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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#241 » by Pattersonca65 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 10:57 pm

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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#242 » by thesack12 » Sun Oct 12, 2025 11:39 pm

After Warner getting hurt today, I'm not sure Lynch is as motivated to make a big move, but Trey Hendrickson left his game early with a back injury.

I'm not sure of the severity, but he might no longer be a trade option now.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#243 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:11 am

Warner is out for the season
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#244 » by thesack12 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:44 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:Warner is out for the season


*sigh*

That confirmation came real quick.

Up until now Fred had only missed 1 game his entire career. Now in his absence, the defense is completely sunk.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#245 » by wco81 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:45 am

RIPskaterdude wrote:Warner is out for the season


That might be career.

He's about to turn 29.

Just seems too much like Bowman, Greenlaw and to a lesser extent, Willis who had to retire early.

Now they have to look at potentially getting out to two big contracts of players who have been DPOY/All-Pro defensive players.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#246 » by thesack12 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:46 am

After the game, Jauan Jennings said he has FIVE broken ribs.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#247 » by thesack12 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:50 am

wco81 wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:Warner is out for the season


That might be career.

He's about to turn 29.

Just seems too much like Bowman, Greenlaw and to a lesser extent, Willis who had to retire early.

Now they have to look at potentially getting out to two big contracts of players who have been DPOY/All-Pro defensive players.


Up until now Warner has missed 1 game his entire career. He's been the epitome of an iron man.

A dislocated/fractured ankle, isn't super ominous for his futute outlook. Its not like he ruptured his achilles like Greenlaw did.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#248 » by wco81 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:51 am

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wco81 wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:Warner is out for the season


That might be career.

He's about to turn 29.

Just seems too much like Bowman, Greenlaw and to a lesser extent, Willis who had to retire early.

Now they have to look at potentially getting out to two big contracts of players who have been DPOY/All-Pro defensive players.


Up until now Warner has missed 1 game his entire career. He's been the epitome of an iron man.

A dislocated/fractured ankle, isn't super ominous for his futute outlook. Its not like he ruptured his achilles like Greenlaw did.


His age, his speed, which is his best attribute, his contract.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#249 » by thesack12 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 2:02 am

wco81 wrote:
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wco81 wrote:
That might be career.

He's about to turn 29.

Just seems too much like Bowman, Greenlaw and to a lesser extent, Willis who had to retire early.

Now they have to look at potentially getting out to two big contracts of players who have been DPOY/All-Pro defensive players.


Up until now Warner has missed 1 game his entire career. He's been the epitome of an iron man.

A dislocated/fractured ankle, isn't super ominous for his futute outlook. Its not like he ruptured his achilles like Greenlaw did.


His age, his speed, which is his best attribute, his contract.


Warner's best attribute is his brain. He has an incredible football IQ and might be the most instinctual defensive player in the NFL.

And again, while I'm not trying to say its not a serious injury, a fracture/dislocated ankle is not a super debilitating injury for the long term.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#250 » by Harry Palmer » Mon Oct 13, 2025 2:55 am

Can’t recall another 4-2 start that felt this dead in the water.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#251 » by clyde21 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 4:31 am

wco81 wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:Warner is out for the season


That might be career.

He's about to turn 29.

Just seems too much like Bowman, Greenlaw and to a lesser extent, Willis who had to retire early.

Now they have to look at potentially getting out to two big contracts of players who have been DPOY/All-Pro defensive players.


all three guys you mentioned had nagging lower body injuries, Warner has been an iron man, and this injury as far as we know so far isn't a tissue tear, just a bone break, while sucks it doesn't necessarily hurt his athleticism long term and shouldn't be a repeatable injury

plenty of things about this team to be pessimistic about, Warner's career being over is absurd.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#252 » by Jikkle » Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:41 am

Harry Palmer wrote:Can’t recall another 4-2 start that felt this dead in the water.


It's dead in the water because they once again ignored the offensive line and it's even more putrid this year than in years past.

At least in previous years they were above average in run blocking but this year they are awful in that category and the entire offense is built around being effective in the running game.

If this team just had a good overall offensive line we'd be scoring points like crazy and it'd somewhat offset a beleaguered defense.

The defense wasn't a complete train wreck yesterday they just had a few plays they really screwed the pooch with mental errors.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#253 » by wco81 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:47 pm

clyde21 wrote:
wco81 wrote:
RIPskaterdude wrote:Warner is out for the season


That might be career.

He's about to turn 29.

Just seems too much like Bowman, Greenlaw and to a lesser extent, Willis who had to retire early.

Now they have to look at potentially getting out to two big contracts of players who have been DPOY/All-Pro defensive players.


all three guys you mentioned had nagging lower body injuries, Warner has been an iron man, and this injury as far as we know so far isn't a tissue tear, just a bone break, while sucks it doesn't necessarily hurt his athleticism long term and shouldn't be a repeatable injury

plenty of things about this team to be pessimistic about, Warner's career being over is absurd.


