his “work performance”.


He was average, sometimes good, sometimes bad. My first six words were "Jimmy had a lot of limitations"
There was do doubt he wasn't good enough but he did at least help us have some success and helped bring some fun memories. He has a handful of good drives to win some games, just seems like the biggest stages he wasn't up to it as well as Kyle. Now I am willing to give a pass to Kyle because of the limitations his QB had, we will see the next few years what he is able to do with Lance.
thesack12
RealGM
Posts: 20,302
And1: 2,624
Joined: Jun 06, 2008
Location: N DA NAP
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#29 » by thesack12 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:31 am

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
clyde21 wrote:it's actually mind bending there is still Jimmy G simping on this board.



It’s mind boggling Clyde. I get why women don’t want us to move on from Jimmy. I’ve heard them say things like “he’s incredibly handsome. He has a Hollywood model type look / attractiveness”. Nothing to do with his level of playing, but rather his defined jawline—at least I get it why they want him to stay.

But when you see straight men continuously defend his play, it just makes me wonder about their level of understanding of the game of football. I honestly think if we had Jameis Winston, Derek Carr, or any other above average QB that has the guts to throw bombs, this team would have won the SB.


This post is quite offensive...

But looking past the personal insults, Maybe some of us think that Garoppolo isn't terrible because of:

Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


I swear, the Garoppolo haters are the only segment of NFL fans where winning doesn't matter.

And yeah, Jameis "lead the league in Interceptions (with THIRTY of them)" Winston would certainly have been a better option than Garoppolo
User avatar
clyde21
RealGM
Posts: 63,542
And1: 69,962
Joined: Aug 20, 2014
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#30 » by clyde21 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:55 am

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
clyde21 wrote:it's actually mind bending there is still Jimmy G simping on this board.



It’s mind boggling Clyde. I get why women don’t want us to move on from Jimmy. I’ve heard them say things like “he’s incredibly handsome. He has a Hollywood model type look / attractiveness”. Nothing to do with his level of playing, but rather his defined jawline—at least I get it why they want him to stay.

But when you see straight men continuously defend his play, it just makes me wonder about their level of understanding of the game of football. I honestly think if we had Jameis Winston, Derek Carr, or any other above average QB that has the guts to throw bombs, this team would have won the SB.


too much simpin out here these days my guy
جُنْد فِلَسْطِيْن
User avatar
Bald Bull
Veteran
Posts: 2,550
And1: 157
Joined: Aug 19, 2014
 

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#31 » by Bald Bull » Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:59 am

there was a point in the 3rd quarter where Jimmy had a QB rating of 126 with 2 TDs. At the time the Running game was dead, and i thought to myself "they said jimmy couldn't put the game on his back, but he's doing it" and right on que, it fell apart. Up until then the passing games was the only thing moving the ball.

This loss is partially my fault, i accept all criticism.

but where the hell did the running game and play action go? They where over comitting to stop the run all game, but play action would have killed em. and forced them to ease up.
LightTheBeam
RealGM
Posts: 18,661
And1: 11,826
Joined: Sep 17, 2010
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#32 » by LightTheBeam » Mon Jan 31, 2022 8:19 am

I've been begging for lance since week 8. That said, thank you Jimmy. You helped bring hope back to this franchise after a rough stretch. He helped us get to a super bowl. While ultimately he isn't talented enough to get the job done, he's a class act and good guy. I'll always root for him. Just glad it won't be in a 49ers uni.

Welcome to the Trey era!

Sent from my SM-G988U1 using RealGM mobile app
Jikkle
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,965
And1: 418
Joined: Aug 24, 2014
         

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#33 » by Jikkle » Mon Jan 31, 2022 10:44 am

thesack12 wrote:
Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
clyde21 wrote:it's actually mind bending there is still Jimmy G simping on this board.



It’s mind boggling Clyde. I get why women don’t want us to move on from Jimmy. I’ve heard them say things like “he’s incredibly handsome. He has a Hollywood model type look / attractiveness”. Nothing to do with his level of playing, but rather his defined jawline—at least I get it why they want him to stay.

But when you see straight men continuously defend his play, it just makes me wonder about their level of understanding of the game of football. I honestly think if we had Jameis Winston, Derek Carr, or any other above average QB that has the guts to throw bombs, this team would have won the SB.


This post is quite offensive...

But looking past the personal insults, Maybe some of us think that Garoppolo isn't terrible because of:

Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


Read on Twitter


I swear, the Garoppolo haters are the only segment of NFL fans where winning doesn't matter.

And yeah, Jameis "lead the league in Interceptions (with THIRTY of them)" Winston would certainly have been a better option than Garoppolo


PFF ranked him 34th in big time throw percentage which you could interpret it as him getting a bunch of easy throws to make so you could argue that it's a testament to Kyle's ability to consistently scheme guys open moreso than what Jimmy himself is doing.

And while I've been hard on Jimmy I do think he's an above average maybe knocked down to average with his mistakes QB overall. He's had some big throws, some game winning or at least put us in position to win a game drives, and when things are clicking for him he's capable of playing some high level football.

In some ways he's a great fit for the offense because he's able to get the ball out quickly and hit guys so they have a chance at YAC but in other ways he's a terrible fit because his limited range doesn't punish defenses enough when they sellout to stop the run.

