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2025 49ers Season

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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#221 » by thesack12 » Sat Oct 4, 2025 4:15 pm

zman1 wrote:Is Mac tradable? He is looking like a starter that some teams would find quite valuable. Trade him in a couple weeks for a really good d lineman.

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Mac is on a great run, but its been 3 games. The tape from his 3 years in New England and almost 1/2 season of starts in Jacksonville last season didn't get erased. There was a reason why Jacksonville traded only a 6th rounder for him, and SF was able to bring him in cheaply to be the unquestioned backup.

I don't see a team sending a high level pass rusher for Jones. Something like that is incredibly unlikely. For one, Jones just doesn't hold that kind of value. Secondly, if a team is making an in season trade for a QB that likely means that their guy went down to injury and they would be trying to salvage the season. If a team is trying to salvage a season, it wouldn't make much sense to weaken a key aspect of their team, like pass rushing.

Just in general, unless you are 100% convinced that guy is going to be your future, making an in season trade for a QB is incredibly tough. Obviously QB is the most difficult position in sports, and there is an incredible amount of factors that go into that. Potentially bringing in a guy midseason, sparks several core concerns, namely how long is going to take for him to get acclimated to the system, and build chemistry with his teammates. The Garoppolo to SF trade is the only mid season QB trade I can think of, that actually yielded notable success.

Right now Mac Jones is incredibly valuable to San Francisco. I doubt Lynch will be making calls, but he will probably listen to calls about a Jones trade. I'm thinking those calls would max out at like a 4th round pick or something. Keeping Jones is immensely more valuable than anything of that caliber of a return. Especially, since Jones is on a 2 year contract, so SF has (high level) QB2 locked in for next season as well.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#222 » by clyde21 » Sat Oct 4, 2025 6:41 pm

if we can get a 3rd or 4th for Mac do it I guess, if Kenny Pickett can get a 5th I think Mac can get at least a 4th after these few performances, for next season we have Kurtis Rourke waiting anyways as the backup
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#223 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Oct 6, 2025 12:24 am

Niners beat the Rams, all NFC West teams and the Eagles all lose. Great weekend! Though that Bucs offense looks pretty potent. Next week could be rough....
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#224 » by wco81 » Mon Oct 6, 2025 12:34 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Niners beat the Rams, all NFC West teams and the Eagles all lose. Great weekend! Though that Bucs offense looks pretty potent. Next week could be rough....


Plus as poorly as their defense has played, they're blitz happy, so whoever plays QB is going to see a lot of heat.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#225 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Oct 6, 2025 1:57 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Niners beat the Rams, all NFC West teams and the Eagles all lose. Great weekend! Though that Bucs offense looks pretty potent. Next week could be rough....

Good week to hopefully get mustapha back
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#226 » by Jikkle » Mon Oct 6, 2025 6:38 am

Been busy the last two weeks but finally able to get caught up on 9er related things and while I'm glad it's a 4-1 team it doesn't pass the smell test to me right now.

I can be somewhat positive about the team going forward as the offense is at least hanging in there despite the numerous injuries and getting Kittle, Pearsall, and Jennings on the field at the same time will help. Defensively, the growing pains are there but not as harsh as I expected and I still anticipate the defense getting better as the year goes on assuming injuries decimate it.

There are two fatal flaws I see with the team though. The offensive line is hot garbage and what's concerning is they are garbage in the run game which is usually the one area they were generally above average in aside from short yardage situations. The 2nd is without Bosa the pass rush has been basically dead and the current pass rush isn't winning us any championships.

Pass rush at least can be theoretically fixed via a big trade but the offensive line there is nothing you can do about except hope they play better and even playing better for them is still playing bad.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#227 » by RIPskaterdude » Tue Oct 7, 2025 1:02 am

Still have idea how this team lost to the Jags
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#228 » by arich35 » Tue Oct 7, 2025 3:33 am

Jags beat the Chiefs. Jags might just be pretty good, we played like **** against them multiple different ways. Rushed Purdy back and he was all over the place most of the game, dropped passes, fumbles. Defense let up some big plays but played well enough most of the game, and then the special teams TD we let up
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#229 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Oct 7, 2025 3:38 am

arich35 wrote:Jags beat the Chiefs. Jags might just be pretty good, we played like **** against them multiple different ways. Rushed Purdy back and he was all over the place most of the game, dropped passes, fumbles. Defense let up some big plays but played well enough most of the game, and then the special teams TD we let up

Purdy forcing balls downfield that game. He needs to go checkdowns sometimes. Also after listening to Steve Young his toe was not right and probably why he was sailing all those passes. Chiefs finally get called for holding. That one series their DB got away with blantant holding in the end zone. Compared to who their DBs were holding, makes the call against Sigle look absurd
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#230 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Oct 7, 2025 4:21 pm

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CrimsonCrew wrote:Niners beat the Rams, all NFC West teams and the Eagles all lose. Great weekend! Though that Bucs offense looks pretty potent. Next week could be rough....

Good week to hopefully get mustapha back


They just opened his practice window. I would not expect him back for another couple weeks.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#231 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Oct 7, 2025 4:28 pm

Jikkle wrote:Been busy the last two weeks but finally able to get caught up on 9er related things and while I'm glad it's a 4-1 team it doesn't pass the smell test to me right now.