Oh he will play again just like Bowman came back, a shadow of his former greatness. But he will be 30 on a huge salary. 49ers have to be thinking about drafting his eventual replacement and getting out of his contract.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#254 » by thesack12 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:50 pm

Jikkle wrote:
Harry Palmer wrote:Can’t recall another 4-2 start that felt this dead in the water.


It's dead in the water because they once again ignored the offensive line and it's even more putrid this year than in years past.

At least in previous years they were above average in run blocking but this year they are awful in that category and the entire offense is built around being effective in the running game.

If this team just had a good overall offensive line we'd be scoring points like crazy and it'd somewhat offset a beleaguered defense.

The defense wasn't a complete train wreck yesterday they just had a few plays they really screwed the pooch with mental errors.


While this is true, Tampa is probably the only other team in the NFL that is remotely close to SF on the injury front.

Bucs came into the game without WR1, WR2, RB1, RT1, and lost WR3 before halftime. SF's defense is going to face MUCH more talented and cohesive offenses moving forward.

The Bucs kicking game also kept this game closer than it probably should have been.

I'm saddened to say it, but there are dark days ahead my friends.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#255 » by thesack12 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 12:56 pm

wco81 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
wco81 wrote:
That might be career.

He's about to turn 29.

Just seems too much like Bowman, Greenlaw and to a lesser extent, Willis who had to retire early.

Now they have to look at potentially getting out to two big contracts of players who have been DPOY/All-Pro defensive players.


all three guys you mentioned had nagging lower body injuries, Warner has been an iron man, and this injury as far as we know so far isn't a tissue tear, just a bone break, while sucks it doesn't necessarily hurt his athleticism long term and shouldn't be a repeatable injury

plenty of things about this team to be pessimistic about, Warner's career being over is absurd.


Oh he will play again just like Bowman came back, a shadow of his former greatness. But he will be 30 on a huge salary. 49ers have to be thinking about drafting his eventual replacement and getting out of his contract.


You are forgetting the part where Bowman had a catastrophic knee injury. Dude tore his ACL/MCL/PCL/and Meniscus. His entire left knee exploded.

The Warner and Bowman injuries are an apples to oranges comparison.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#256 » by wco81 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 1:02 pm

Bowman wasn’t making the huge salary that Warner will be making, as he hits the wrong side of 30 trying to come back.

Especially when the team realizes that their contention window is closed and it’s probably about time for a rebuild, turn over the roster to move on from players on big contracts suffering major injuries.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#257 » by thesack12 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:10 pm

wco81 wrote:Bowman wasn’t making the huge salary that Warner will be making, as he hits the wrong side of 30 trying to come back.

Especially when the team realizes that their contention window is closed and it’s probably about time for a rebuild, turn over the roster to move on from players on big contracts suffering major injuries.


Contracts have nothing to due with how a guy is going to recover/respond to an injury.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#258 » by wco81 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 3:39 pm

Oh OK, there's no such thing as a cap, no such thing as players getting too old, no such thing as having to pay other players.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#259 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 4:03 pm

wco81 wrote:Oh OK, there's no such thing as a cap, no such thing as players getting too old, no such thing as having to pay other players.


Warner is not too old yet. He is 29 years old and this is not a knee injury like Bowman had and he is the captain of the defense.. There is a cap but the 49ers are managing it. They just did a salary dump this year and released a bunch of older underperforming players a couple with large contracts. They have a bigger number of young players on cheap contracts now. There are also some large contracts that will go before Warner does. Trent Williams at most might have one more season. Shanahan and Lynch are not going to blow the entire thing up at this point.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#260 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Oct 13, 2025 4:55 pm

Pretty frustrated this morning. Probably my fault for starting to get my hopes up. All season I've just been thinking, "If only we could get healthy, this team could make some noise in the playoffs." Alas, with our two most important (by a pretty wide margin, though Lenoir is also on the short list) defensive players both done for the year, I don't see how we make a realistic move in the playoffs. Just brutal.

The defense has outperformed expectations all year, with the prospect of it improving as the young guys settle into their roles. The offense has been surprisingly effective given the extent of the injuries to the skill positions - granted the shoddy OL play and ineffective red zone offense have remained a problem. We still have a good shot of making the playoffs given the schedule and the expected return of Kittle and Pearsall - and maybe even Aiyuk at some point. But prospects of being legit contenders without Bosa and Warner are exceedingly thin. Just two irreplaceable guys.

Our young players on D will be getting great seasoning this year, but the end result is likely to be a waste of another year of Trent, CMC, and Kittle, all of whom are getting long in the tooth for the positions they play. And given the schedule and our four wins to date, we're probably looking at a draft pick in the high teens or 20s. Tough pill to swallow. Got to hope - yet again - that this team can stay even moderately healthy next year.

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