2022 Offseason thread

Samurai · Post #221 » by **Samurai** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:00 am

DaVante Adams traded to the Raiders. Can't imagine that would make Aaron Rodgers real happy.

CrimsonCrew · Post #222 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:01 am

Davante Adams to the Raiders for #22 and I've got to assume a second. Whoa. Wonder how Rodgers feels about that?

GS Warriors 1 · Post #223 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:11 am

Reports surfacing that Rodgers knew that the negotiations were falling apart. Wow...

Carr and Adams are very close friends from their Fresno days and Adams has made it known if it wasn't GB, he'd want to play with Carr. Well, we are seeing it come true. Have to think Carr is getting extended, too, since he's in the final year of his deal.

GS Warriors 1 · Post #224 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 12:17 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Davante Adams to the Raiders for #22 and I've got to assume a second. Whoa. Wonder how Rodgers feels about that?

Yup, trade terms just became official. 22 and 53 for Davante Adams.

wco81 · Post #225 » by **wco81** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 2:20 am

$28-29 million a year for a WR.

He won't collect money for all 4 years.

But how close do the Raiders think they are?

That division is stacked, they're going to beat each other up and likely 2 of those teams make the playoffs while the others are SOL.

I guess Chargers have to make hay while Herbert is still on his rookie deal.

Samurai · Post #226 » by **Samurai** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:36 am

At least we got our return man. Ray-Ray McCloud signed a 2-year deal for up to $10.4M. Led the league in punt return yardage a season ago and can also return kickoffs (35 returns for a 22.2 average last season). Also caught 39 passes last season as a WR. Also a threat as a runner on jet sweeps. Seems kinda more of a gadget guy than someone you can count on as a WR1 or WR2 but he should be a weapon for us behind Deebo, Aiyuk and Jennings. Could also be a weapon giving a blow for Deebo who will need to take plays off throughout the game because of how much he is used as a RB.

CrimsonCrew · Post #227 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 4:08 am

Pretty steep for a return man, though I guess we've got to wait to see the contract. Granted he's one of the best in the league.

Samurai · Post #228 » by **Samurai** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 4:45 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Pretty steep for a return man, though I guess we've got to wait to see the contract. Granted he's one of the best in the league.

It does seem pretty pricey for a return man, but he did catch 39 passes last season for the Steelers so he should be able to also contribute on offense as well as special teams (unlike a Dante Pettis). Despite a poor 40 time (4.53) at the Combine, he has the reputation of a speed guy who has shown legit speed as a returner so if he can be someone who can stretch the field then maybe he will be worth it.

Jikkle · Post #229 » by **Jikkle** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:38 am

With as shaky as the special teams have been I don't mind paying a bit of a premium for a returner and I'm glad to see some investment by the team into fixing the unit up a bit.

The great thing with Ray Ray at least is he excels at both kick and punt returns and not just one. You really don't see a lot of guys excel at both and his addition solves both positions.

CrimsonCrew · Post #230 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 3:39 pm

I don't know the numbers, but I can't think that a return man moves the needle much in today's NFL, so long as you don't have a guy who is turning the ball over. My sense is that yards are so easy to come by in the game today that field position really isn't very significant. I would have rather spent that money to sign JC Jackson instead of Ward, for instance.

But we'll see what happens. Hopefully he can contribute in the passing game as well, but based on stats and measurables, he doesn't seem like anything particularly special in that area.

Samurai · Post #231 » by **Samurai** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:04 pm

Niners signed safety George Odom - 3 years up to $10.95M. Pretty much closes the door on a Jaquiski Tartt return. For what it's worth, the overall PFF grades for last season: Odom - 62.9, Tartt - 61.8, Hufanga - 62.5. I'm assuming it will be a battle between Odom and Hufanga for the starting spot, or perhaps they will alternate depending on the situation. Odom would seem to have greater athleticism, posting a 4.45 40 time and 22 bench reps (compared to Hufanga's 4.64 speed and only 12 bench reps). Even if Odom is tapped as the starter, Hufanga will be able to really focus on special teams and still get some reps in short yardage situations.

