The Brock Purdy Thread

[arich35]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/188401-insider-purdys-contract-progress-intriguing/

Sounding like the Purdy contract situation won't be an ugly one.

Interesting note is that it might not your bog standard QB contract that we've seen in recent years and looks like they are going for a shorter deal.

That means it won't be a 5 year deal and at most it'll be a 4 year deal. I'm wondering if Purdy wants to bet on himself and go even less with a 3-year deal so he'd be up for a potential bigger payday if his gamble pays off.

It wouldn't be the dumbest thing to do, bet on himself while he still has a lot of weapons around him and the salary cap and QB contracts will just keep going up and up

[WentzerWuver]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/188401-insider-purdys-contract-progress-intriguing/

Sounding like the Purdy contract situation won't be an ugly one.

Interesting note is that it might not your bog standard QB contract that we've seen in recent years and looks like they are going for a shorter deal.

That means it won't be a 5 year deal and at most it'll be a 4 year deal. I'm wondering if Purdy wants to bet on himself and go even less with a 3-year deal so he'd be up for a potential bigger payday if his gamble pays off.

It wouldn't be the dumbest thing to do, bet on himself while he still has a lot of weapons around him and the salary cap and QB contracts will just keep going up and up

Or draft the most QB ready to start immediately on a rookie contract with no limitations in day 2. I would wait until after the draft to pay Purdy if it comes to that, NOT beforehand to make him sweat to accept Baker's contract or walk.

https://youtube.com/shorts/l0izw5qd-Qg?si=6Y6v8nnq6v4vw2mR

https://youtu.be/Smgzbw2rG6M?si=mCseXgmlmwYj1txU

[arich35]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/188401-insider-purdys-contract-progress-intriguing/

Sounding like the Purdy contract situation won't be an ugly one.

Interesting note is that it might not your bog standard QB contract that we've seen in recent years and looks like they are going for a shorter deal.

That means it won't be a 5 year deal and at most it'll be a 4 year deal. I'm wondering if Purdy wants to bet on himself and go even less with a 3-year deal so he'd be up for a potential bigger payday if his gamble pays off.

It wouldn't be the dumbest thing to do, bet on himself while he still has a lot of weapons around him and the salary cap and QB contracts will just keep going up and up

Or draft the most QB ready to start immediately on a rookie contract with no limitations in day 2. I would wait until after the draft to pay Purdy if it comes to that, NOT beforehand to make him sweat to accept Baker's contract or walk.

https://youtube.com/shorts/l0izw5qd-Qg?si=6Y6v8nnq6v4vw2mR

https://youtu.be/Smgzbw2rG6M?si=mCseXgmlmwYj1txU

Very few rookie QBs can come in and start immediately in Kyle's offense and they aren't going to gamble the last couple years they have with some of these vets on an unknown

[wco81]

Mahomes lost this SB for the Chiefs. Their defense actually held up pretty well until the pick 6 and then the int. inside the 10.

He's got all the talent in the world but the last couple of seasons, he's been a game manager, play very conservative and do just enough to win. They won 17 games this year but get blown out in the SB, the biggest frauds of all time.

He should be putting up numbers like Allen or Jackson. Or even Purdy, with the arm talent and off-schedule ability that he has.

[Jikkle]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/188608-report-49ers-begin-contract-talks/

Talks with Purdy on an extension have begun and it sounds like the 9ers are motivated to get it done quickly.

Makes sense since I'd imagine they want to know what money they are working with before FA hits and they can structure contracts accordingly.

[Jikkle]

Mahomes lost this SB for the Chiefs. Their defense actually held up pretty well until the pick 6 and then the int. inside the 10.

He's got all the talent in the world but the last couple of seasons, he's been a game manager, play very conservative and do just enough to win. They won 17 games this year but get blown out in the SB, the biggest frauds of all time.

He should be putting up numbers like Allen or Jackson. Or even Purdy, with the arm talent and off-schedule ability that he has.

It shows a QB can only elevate his team so much and a reason why I've avoided the whole "Can Purdy elevate the team enough around him to be worth a big contract" conversations.

I'd still take Mahomes #1 overall in a draft but it's clear that just being a unanimous 1st ballot HOFer talent isn't enough to wave a wand and make your offense great.

Mahomes weapons aren't great and haven't been great since he had Hill and Kelce in their primes and Reid is a masterful playcaller and passing attack designer but the lack of legit running game really killed the Chief's offense because they really needed that to counter the Eagle's defense.

[Big J]

Mahomes lost this SB for the Chiefs. Their defense actually held up pretty well until the pick 6 and then the int. inside the 10.

He's got all the talent in the world but the last couple of seasons, he's been a game manager, play very conservative and do just enough to win. They won 17 games this year but get blown out in the SB, the biggest frauds of all time.

He should be putting up numbers like Allen or Jackson. Or even Purdy, with the arm talent and off-schedule ability that he has.

It shows a QB can only elevate his team so much and a reason why I've avoided the whole "Can Purdy elevate the team enough around him to be worth a big contract" conversations.

