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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#221 » by Samurai » Fri Mar 19, 2021 5:16 am

RipPizzaGuy wrote:Whats left?

Seems like

Backup QB
3rd Rb?
WR3
O-Line Depth
D-Line Depth
Safety

Most of this is probably addressed in the draft. I really wanted Trubisky, upset he went to the Bills. Id like to bring in Antonio Brown if there's any chance to steal him from Brady. Guy can still play and would be a solid WR3 who could step up if Deebo/Aiyuk miss games.

Looks like we are signing wide receiver Trent Sherfield, who provides added versatility as a special teams ace. With Mark Nzeocha gone, a ST specialist was also one of our needs and Sherfield played 504 ST snaps over the last 3 seasons with the Cardinals. While he is best known for his ST work, the Niners reportedly liked his potential as a WR; he is 6-1, 219 pounds which gives him similar size to Deebo and Aiyuk.
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Post#222 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:01 pm

Sherfield and Nzeocha wouldn't fill the same role on STs, even though Sherfield is a bigger receiver. But Ebukam was a STs ace early in his career, and will probably be called on to fill some of that Nzeocha role. Sherfield will be more of a gunner type, I'd imagine.

Not holding out any hope for his ability as a receiver, but we'll see.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#223 » by thesack12 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:48 pm

Yeah, special teams staple is quite likely Sherfield's ceiling for this team.... I'm still hoping for an upgrade at returner. James is just so incredibly underwhelming and downright frustrating at times. That dude leaves a lot of yardage on the field pretty much every game. Hopefully 9ers will address that at some point in the back half of the draft with someone that offers positional upside as well.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#224 » by thesack12 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:49 pm

And yeah, count me in the not interested in Flacco camp. Haven't really liked the guy since he carved up the 9ers in the 2013 Super Bowl, and he's simply just a bad player at this point.

If this is the caliber of guy we're talking about, as gross as it sounds I'd probably rather have Bortles over Flacco.
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Post#225 » by thesack12 » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:53 pm

Geno Atkins just got released. Would love to bring him in on the cheap. Don't know how interested he would be in that financially wise, but I would think he would be open to the overall situation. He would be on a contender for the 1st time in his career, and have a good amount of talent around him to take some attention off of him. He could be used as a rotational guy thus keeping him fresher and possibly extending his career.
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Post#226 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:54 pm

Sherfield and Nzeocha wouldn't fill the same role on STs, even though Sherfield is a bigger receiver. But Ebukam was a STs ace early in his career, and will probably be called on to fill some of that Nzeocha role. Sherfield will be more of a gunner type, I'd imagine.

Not holding out any hope for his ability as a receiver, but we'll see.
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Post#227 » by Samurai » Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:31 pm

Dontae Johnson gives us a bit of breathing room in terms of CB depth. I expect we will still draft a corner or two, but having DJ back at least provides a small cushion.
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Post#228 » by CrimsonCrew » Sat Mar 20, 2021 8:45 pm

That was a weird double post by me, apparently.
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Post#229 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Mar 22, 2021 2:28 pm

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Post#230 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:52 pm

They signed him. Depth piece, presumably got something near the vet minimum. Doesn't really move the needle, except to bolster a unit that is pretty darn thin.
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Post#231 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:27 pm

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Post#232 » by arich35 » Mon Mar 22, 2021 8:44 pm

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Post#233 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Mar 22, 2021 9:10 pm

The Tartt news is very surprising in light of the Wilson news. I figured that was the end of Tartt. Prior to that, I figured there was a pretty good chance Tartt would re-sign. He's had major injury issues and it's a super depressed market for guys in his range this year. Made sense for him to come back for a year and try to test the market next year. I just hope they didn't pay him much more than the minimum.

I'm kind of hoping the same logic applies to Kerry Hyder. I don't really have any longterm interest in Hyder, and in any other year, there's a fair chance some team would overpay to get him. But teams don't have the money this year, and he'd be a solid addition - probably better than much else out there at this point - to bring back to shore up of our DL depth. Especially if Bosa is on a snap count to start the year.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#234 » by RIPskaterdude » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:12 am

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Post#235 » by thesack12 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:52 pm

I'm also pretty surprised with the Tartt signing. I really didn't even have him on my radar, as I just assumed he was good as gone because he is rarely healthy, is one of the leftovers from the Baalke era, and I figured he would want too much money to come back. All that said, if his contract is close to the league minimum its definitely not a bad signing. If he can ever manage to stay somewhat healthy, it could actually be a really good signing.

The secondary is looking a lot better than it was like a week ago. It still needs some work, namely a promising developmental prospect at CB and at least 1 better depth piece than Johnson. Ideally, they take a guy in the draft that can be both those things from jump.
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Post#236 » by thesack12 » Tue Mar 23, 2021 12:57 pm

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I mean at this point, I fully expect to get nothing out of Ford on the field. However considering what his contract looked like before this, (If I recall correctly he was carrying $20 mil cap hits for the next couple seasons with a sizable portion of it being guaranteed $), this has got to be a win.

Its also provides the chance, which is a borderline complete fantasy, that he can actually get on the field at some point. Even if its strictly a 3rd and long only type role.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#237 » by Samurai » Tue Mar 23, 2021 6:15 pm

I realize it isn't a true either/or situation, but given how tight the cap dollars are, I would have preferred to see K'Waun williams re-signed instead of Tartt. Nothing against Tartt personally, I just see the drop-off between Tartt and Moore is smaller than the drop-off between Williams and Johnson/whoever else we have to fill that spot.
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Post#238 » by Ray_Dogg » Tue Mar 23, 2021 7:16 pm

Samurai wrote:I realize it isn't a true either/or situation, but given how tight the cap dollars are, I would have preferred to see K'Waun williams re-signed instead of Tartt. Nothing against Tartt personally, I just see the drop-off between Tartt and Moore is smaller than the drop-off between Williams and Johnson/whoever else we have to fill that spot.


Cap dollars aren’t that tight anymore with the Ford restructure being much higher than speculated. We have about $20M in cap space. They can easily re-sign Williams and Hyder. I will actually be upset if we don’t get aggressive with more of our cap space this year. It should be an obvious go for it year. They can still open more money with a Tomlinson extension and another $1M and change gets freed up when Richburg retires after June 1st.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#239 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:00 pm

Samurai wrote:I realize it isn't a true either/or situation, but given how tight the cap dollars are, I would have preferred to see K'Waun williams re-signed instead of Tartt. Nothing against Tartt personally, I just see the drop-off between Tartt and Moore is smaller than the drop-off between Williams and Johnson/whoever else we have to fill that spot.


If you're signing them for the same amount or duration, yes, I think most would rather have Williams than Tartt. But there is a market for Williams. He's probably going to get a 2-3 year deal. Tartt came back on what I'm assuming is a cheap, prove-it deal. Given that, th move makes sense.

One thing I didn't initially think of with the Tartt signing is that we could - in a pinch, anyway - move Ward back to slot corner, or even try Moore at outside corner again. Not ideal, but it does give us a bit more flexibility.
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Re: 2021 49ers offseason 

Post#240 » by RIPskaterdude » Tue Mar 23, 2021 10:52 pm

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