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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#261 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:21 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Pretty frustrated this morning. Probably my fault for starting to get my hopes up. All season I've just been thinking, "If only we could get healthy, this team could make some noise in the playoffs." Alas, with our two most important (by a pretty wide margin, though Lenoir is also on the short list) defensive players both done for the year, I don't see how we make a realistic move in the playoffs. Just brutal.

The defense has outperformed expectations all year, with the prospect of it improving as the young guys settle into their roles. The offense has been surprisingly effective given the extent of the injuries to the skill positions - granted the shoddy OL play and ineffective red zone offense have remained a problem. We still have a good shot of making the playoffs given the schedule and the expected return of Kittle and Pearsall - and maybe even Aiyuk at some point. But prospects of being legit contenders without Bosa and Warner are exceedingly thin. Just two irreplaceable guys.

Our young players on D will be getting great seasoning this year, but the end result is likely to be a waste of another year of Trent, CMC, and Kittle, all of whom are getting long in the tooth for the positions they play. And given the schedule and our four wins to date, we're probably looking at a draft pick in the high teens or 20s. Tough pill to swallow. Got to hope - yet again - that this team can stay even moderately healthy next year.


I don't think our schedule doesn't quite look as weak as it once was. The Texans, Giants, and Colts could be tough as will all the divisional games. That leaves the Panthers, Browns, Titans, and Bears. The defensive did outperform expectations to date, but even with Bosa the pass rush was not great, now it is almost nonexistent and the safeties are struggling in coverage which is compounded by the lack of pass rush.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#262 » by wco81 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 5:39 pm

Jones and the offense have over performed, despite how poor the OL has been, especially in the running game.

They're going to have to score 25-30 or more in many games.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#263 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Oct 13, 2025 6:50 pm

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CrimsonCrew wrote:Pretty frustrated this morning. Probably my fault for starting to get my hopes up. All season I've just been thinking, "If only we could get healthy, this team could make some noise in the playoffs." Alas, with our two most important (by a pretty wide margin, though Lenoir is also on the short list) defensive players both done for the year, I don't see how we make a realistic move in the playoffs. Just brutal.

The defense has outperformed expectations all year, with the prospect of it improving as the young guys settle into their roles. The offense has been surprisingly effective given the extent of the injuries to the skill positions - granted the shoddy OL play and ineffective red zone offense have remained a problem. We still have a good shot of making the playoffs given the schedule and the expected return of Kittle and Pearsall - and maybe even Aiyuk at some point. But prospects of being legit contenders without Bosa and Warner are exceedingly thin. Just two irreplaceable guys.

Our young players on D will be getting great seasoning this year, but the end result is likely to be a waste of another year of Trent, CMC, and Kittle, all of whom are getting long in the tooth for the positions they play. And given the schedule and our four wins to date, we're probably looking at a draft pick in the high teens or 20s. Tough pill to swallow. Got to hope - yet again - that this team can stay even moderately healthy next year.


I don't think our schedule doesn't quite look as weak as it once was. The Texans, Giants, and Colts could be tough as will all the divisional games. That leaves the Panthers, Browns, Titans, and Bears. The defensive did outperform expectations to date, but even with Bosa the pass rush was not great, now it is almost nonexistent and the safeties are struggling in coverage which is compounded by the lack of pass rush.


That's fair. Even that Browns game is on the road, very possibly in rough conditions. But even if we go five and six down the stretch, we may be in the playoff hunt. And the offense should get better with Kittle back, to say nothing of Pearsall and possibly Aiyuk. Though less urgency to rush the latter back at this point. Hopefully we also start easing back on McCaffrey's touches.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#264 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Oct 13, 2025 7:21 pm

If the OL was better yesterday in the 2nd half, there's an argument that the team should have had at least 9 points more
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#265 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:22 pm

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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#266 » by CrimsonCrew » Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:38 pm

Just what we need. Who knew Aiyuk was such a drama queen?
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#267 » by RIPskaterdude » Mon Oct 13, 2025 11:04 pm

49ers need to start trading players who hold out in the offseason. We didn't see Kittle, Purdy, or Warner hold out for new deals
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#268 » by Pattersonca65 » Mon Oct 13, 2025 11:31 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Just what we need. Who knew Aiyuk was such a drama queen?


What did you hear about that? I saw an article online from NBC Bay Area which probably came from tweets commenting on Aiyuk scrubbing his social media accounts of anything related to the 49ers but no comments from BA directly. Then Shanahan reports today that BA has been working hard to get back on the field. Not sure what the deal is with such lack of inf
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#269 » by arich35 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 12:40 am

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CrimsonCrew wrote:Just what we need. Who knew Aiyuk was such a drama queen?


What did you hear about that? I saw an article online from NBC Bay Area which probably came from tweets commenting on Aiyuk scrubbing his social media accounts of anything related to the 49ers but no comments from BA directly. Then Shanahan reports today that BA has been working hard to get back on the field. Not sure what the deal is with such lack of inf


I think I saw somewhere that the person who wrote the article had to correct it. I think Aiyuk hasn't been following the 49ers since before he signed his contract

"This report is patently false
Brandon Aiyuk never refollowed the 49ers
His IG has looked the same for months
He has a link to his profile page directly pointing back to 49ers
What a random thing to spin while being completely wrong on every point made about his SM"
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#270 » by thesack12 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 12:58 am

wco81 wrote:Oh OK, there's no such thing as a cap, no such thing as players getting too old, no such thing as having to pay other players.


Relax bud, you are talking about two different things.

You basically implied that Warner's career is over. When people pointed it out that his particular injury recovery outlook isn't all that bad, you tried to correlate it another guy who had an entirely different (much more serious) type of injury as to why Fred's future outlook is supposedly grim. Warner's and Bowman's injuries are not a valid or even reasonable comparison.