I'd still take Mahomes #1 overall in a draft but it's clear that just being a unanimous 1st ballot HOFer talent isn't enough to wave a wand and make your offense great.

Mahomes weapons aren't great and haven't been great since he had Hill and Kelce in their primes and Reid is a masterful playcaller and passing attack designer but the lack of legit running game really killed the Chief's offense because they really needed that to counter the Eagle's defense.

This is a good reasoning for why we shouldn’t pay big dollars at the QB position.

[CrimsonCrew]

Mahomes lost this SB for the Chiefs. Their defense actually held up pretty well until the pick 6 and then the int. inside the 10.

He's got all the talent in the world but the last couple of seasons, he's been a game manager, play very conservative and do just enough to win. They won 17 games this year but get blown out in the SB, the biggest frauds of all time.

He should be putting up numbers like Allen or Jackson. Or even Purdy, with the arm talent and off-schedule ability that he has.

It shows a QB can only elevate his team so much and a reason why I've avoided the whole "Can Purdy elevate the team enough around him to be worth a big contract" conversations.

I'd still take Mahomes #1 overall in a draft but it's clear that just being a unanimous 1st ballot HOFer talent isn't enough to wave a wand and make your offense great.

Mahomes weapons aren't great and haven't been great since he had Hill and Kelce in their primes and Reid is a masterful playcaller and passing attack designer but the lack of legit running game really killed the Chief's offense because they really needed that to counter the Eagle's defense.

What's curious is that they didn't even try to run it. They have a really good interior OL. Pacheco is a good back. And they called seven run plays vs. 42 passes (I think all four of Mahomes' runs were scrambles). That's insane. Obviously coming out of half time they had to go pass heavy, but you still need to run it every once in a while.

[arich35]

Mahomes lost this SB for the Chiefs. Their defense actually held up pretty well until the pick 6 and then the int. inside the 10.

He's got all the talent in the world but the last couple of seasons, he's been a game manager, play very conservative and do just enough to win. They won 17 games this year but get blown out in the SB, the biggest frauds of all time.

He should be putting up numbers like Allen or Jackson. Or even Purdy, with the arm talent and off-schedule ability that he has.

It shows a QB can only elevate his team so much and a reason why I've avoided the whole "Can Purdy elevate the team enough around him to be worth a big contract" conversations.

I'd still take Mahomes #1 overall in a draft but it's clear that just being a unanimous 1st ballot HOFer talent isn't enough to wave a wand and make your offense great.

Mahomes weapons aren't great and haven't been great since he had Hill and Kelce in their primes and Reid is a masterful playcaller and passing attack designer but the lack of legit running game really killed the Chief's offense because they really needed that to counter the Eagle's defense.

Shows how important OL play is, you can be considered a top 5 QB of all time but if you don't get time to throw there isn't much you can do. His stats the last 2 years have been middle of the pack when it comes to QBs, if we are just looking at stats and not win/loss (team game) he is not in the top 10

[Pattersonca65]

Mahomes lost this SB for the Chiefs. Their defense actually held up pretty well until the pick 6 and then the int. inside the 10.

He's got all the talent in the world but the last couple of seasons, he's been a game manager, play very conservative and do just enough to win. They won 17 games this year but get blown out in the SB, the biggest frauds of all time.

He should be putting up numbers like Allen or Jackson. Or even Purdy, with the arm talent and off-schedule ability that he has.

It shows a QB can only elevate his team so much and a reason why I've avoided the whole "Can Purdy elevate the team enough around him to be worth a big contract" conversations.

I'd still take Mahomes #1 overall in a draft but it's clear that just being a unanimous 1st ballot HOFer talent isn't enough to wave a wand and make your offense great.

Mahomes weapons aren't great and haven't been great since he had Hill and Kelce in their primes and Reid is a masterful playcaller and passing attack designer but the lack of legit running game really killed the Chief's offense because they really needed that to counter the Eagle's defense.

This is so basic to antyone who underdtands football. Last night should be Mahomes worst playoff appearance ever. His QBR was 1 for the first half. He didnt elevate anyone last night. The pass protection was bad last night so it is BS to think you can throw a bunch of scrub lineman around an elite QB and he will just play through it. You can go back 50 years and make a list of elite QBs who have never won a super bowl, only because they didnt have a good team around them in all three phases

[Jikkle]

Mahomes lost this SB for the Chiefs. Their defense actually held up pretty well until the pick 6 and then the int. inside the 10.

He's got all the talent in the world but the last couple of seasons, he's been a game manager, play very conservative and do just enough to win. They won 17 games this year but get blown out in the SB, the biggest frauds of all time.

He should be putting up numbers like Allen or Jackson. Or even Purdy, with the arm talent and off-schedule ability that he has.

It shows a QB can only elevate his team so much and a reason why I've avoided the whole "Can Purdy elevate the team enough around him to be worth a big contract" conversations.

I'd still take Mahomes #1 overall in a draft but it's clear that just being a unanimous 1st ballot HOFer talent isn't enough to wave a wand and make your offense great.