I think he's better off in an offense that's not so run focused and wants a lot of quick hitting passes and not our run heavy offense that sets up the rest of the offense.
Bingo_AlphaMan
General Manager
Posts: 9,832
And1: 229
Joined: Aug 24, 2014
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#34 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:00 pm

Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=TDYhlBsgHq3sByfeVsaMVQ
Bingo_AlphaMan
General Manager
Posts: 9,832
And1: 229
Joined: Aug 24, 2014
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#35 » by Bingo_AlphaMan » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:08 pm

Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=TDYhlBsgHq3sByfeVsaMVQ
Dodub
General Manager
Posts: 9,812
And1: 618
Joined: Aug 19, 2014
 

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#36 » by Dodub » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:24 pm

David Lombardi is the biggest Jimmy G Stan out there, just watch his videos on YouTube, the guy gets so butthurt whenever Jimmy is criticized. He cherry picks stats and ignores all context.
thesack12
RealGM
Posts: 20,302
And1: 2,624
Joined: Jun 06, 2008
Location: N DA NAP
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#37 » by thesack12 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:26 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=TDYhlBsgHq3sByfeVsaMVQ


Yep, no one is trying to argue Jimmy played well yesterday.

By the way, CPOE does not account for the QB getting pressured. It only factors in if they get hit or not.

Go back and watch those last couple plays and tell me how the O-line protected the QB on those plays.
thesack12
RealGM
Posts: 20,302
And1: 2,624
Joined: Jun 06, 2008
Location: N DA NAP
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#38 » by thesack12 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:28 pm

Bingo_AlphaMan wrote:
Read on Twitter
?s=20&t=TDYhlBsgHq3sByfeVsaMVQ


Yet Jimmy outplayed Aaron Rodgers in crunch time last week

Read on Twitter


But its refreshing to have a healthy, debate using actual facts and functional info as opposed to personal insults and emotionally driven opinions to push a narrative.
thesack12
RealGM
Posts: 20,302
And1: 2,624
Joined: Jun 06, 2008
Location: N DA NAP
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#39 » by thesack12 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 3:52 pm

Jikkle wrote:
PFF ranked him 34th in big time throw percentage which you could interpret it as him getting a bunch of easy throws to make so you could argue that it's a testament to Kyle's ability to consistently scheme guys open moreso than what Jimmy himself is doing.

And while I've been hard on Jimmy I do think he's an above average maybe knocked down to average with his mistakes QB overall. He's had some big throws, some game winning or at least put us in position to win a game drives, and when things are clicking for him he's capable of playing some high level football.

In some ways he's a great fit for the offense because he's able to get the ball out quickly and hit guys so they have a chance at YAC but in other ways he's a terrible fit because his limited range doesn't punish defenses enough when they sellout to stop the run.

I think he's better off in an offense that's not so run focused and wants a lot of quick hitting passes and not our run heavy offense that sets up the rest of the offense.


First off, thank you for having a thoughtful response that is based on valid counter points. These kind of debates are productive...

I don't have access to PFF, so I'm not sure how that 34th ranking is constructed. There are obviously only 32 teams, so I don't know how they are compiling that ranking. Are there qualifiers for the rankings based on attempted passes, snap counts, etc? Is it based on percentages, shear numbers of throws, is it a conglomerate of a couple seasons totals? I don't know, I'm genuinely asking. Either way it certainly doesn't shine a bright light on Jimmy.

To counter that point, I will say that the 49ers were 5th in the NFL in explosive play%. Of those plays, Frisco was actually #1 in explosive pass play % with 11% and were 16th in explosive run play % with 11% again.

The 49ers also gained 6.1 yards per play which led the NFL this season.

While a QB's ability to stretch the field is absolutely a big factor in defensive game planning/in game strategy, and probably Garoppolo's biggest weakness, the 49ers' offense do not have trouble consistently moving the ball.

IMO Air yards is probably biggest over-rated stat in football. While yes its exciting to see the deep bombs, its not necessarily an indicator of how effective a QB/offense actually is. Garoppolo was 2nd in the NFL this season in yards per attempt. While of course he benefitted greatly from YAC, but in the end isn't the main thing that really matters is that the offense is gaining those yards?

Basically, I agree with your overall sentiments that Garoppolo most definitely has limitations and those limitations certainly have had an effect on this team. But for all these people (not you) to say the team is winning/performing in spite of Jimmy is frankly ridiculous.

You don't win that many games, and have your offense consistently perform that well with supposedly terrible QB play. A team that has terrible QB play, is simply a terrible team. That's just how it works, QB is FAR AND AWAY the most impactful/important position in sports.
Pattersonca65
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,186
And1: 286
Joined: Aug 29, 2014
     

Re: The GTFO Jimmy Thread 

Post#40 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 6:23 pm

thesack12 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
thesack12 wrote:

And you are going to hold Trey Lance to these ridiculously lofty standards as well, right?


asking your starting QB to get a first down is 'lofty standards'? lol

this is a weird hill you're choosing to die on tbh.


Mahomes and Allen were mentioned in regards to comparing Jimmy.

You know probably the best 2 QB's in the game right now, and certainly the 2 most dynamic QB talents.

I'll listen to criticism, but comparing Garoppolo to guys like that, is the very reason why Jimmy is hated so much. Its impossible standards.


It is quite ridiculous. We've known what Jimmy is and what he isn't. Last night came down to a couple of plays which were turning points in the game. All this Jimmy bashing over last night's game is kinda ridiculous

Return to San Francisco 49ers