CrimsonCrew · Post #232 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:40 pm

Watson going to Cleveland after all, looks like. If it holds up, that's great news for us. We don't have to worry about him in the playoffs, it doesn't address one of the glaring QB holes that still remain around the league, and Baker probably would be viewed as a downgrade from Garoppolo.

I was kind of hoping that this was the last chip that needed to fall before we could move Garoppolo, but it's possible the injury is more of an issue as the Colts, for instance, weren't really in on the Watson sweepstakes anyway. We shall see.

Samurai · Post #233 » by **Samurai** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:01 pm

Since Seattle has also indicated interest in an 'adult' (experienced) QB, I wonder if there might be a trade down the road for them to get Matt Ryan. Looks like Seattle intends to draft a QB so it would make sense to have a grown-up to mentor a rookie. Could that make Atlanta interested in Jimmy G?

CrimsonCrew · Post #234 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:03 pm

Kind of relieved the Chiefs signed JuJu Smith-Schuster. I was worried we'd overpay to get him.

LightTheBeam · Post #235 » by **LightTheBeam** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:15 pm

I must be less optimistic than the rest of you.

I imagine the Colts are going to prefer Ryan.

Falcons probably won't go for Jimmy.

At this point I'm praying Carolina comes through and takes Jimmy.

Dodub · Post #236 » by **Dodub** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:16 pm

If Baker goes to Indy that pretty much kills Jimmy G’s trade market. I’m hoping that they wait until every QB needy team has their guy and then release Jimmy for trying to tank his value. He can resume his life as a back up.

CrimsonCrew · Post #237 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:33 pm

RipPizzaGuy wrote:I must be less optimistic than the rest of you.

I imagine the Colts are going to prefer Ryan.

Falcons probably won't go for Jimmy.

At this point I'm praying Carolina comes through and takes Jimmy.

Is Ryan going anywhere now that Atlanta missed out on Watson? The Colts remain the most logical landing spot, as they're actually a playoff contender with even passable QB play. But they may be content to wait on a Mariota or Fitzpatrick instead of coughing up picks for Jimmy.

CrimsonCrew · Post #238 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:33 pm

Dodub wrote:If Baker goes to Indy that pretty much kills Jimmy G’s trade market. I’m hoping that they wait until every QB needy team has their guy and then release Jimmy for trying to tank his value. He can resume his life as a back up.

It's kind of shaping up that way. Teams aren't going to have much cap left to sign him if we hold him much longer. Of course, that's also part of what could make a trade difficult.

wco81 · Post #239 » by **wco81** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:02 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:I must be less optimistic than the rest of you.

I imagine the Colts are going to prefer Ryan.

Falcons probably won't go for Jimmy.

At this point I'm praying Carolina comes through and takes Jimmy.

Is Ryan going anywhere now that Atlanta missed out on Watson? The Colts remain the most logical landing spot, as they're actually a playoff contender with even passable QB play. But they may be content to wait on a Mariota or Fitzpatrick instead of coughing up picks for Jimmy.

Wonder if Ryan could have the same kind of impact as Stafford did on the Rams last year.

Problem is the 49ers don't have the kind of weapons as the Rams for downfield threats, though maybe they would have made better use of Kittle.

Like I said a couple of years ago, Mike Lombardi said the 49ers should trade for Stafford.

Probably would have cost a lot less than what they traded away for Lance.

LightTheBeam · Post #240 » by **LightTheBeam** » Fri Mar 18, 2022 10:02 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
RipPizzaGuy wrote:I must be less optimistic than the rest of you.

I imagine the Colts are going to prefer Ryan.

Falcons probably won't go for Jimmy.

At this point I'm praying Carolina comes through and takes Jimmy.

Is Ryan going anywhere now that Atlanta missed out on Watson? The Colts remain the most logical landing spot, as they're actually a playoff contender with even passable QB play. But they may be content to wait on a Mariota or Fitzpatrick instead of coughing up picks for Jimmy.

Some speculation they could still trade him.

Either way. Baker is an option for the Colts. So it Mariota for free.

I wonder if we could have taken the Wentz deal but held on for more. Feels bad