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Post#221 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:59 pm

One thing to note about the missed deep balls. A couple of them were excellent reads that did not appear to be the primary or even secondary read. Now, he missed the throw, and he absolutely needs to clean that up, but the reality is that a lot of NFL QBs may not even attempt the throw in those situations as they don't make the read. Let's hope he can clean this stuff up. If he can start hitting the deep balls, this offense could be incredible.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#222 » by Big J » Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:51 pm

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And that Tom Brady was worth taking 199th. And that Kurt Warner wasn't worth drafting at all. And that countless busts were worth taking in the first ten picks.


Sooo, then maybe the NFL is also wrong about Lances trade value.


The NFL has watched Lance play at the NFL level


The NFL also watched Randy Moss play and valued him at a 4th round pick.
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Post#223 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:08 pm

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Sooo, then maybe the NFL is also wrong about Lances trade value.


The NFL has watched Lance play at the NFL level


The NFL also watched Randy Moss play and valued him at a 4th round pick.


That had nothing to do with his ability to perform in the league. But you're right. The league could be wrong short Lance. Same with Purdy. We shall see what bears out. Overall, I'm pretty pleased with what Purdy has shown to date.
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Post#224 » by Pattersonca65 » Thu Sep 21, 2023 10:36 pm

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Sooo, then maybe the NFL is also wrong about Lances trade value.


The NFL has watched Lance play at the NFL level


The NFL also watched Randy Moss play and valued him at a 4th round pick.


Comparing a WR to QBs us apples to oranges. Especially an aging diva
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Post#225 » by Bald Bull » Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:31 pm

I'm starting to think Brock might have the best anticipation of any Niner QB since Young. I've been noticing how often he's releasing the ball before the WR ends his route, I can't say that's something that ever popped out to me any other QB since Young. He trusts that his target will be where it's supposed to be. That also requires reading the defenders body position and knowing they won't be able to make the play. This is not game manager level skill.

The TD pass to Aiyuk over patrick peterson, the TD to Deebo last night, even the dropped TD to McCaffery are passes previous QBs weren't throwing with that level of trust for where the wr will be.
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Post#226 » by Big J » Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:56 pm

Bald Bull wrote:I'm starting to think Brock might have the best anticipation of any Niner QB since Young. I've been noticing how often he's releasing the ball before the WR ends his route, I can't say that's something that ever popped out to me any other QB since Young. He trusts that his target will be where it's supposed to be. That also requires reading the defenders body position and knowing they won't be able to make the play. This is not game manager level skill.

The TD pass to Aiyuk over patrick peterson, the TD to Deebo last night, even the dropped TD to McCaffery are passes previous QBs weren't throwing with that level of trust for where the wr will be.


He also could have easily had 4 interceptions last game. 3 on the first drive, and the one that bounced off his receivers hands.
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Post#227 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:12 pm

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Bald Bull wrote:I'm starting to think Brock might have the best anticipation of any Niner QB since Young. I've been noticing how often he's releasing the ball before the WR ends his route, I can't say that's something that ever popped out to me any other QB since Young. He trusts that his target will be where it's supposed to be. That also requires reading the defenders body position and knowing they won't be able to make the play. This is not game manager level skill.

The TD pass to Aiyuk over patrick peterson, the TD to Deebo last night, even the dropped TD to McCaffery are passes previous QBs weren't throwing with that level of trust for where the wr will be.


He also could have easily had 4 interceptions last game. 3 on the first drive, and the one that bounced off his receivers hands.


He could have, but he didn't. And he bounced back from a shaky start to have a very effective game despite absurd pressure rates.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#228 » by Harry Palmer » Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:25 pm

Bald Bull wrote:I'm starting to think Brock might have the best anticipation of any Niner QB since Young. I've been noticing how often he's releasing the ball before the WR ends his route, I can't say that's something that ever popped out to me any other QB since Young. He trusts that his target will be where it's supposed to be. That also requires reading the defenders body position and knowing they won't be able to make the play. This is not game manager level skill.

The TD pass to Aiyuk over patrick peterson, the TD to Deebo last night, even the dropped TD to McCaffery are passes previous QBs weren't throwing with that level of trust for where the wr will be.


Agree with this. It’s going to cost us sometimes, just hope he keeps ripping it when it does.
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Post#229 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:52 pm

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Bald Bull wrote:I'm starting to think Brock might have the best anticipation of any Niner QB since Young. I've been noticing how often he's releasing the ball before the WR ends his route, I can't say that's something that ever popped out to me any other QB since Young. He trusts that his target will be where it's supposed to be. That also requires reading the defenders body position and knowing they won't be able to make the play. This is not game manager level skill.

The TD pass to Aiyuk over patrick peterson, the TD to Deebo last night, even the dropped TD to McCaffery are passes previous QBs weren't throwing with that level of trust for where the wr will be.


Agree with this. It’s going to cost us sometimes, just hope he keeps ripping it when it does.


Ironically, his understanding of the scheme and defenses almost caused one of those INTs last night when a DB (can't recall who) had basically blown his coverage, but as a result was in a spot where he shouldn't have been and Brock threw it in his direction.
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Post#230 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Sep 22, 2023 4:05 pm

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Bald Bull wrote:I'm starting to think Brock might have the best anticipation of any Niner QB since Young. I've been noticing how often he's releasing the ball before the WR ends his route, I can't say that's something that ever popped out to me any other QB since Young. He trusts that his target will be where it's supposed to be. That also requires reading the defenders body position and knowing they won't be able to make the play. This is not game manager level skill.

