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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2261 » by clyde21 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:58 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Would McCarthy be the sure-fire #1 pick this year?


i think so
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2262 » by clyde21 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 5:59 am

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clyde21 wrote:I'd offer our 11th, nothing more


No way. Thought he was overrated last year coming out, and now after an injury think it would be even worse to do.


i liked McCarthy coming out, so maybe that's the difference here. the injury does make things more complicated but I'm willing to make that bet at 11. might be our only chance to get a real QB prospect if things don't work out w/ Brock.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2263 » by Pattersonca65 » Fri Jan 24, 2025 6:57 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Would McCarthy be the sure-fire #1 pick this year?

No, not surefire but possible
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2264 » by CrimsonCrew » Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:42 pm

Coming off an injury, only two cheap years left if he plays well. If we can't get Brock extended before the draft, I would consider it, but not willing to give up a king's ransom. And I haven't studied him at all, other than casually watching the championship game last year.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2265 » by clyde21 » Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:40 am

yea, I would do the 11th, nothing more. he was drafted 11th and he's one year into his rook deal without any burn and an injury on top of it, not sure what the Vikings would be expecting other than that.

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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2266 » by arich35 » Sat Jan 25, 2025 4:56 am

Insane people want to trade our 1st round pick for an unknown QB coming off an injury. Our roster is getting older, we need as much young talent as possible and not at the QB position at this point.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2267 » by Pattersonca65 » Sat Jan 25, 2025 7:23 am

arich35 wrote:Insane people want to trade our 1st round pick for an unknown QB coming off an injury. Our roster is getting older, we need as much young talent as possible and not at the QB position at this point.

Not going to happen
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2268 » by Big J » Mon Jan 27, 2025 1:14 am

arich35 wrote:Insane people want to trade our 1st round pick for an unknown QB coming off an injury. Our roster is getting older, we need as much young talent as possible and not at the QB position at this point.


Look at what Daniels did this year & Purdy last year. QB on a rookie contract is insanely valuable.
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Post#2269 » by arich35 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:53 am

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arich35 wrote:Insane people want to trade our 1st round pick for an unknown QB coming off an injury. Our roster is getting older, we need as much young talent as possible and not at the QB position at this point.


Look at what Daniels did this year & Purdy last year. QB on a rookie contract is insanely valuable.


Cool but McCarthy is such a big gamble. I didn't like him coming out of college at all and see no reason to gamble maybe the last good year we could have with this core on a rookie coming off a pretty major knee injury. Use the 1st round pick on an OL and make a free agent signing on the OL
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2270 » by Harry Palmer » Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:02 am

McCarthy is sort of a Shannahan type qb except that he’s got a really slow and kind of clunky release and his accuracy is meh.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2271 » by Big J » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:49 am

arich35 wrote:
Big J wrote:
arich35 wrote:Insane people want to trade our 1st round pick for an unknown QB coming off an injury. Our roster is getting older, we need as much young talent as possible and not at the QB position at this point.


Look at what Daniels did this year & Purdy last year. QB on a rookie contract is insanely valuable.


Cool but McCarthy is such a big gamble. I didn't like him coming out of college at all and see no reason to gamble maybe the last good year we could have with this core on a rookie coming off a pretty major knee injury. Use the 1st round pick on an OL and make a free agent signing on the OL


We need to make a gamble at this point. Unless we’re just going to let Purdy play out his rookie contract and then draft someone next year.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2272 » by thesack12 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:00 pm

Big J wrote:
arich35 wrote:Insane people want to trade our 1st round pick for an unknown QB coming off an injury. Our roster is getting older, we need as much young talent as possible and not at the QB position at this point.


Look at what Daniels did this year & Purdy last year. QB on a rookie contract is insanely valuable.


You forgot a crucial part of that QB rookie contract equation. Said QB has to be actually be good.

There are many more bad QB's on rookie contracts, than good ones.

Will McCarthy be good? We'll see. But we won't be seeing that play out with him being a 49er.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2273 » by Big J » Mon Jan 27, 2025 5:34 pm

thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:
arich35 wrote:Insane people want to trade our 1st round pick for an unknown QB coming off an injury. Our roster is getting older, we need as much young talent as possible and not at the QB position at this point.


Look at what Daniels did this year & Purdy last year. QB on a rookie contract is insanely valuable.


You forgot a crucial part of that QB rookie contract equation. Said QB has to be actually be good.

There are many more bad QB's on rookie contracts, than good ones.

Will McCarthy be good? We'll see. But we won't be seeing that play out with him being a 49er.


And a QB on a big contract has to be better than good. They have to be elite.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2274 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 6:45 pm

thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:
arich35 wrote:Insane people want to trade our 1st round pick for an unknown QB coming off an injury. Our roster is getting older, we need as much young talent as possible and not at the QB position at this point.