I can be somewhat positive about the team going forward as the offense is at least hanging in there despite the numerous injuries and getting Kittle, Pearsall, and Jennings on the field at the same time will help. Defensively, the growing pains are there but not as harsh as I expected and I still anticipate the defense getting better as the year goes on assuming injuries decimate it.

There are two fatal flaws I see with the team though. The offensive line is hot garbage and what's concerning is they are garbage in the run game which is usually the one area they were generally above average in aside from short yardage situations. The 2nd is without Bosa the pass rush has been basically dead and the current pass rush isn't winning us any championships.

Pass rush at least can be theoretically fixed via a big trade but the offensive line there is nothing you can do about except hope they play better and even playing better for them is still playing bad.


The Rams win made me mourn the loss of Bosa all the more. If there was the prospect of Bosa returning at some point, I would feel downright positive about this team's chances in the playoffs. But as you say, the pass rush is not good, and it's hard to see the team stringing together playoff wins without that.

The good news is that the team has been tough and made things happen in crunch time. The offense should get some impact players back, and the young players on defense should continue to develop and improve - unless they hit a rookie wall. The bad news is that we can't run the ball at all on offense and the D capitalized on some very unlikely to repeat plays to snatch a win from a team that moved the ball fairly effortlessly after the first two drives. It doesn't feel sustainable long-term. But it's a long season, and almost anything can happen in the playoffs, so we'll see.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#232 » by arich35 » Wed Oct 8, 2025 3:55 am

This team is still beat to ****. I have no clue who is going to play this weekend
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#233 » by arich35 » Wed Oct 8, 2025 8:09 pm

Sounds like Pearsall will be out again this week. Jennings is not practicing today so he will be in doubt as well
Gross-Matos and Collins not practicing
Purdy not practicing, Jones limited

Kevin Givens practice window was opened though so maybe could have him in a limited capacity for Sunday
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#234 » by CrimsonCrew » Wed Oct 8, 2025 8:34 pm

Collins was in on the last play of the game. Odd that he's hurt, though apparently he was playing through it.

The only silver lining is that I am now starting Bourne in both my fantasy teams. After going with Robinson over him this past week. Ha!
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#235 » by Pattersonca65 » Thu Oct 9, 2025 3:34 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
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CrimsonCrew wrote:Niners beat the Rams, all NFC West teams and the Eagles all lose. Great weekend! Though that Bucs offense looks pretty potent. Next week could be rough....

Good week to hopefully get mustapha back


They just opened his practice window. I would not expect him back for another couple weeks.


Mustapha was a full participant yesterday and he said he is going to play this weekend.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#236 » by CrimsonCrew » Thu Oct 9, 2025 6:55 pm

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CrimsonCrew wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:Good week to hopefully get mustapha back


They just opened his practice window. I would not expect him back for another couple weeks.


Mustapha was a full participant yesterday and he said he is going to play this weekend.


Great if so. Last thing I want at this point is for them to rush him back and see him aggravate it. Seems like that happens with a lot of our players.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#237 » by wco81 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 5:28 am

49ers are supposedly trying to trade for Hendrickson.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#238 » by CrimsonCrew » Sun Oct 12, 2025 1:20 pm

wco81 wrote:49ers are supposedly trying to trade for Hendrickson.


Saw that. If they can get him for a third, great. He should get that in a comp pick. A second seems too high for a rental. Though I'd have to imagine there are plenty of interested teams.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#239 » by thesack12 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 1:48 pm

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wco81 wrote:49ers are supposedly trying to trade for Hendrickson.


Saw that. If they can get him for a third, great. He should get that in a comp pick. A second seems too high for a rental. Though I'd have to imagine there are plenty of interested teams.


Yeah, I expect that Lynch is trying to trade for a lot of dudes. Hendrickson, Crosby, Chubb, Phillips, Thibodeaux, Jordan, Simmons, and a lot of others that might help the currently non-existent pass rush.

The thing is, the other team has to be willing to make the move. Then the problem compounds because pass rushers are a premium position that all teams are constantly trying to get better at. So the competition on the trade market is probably going to be stiff.

Regarding Hendrickson specifically, the trade prospects for him have currently taken a bit of a hit since Cincinatti stupefyingly thinks that Joe Flacco is going to help them salvage their season. So they are probably going to have to lose a few more games until they waive the white flag, and consider moving Hendrickson.

If the best offers Cincy gets is a 3rd round pick, that isn't a ton of incentive to move him. As Crims mentioned, he will likely net at least a 3rd as a compensatory. It is worth noting that compensatory pick would be in 2027, so trading him to get a 2026 pick does have some benefit. Also Cincy might want to do Trey a solid and send him to a contender for the rest of the season. However, if all the rental cost would be for top shelf pass rusher is basically swapping a 2026 3rd for a 2027 3rd, there will probably be quite a few teams in on that.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#240 » by wco81 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 6:21 pm

It would have to be a rental because some of these edge rushers would want over $30 million a year.

Hendrickson is over 30 too so nobody is going to give him more than a couple of years after this season. That might be why Cincy moves him, because they may not want to pay him even another season at $30 million or more.

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