Mahomes weapons aren't great and haven't been great since he had Hill and Kelce in their primes and Reid is a masterful playcaller and passing attack designer but the lack of legit running game really killed the Chief's offense because they really needed that to counter the Eagle's defense.

This is a good reasoning for why we shouldn’t pay big dollars at the QB position.

You can't get around it because there simply are not 32 people in the world capable of playing the position at a high enough level to consistently put you in championship contention.

That's what makes team building in the NFL so tricky is you're never going to get value for what you pay the position but the position is so vital that you have no choice to pay near top of the market for guys that are more just above the middle of the market in terms of quality.

Nearly every QB in the playoffs was a guy that got top of the market or close to top of the market deals when they signed their extensions. The only real exceptions were basically Darnold who was terrible and Daniels who's on his rookie deal but he's on pace to get a top of the market deal when he's due for an extension.

[Big J]

It shows a QB can only elevate his team so much and a reason why I've avoided the whole "Can Purdy elevate the team enough around him to be worth a big contract" conversations.

I'd still take Mahomes #1 overall in a draft but it's clear that just being a unanimous 1st ballot HOFer talent isn't enough to wave a wand and make your offense great.

Mahomes weapons aren't great and haven't been great since he had Hill and Kelce in their primes and Reid is a masterful playcaller and passing attack designer but the lack of legit running game really killed the Chief's offense because they really needed that to counter the Eagle's defense.

This is a good reasoning for why we shouldn’t pay big dollars at the QB position.

You can't get around it because there simply are not 32 people in the world capable of playing the position at a high enough level to consistently put you in championship contention.

That's what makes team building in the NFL so tricky is you're never going to get value for what you pay the position but the position is so vital that you have no choice to pay near top of the market for guys that are more just above the middle of the market in terms of quality.

Nearly every QB in the playoffs was a guy that got top of the market or close to top of the market deals when they signed their extensions. The only real exceptions were basically Darnold who was terrible and Daniels who's on his rookie deal but he's on pace to get a top of the market deal when he's due for an extension.

Exactly why I always argue for either having a top level guy, or someone cheap. Paying a mediocre QB like a star is a death sentence in this league.

[Samurai]

York said today that "I know we want Brock to be here for a long time and we'll do everything we can to make that work." Pretty much echoes what Lynch said earlier. Hopefully both sides can agree on a number without another lengthy pre-season holdout; we saw how well that worked too many times before.

[clyde21]

sounds like standard owner speak, of course they want Brock here long term, at what price is the question.

[RIPskaterdude]

If the Raiders said yes, and we were guaranteed to get Cousins for cheap after the Falcons wave him, would you trade Purdy for the Raiders pick at 6 + future 1st?

[Pattersonca65]

If the Raiders said yes, and we were guaranteed to get Cousins for cheap after the Falcons wave him, would you trade Purdy for the Raiders pick at 6 + future 1st?

Hell no. Cousins was awful last year and benched. He showed his age last year. It is only going to get worse. He should only be considered a backup at this point.

[CrimsonCrew]

#6 overall and a 2026 first that would likely be top-half of the draft? I guess it depends where we are on the negotiation front with Purdy. If he's pushing for $60 million, then yeah, I probably do that trade and try to bring back Darnold (who I am not at all crazy about, especially if we don't shore up the OL) or find another solid starter. I like Purdy a lot, and this FO hasn't exactly crushed it at the QB position out of mostly lucking into Purdy, but I have huge reservations about paying him top dollar. I just don't see how he can compete with the top guys when he's not surrounded by superior talent.

At six, we could hopefully take Mason Graham. Our OT of the future at 11. A very talented DE in the second. Maybe a true FS in the third. We could really beef up our defense while bolstering the OL and adding a TE and WR to develop in the third, fourth, or fifth rounds. If negotiations were stalling and we got this offer, I think I'd take it.

[CrimsonCrew]

I should add that Cousins doesn't really move the needle for me, though if he's super cheap, I guess I'd kick the tires.

[Big J]

If the Raiders said yes, and we were guaranteed to get Cousins for cheap after the Falcons wave him, would you trade Purdy for the Raiders pick at 6 + future 1st?

Of course. We'd be idiots not to take that trade. Purdy isn't worth close to 2 firsts let alone 6 and another one.

[clyde21]

#6 overall and a 2026 first that would likely be top-half of the draft? I guess it depends where we are on the negotiation front with Purdy. If he's pushing for $60 million, then yeah, I probably do that trade and try to bring back Darnold (who I am not at all crazy about, especially if we don't shore up the OL) or find another solid starter. I like Purdy a lot, and this FO hasn't exactly crushed it at the QB position out of mostly lucking into Purdy, but I have huge reservations about paying him top dollar. I just don't see how he can compete with the top guys when he's not surrounded by superior talent.

At six, we could hopefully take Mason Graham. Our OT of the future at 11. A very talented DE in the second. Maybe a true FS in the third. We could really beef up our defense while bolstering the OL and adding a TE and WR to develop in the third, fourth, or fifth rounds. If negotiations were stalling and we got this offer, I think I'd take it.

wouldn't be totally against, take Will Howard or Riley Leonard in the third, and see what happens.