Look at what Daniels did this year & Purdy last year. QB on a rookie contract is insanely valuable.


You forgot a crucial part of that QB rookie contract equation. Said QB has to be actually be good.

There are many more bad QB's on rookie contracts, than good ones.

Will McCarthy be good? We'll see. But we won't be seeing that play out with him being a 49er.


The 49ers are not using any of their upper end picks on a QB but i doubt any at all
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2275 » by arich35 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 7:51 pm

Big J wrote:
thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Look at what Daniels did this year & Purdy last year. QB on a rookie contract is insanely valuable.


You forgot a crucial part of that QB rookie contract equation. Said QB has to be actually be good.

There are many more bad QB's on rookie contracts, than good ones.

Will McCarthy be good? We'll see. But we won't be seeing that play out with him being a 49er.


And a QB on a big contract has to be better than good. They have to be elite.


Purdy has been a top 10 QB for 2.5 years with an average to below average offensive line, we aren't just going to land on a Allen, Jackson, Mahomes, Daniels type QB. After the whole Lance screw up this front office isn't going to gamble on a QB with the roster we have at the moment. Maybe in 2-3 years if this still isn't working and Purdy is getting worse, they will switch gears but right now they need to restock the OL/DL through the draft and free agency and go from there.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2276 » by Big J » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:07 pm

arich35 wrote:
Big J wrote:
thesack12 wrote:
You forgot a crucial part of that QB rookie contract equation. Said QB has to be actually be good.

There are many more bad QB's on rookie contracts, than good ones.

Will McCarthy be good? We'll see. But we won't be seeing that play out with him being a 49er.


And a QB on a big contract has to be better than good. They have to be elite.


Purdy has been a top 10 QB for 2.5 years with an average to below average offensive line, we aren't just going to land on a Allen, Jackson, Mahomes, Daniels type QB. After the whole Lance screw up this front office isn't going to gamble on a QB with the roster we have at the moment. Maybe in 2-3 years if this still isn't working and Purdy is getting worse, they will switch gears but right now they need to restock the OL/DL through the draft and free agency and go from there.


He was a top 10 QB because of the weapons. This season he wasn't top 20, and this roster isn't going to be the same if we pay him $60 million. That is 2 big time playmakers right there.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2277 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:14 pm

Big J wrote:
arich35 wrote:
Big J wrote:
And a QB on a big contract has to be better than good. They have to be elite.


Purdy has been a top 10 QB for 2.5 years with an average to below average offensive line, we aren't just going to land on a Allen, Jackson, Mahomes, Daniels type QB. After the whole Lance screw up this front office isn't going to gamble on a QB with the roster we have at the moment. Maybe in 2-3 years if this still isn't working and Purdy is getting worse, they will switch gears but right now they need to restock the OL/DL through the draft and free agency and go from there.


He was a top 10 QB because of the weapons. This season he wasn't top 20, and this roster isn't going to be the same if we pay him $60 million. That is 2 big time playmakers right there.


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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2278 » by thesack12 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 8:14 pm

Big J wrote:
thesack12 wrote:
Big J wrote:
Look at what Daniels did this year & Purdy last year. QB on a rookie contract is insanely valuable.


You forgot a crucial part of that QB rookie contract equation. Said QB has to be actually be good.

There are many more bad QB's on rookie contracts, than good ones.

Will McCarthy be good? We'll see. But we won't be seeing that play out with him being a 49er.


And a QB on a big contract has to be better than good. They have to be elite.


Which is currently irrelevant to the McCarthy situation.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2279 » by arich35 » Mon Jan 27, 2025 11:01 pm

Big J wrote:
arich35 wrote:
Big J wrote:
And a QB on a big contract has to be better than good. They have to be elite.


Purdy has been a top 10 QB for 2.5 years with an average to below average offensive line, we aren't just going to land on a Allen, Jackson, Mahomes, Daniels type QB. After the whole Lance screw up this front office isn't going to gamble on a QB with the roster we have at the moment. Maybe in 2-3 years if this still isn't working and Purdy is getting worse, they will switch gears but right now they need to restock the OL/DL through the draft and free agency and go from there.


He was a top 10 QB because of the weapons. This season he wasn't top 20, and this roster isn't going to be the same if we pay him $60 million. That is 2 big time playmakers right there.


Yes, he just threw the ball to all those weapons from 1 yard away.
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Re: The Brock Purdy Thread 

Post#2280 » by Jikkle » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:31 am

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/188401-insider-purdys-contract-progress-intriguing/

Sounding like the Purdy contract situation won't be an ugly one.

Interesting note is that it might not your bog standard QB contract that we've seen in recent years and looks like they are going for a shorter deal.

That means it won't be a 5 year deal and at most it'll be a 4 year deal. I'm wondering if Purdy wants to bet on himself and go even less with a 3-year deal so he'd be up for a potential bigger payday if his gamble pays off.

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