Cap, contracts, team building, etc are all factors of the overall dynamic of the team. But none of those factors are going to effect how Fred Warner recovers from his dislocated ankle.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#271 » by thesack12 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:27 am

CrimsonCrew wrote:Pretty frustrated this morning. Probably my fault for starting to get my hopes up. All season I've just been thinking, "If only we could get healthy, this team could make some noise in the playoffs." Alas, with our two most important (by a pretty wide margin, though Lenoir is also on the short list) defensive players both done for the year, I don't see how we make a realistic move in the playoffs. Just brutal.

The defense has outperformed expectations all year, with the prospect of it improving as the young guys settle into their roles. The offense has been surprisingly effective given the extent of the injuries to the skill positions - granted the shoddy OL play and ineffective red zone offense have remained a problem. We still have a good shot of making the playoffs given the schedule and the expected return of Kittle and Pearsall - and maybe even Aiyuk at some point. But prospects of being legit contenders without Bosa and Warner are exceedingly thin. Just two irreplaceable guys.

Our young players on D will be getting great seasoning this year, but the end result is likely to be a waste of another year of Trent, CMC, and Kittle, all of whom are getting long in the tooth for the positions they play. And given the schedule and our four wins to date, we're probably looking at a draft pick in the high teens or 20s. Tough pill to swallow. Got to hope - yet again - that this team can stay even moderately healthy next year.


Yeah man, its just an incredibly brutal barrage of gut punches.

Losing Bosa was bad enough, but assuming SF would have been able to trade for a viable pass rusher they could have gotten by. A pure pass rusher can be plugged into most any system, if all you are mainly asking him to do is go after the QB and soak up blocks. Those guys can mostly play off instincts. Of course I'm over simplifying with that statement, but even just having a guy to plug into obvious passing situations would have helped.

But losing Warner man, you lost the heart and soul of your defense (and arguably team overall.) Warner has truly amazing instincts, and he's hit seeking missile that always knows where the ball is. He's a coach on the field, and tells everybody where to line up and what to look for based on what the offenses are showing. He's probably the best LB in coverage in the NFL. He's the best tackler on the team by far. Both his tangibles and intangibles are literally not replaceable.

Fred Warner was the one guy SF could not lose, and unfortunately they did.

This sucks man, it feels so bad.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#272 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:44 am

arich35 wrote:
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CrimsonCrew wrote:Just what we need. Who knew Aiyuk was such a drama queen?


What did you hear about that? I saw an article online from NBC Bay Area which probably came from tweets commenting on Aiyuk scrubbing his social media accounts of anything related to the 49ers but no comments from BA directly. Then Shanahan reports today that BA has been working hard to get back on the field. Not sure what the deal is with such lack of inf[/quo

Yea, it looks like trying to creare drama and a headline

I think I saw somewhere that the person who wrote the article had to correct it. I think Aiyuk hasn't been following the 49ers since before he signed his contract

"This report is patently false
Brandon Aiyuk never refollowed the 49ers
His IG has looked the same for months
He has a link to his profile page directly pointing back to 49ers
What a random thing to spin while being completely wrong on every point made about his SM"
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#273 » by Pattersonca65 » Tue Oct 14, 2025 2:44 am

And our next opponent just beat the Bills tonight
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#274 » by CrimsonCrew » Tue Oct 14, 2025 8:15 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:And our next opponent just beat the Bills tonight


We'll definitely have to do a much better job of stopping the run than we have in some of our games. The young players need to have good games.

They're crossing the country on a short week, so that will be a clear advantage. Very winnable game, but we'll have to execute better than we did this past week....
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#275 » by Pattersonca65 » Yesterday 3:30 pm

Expecting Kittle back this week but it sounds like Pearsall is still up in the air
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#276 » by CrimsonCrew » Yesterday 6:36 pm

Something that escaped me at the time: on the play where Warner was injured, we had ten men on the field and were missing the RDE. I have heard people say that Gipson, who was just elevated from the PS, was supposed to be out there. The LT gets out unblocked and makes contact with Warner, who kind of spins out of it and gets rolled up from behind.

There's a fair argument that the injury to Warner was a direct product of the injury to Bosa. Just brutal.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#277 » by Pattersonca65 » Yesterday 6:55 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Something that escaped me at the time: on the play where Warner was injured, we had ten men on the field and were missing the RDE. I have heard people say that Gipson, who was just elevated from the PS, was supposed to be out there. The LT gets out unblocked and makes contact with Warner, who kind of spins out of it and gets rolled up from behind.

There's a fair argument that the injury to Warner was a direct product of the injury to Bosa. Just brutal.


This has been widely reported. Shanahan talked about the play but refused to name the player that messed up.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#278 » by CrimsonCrew » Yesterday 8:26 pm

So damn frustrating.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#279 » by wco81 » Yesterday 8:56 pm

They were tackling so well in the first couple of games.

Letting Mayfield make that scramble shows how much tackling has deteriorated, even apart from the big injuries.

You just have to hope the young players on defense show improvement over the course of the season, be more consistent in effort and awareness.
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Re: 2025 49ers Season 

Post#280 » by CrimsonCrew » Yesterday 9:17 pm

wco81 wrote:They were tackling so well in the first couple of games.

Letting Mayfield make that scramble shows how much tackling has deteriorated, even apart from the big injuries.

You just have to hope the young players on defense show improvement over the course of the season, be more consistent in effort and awareness.


Yeah, letting him do that was inexcusable. I thought Mykel Williams was held downfield a bit (still well behind the line to gain), but at least two other guys had Mayfield in their hands and let him go.

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