The TD pass to Aiyuk over patrick peterson, the TD to Deebo last night, even the dropped TD to McCaffery are passes previous QBs weren't throwing with that level of trust for where the wr will be.


He also could have easily had 4 interceptions last game. 3 on the first drive, and the one that bounced off his receivers hands.


He could have, but he didn't. And he bounced back from a shaky start to have a very effective game despite absurd pressure rates.


The day after response is completely predictable. When the best one can come up with is this, you know the QB had a fairly decent game.
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Post#231 » by Bald Bull » Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:07 pm

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Bald Bull wrote:I'm starting to think Brock might have the best anticipation of any Niner QB since Young. I've been noticing how often he's releasing the ball before the WR ends his route, I can't say that's something that ever popped out to me any other QB since Young. He trusts that his target will be where it's supposed to be. That also requires reading the defenders body position and knowing they won't be able to make the play. This is not game manager level skill.

The TD pass to Aiyuk over patrick peterson, the TD to Deebo last night, even the dropped TD to McCaffery are passes previous QBs weren't throwing with that level of trust for where the wr will be.


He also could have easily had 4 interceptions last game. 3 on the first drive, and the one that bounced off his receivers hands.


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Post#232 » by CharityStripe34 » Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:11 pm

Somewhat shaky first half but was much better and found a nice rhythm in the second half. Overall, a very good game. Especially on third downs. And I also agree that many highlights show Purdy throwing anticipation throws to receivers just about to come out of their break. Quite impressive. Just hope the chemistry between he and the WRs/TEs continues to solidify and improve throughout the year.
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Post#233 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:17 pm

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Never say never, but it's hard for me to imagine Trey Lance ever making these plays based on what he has shown to date.
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Post#234 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:21 pm

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Never say never, but it's hard for me to imagine Trey Lance ever making these plays based on what he has shown to date.


With the pass rush from the blitzing last night it would not have been pretty
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Post#235 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Sep 22, 2023 7:41 pm

Yeah, what Purdy is showing in terms of anticipation and playing under pressure is pretty special for a player are this stage of a career. Hopefully it lasts and he builds on it.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#236 » by Big J » Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:21 pm

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He also could have easily had 4 interceptions last game. 3 on the first drive, and the one that bounced off his receivers hands.


He could have, but he didn't. And he bounced back from a shaky start to have a very effective game despite absurd pressure rates.


The day after response is completely predictable. When the best one can come up with is this, you know the QB had a fairly decent game.


Typical homer response to never critique the QB even when there is a lot to fix.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#237 » by Samurai » Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:24 pm

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He could have, but he didn't. And he bounced back from a shaky start to have a very effective game despite absurd pressure rates.


The day after response is completely predictable. When the best one can come up with is this, you know the QB had a fairly decent game.


Typical homer response to never critique the QB even when there is a lot to fix.

Typical hater response to always/relentlessly/annoyingly critique the QB even when he makes good decisions and good plays. It's fair to critique any player when they make a bad play. It is completely biased when you ignore/forget to acknowledge the times said player makes a good play.
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Post#238 » by CrimsonCrew » Sat Sep 23, 2023 12:16 am

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He could have, but he didn't. And he bounced back from a shaky start to have a very effective game despite absurd pressure rates.


The day after response is completely predictable. When the best one can come up with is this, you know the QB had a fairly decent game.


Typical homer response to never critique the QB even when there is a lot to fix.


It's pretty rich that Lance's biggest apologist his criticizing Purdy for a slow start. Lance is basically the poster boy for an awful first 20 minutes, possibly followed by a passable 40 minutes.

Yes, Purdy what really bad in that first quarter. And then he looked really good for most of the rest of the game. Are there still things to work on? Of course. He was making his 11th start on a short week against a team that blitzed constantly without very good protection or his best quick hit option in the passing game. Given those things, I would say the end result was quite impressive.

And as said above, Trey Lance is half a decade away, at a minimum, from making those kind of anticipation throws under pressure.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#239 » by Big J » Sat Sep 23, 2023 1:56 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Big J wrote:
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The day after response is completely predictable. When the best one can come up with is this, you know the QB had a fairly decent game.


Typical homer response to never critique the QB even when there is a lot to fix.


It's pretty rich that Lance's biggest apologist his criticizing Purdy for a slow start. Lance is basically the poster boy for an awful first 20 minutes, possibly followed by a passable 40 minutes.

Yes, Purdy what really bad in that first quarter. And then he looked really good for most of the rest of the game. Are there still things to work on? Of course. He was making his 11th start on a short week against a team that blitzed constantly without very good protection or his best quick hit option in the passing game. Given those things, I would say the end result was quite impressive.

And as said above, Trey Lance is half a decade away, at a minimum, from making those kind of anticipation throws under pressure.


He was really good because he kept throwing swing passes on 3rd & 15 that Deebo or CMAC would end up converting. I swear any QB could make those passes and would have killer stats doing that. I will give him props for the 4th quarter touchdown pass, but that happened after the game was already over anyway and there was absolutely zero pressure on him.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#240 » by Big J » Sat Sep 23, 2023 1:57 am

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The day after response is completely predictable. When the best one can come up with is this, you know the QB had a fairly decent game.


Typical homer response to never critique the QB even when there is a lot to fix.

Typical hater response to always/relentlessly/annoyingly critique the QB even when he makes good decisions and good plays. It's fair to critique any player when they make a bad play. It is completely biased when you ignore/forget to acknowledge the times said player makes a good play.


I'll give him props for the 4th quarter touchdown pass. That was good. The game had already been decided at that point though mostly due to Deebo & CMAC killing it on swing passes.

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