2022 Season Thread

thesack12 · Post #281 » by **thesack12** » Tue Oct 18, 2022 9:38 pm

As for the injuries, yeah I don't know what it is. But I agree with y'all, that at some point when you are among the most injured teams year in, year out, it has to be more than bad luck.

Re-injury also seems to be a prevalent recurring thing for this team. Seems like a lot of guys will come back from injury, then get hurt again and put back on the shelf after a game or two.

Up until pretty recently, it also seemed like a lot of guys would suffer setbacks in their rehab and be out longer than expected.

So its just a new injury prevention issue, the recover/rehab process leaves a lot to be desired as well.

I don't have any answers, but I wish they would figure it out quickly. Seems like the 9ers can't even go one game without losing someone to serious injury, many times to key players.

thesack12 · Post #282 » by **thesack12** » Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:58 pm

Read on Twitter

great news on all those guys.

Unfortunately Mooney Ward, Hufanga, Ebukam, Armstead, and McGlinchey all missed practice. Armstead has always been expected to, but the 9ers might be without all those other guys on Sunday.

As for Jimmie Ward, we've all long since accepted that he won't be making any interceptions. At least he now has an excuse why he won't get any picks for the next few games, lol.

CrimsonCrew · Post #283 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Thu Oct 20, 2022 6:26 pm

I feel like we opened Verrett's practice window too soon. We shouldn't have done it as soon as he was eligible. Seems like we were setting him up for a setback. Hopefully it was just soreness as he gets back into game shape, and he'll be good to go. We could really use him if he can play at or near the level he hit in 2020.

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #284 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:24 am

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TheMonarch · Post #285 » by **TheMonarch** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:29 am

Wow. How many draft picks do we need to spend on RBs?

arich35 · Post #286 » by **arich35** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:33 am

Looks like we won't draft next year.
He will be great in this offense though as long as he stays healthy which probably won't happen

wco81 · Post #287 » by **wco81** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:33 am

Just hope that they didn't pay anywhere close to what Carolina was reportedly demanding, like 2 FRPs.

McCaffrey after his injuries probably want to run outside but that's not the 49ers game.

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #288 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:33 am

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wco81 · Post #289 » by **wco81** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:34 am

Wow that's a lot.

Dumb trade.

Seems like a move of desperation, only 3-3 with injuries, year 6 with high expectations, before there are some big extensions given out.

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #290 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:35 am

arich35 wrote:Looks like we won't draft next year.
He will be great in this offense though as long as he stays healthy which probably won't happen

They’re finally buying into the Rams philosophy.

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #291 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:41 am

wco81 wrote:Wow that's a lot.

Dumb trade.

It is a lot. But it’s not like we’ve been knocking it out the ball park with our draft picks anyway. We passed up on Tariq Woolen; Creed Humphrey; Trevon Diggs; etc. whiffed on a whole lot. I mean a lot of players, I lost hope on our front office in regard to college scouting/talent evaluators. This trade may pay dividends for us in 2023-24 season when Trey is back.

Samurai · Post #292 » by **Samurai** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:51 am

Even if we don't keep him beyond this season due to the big cap hit in 23 and 24, we may have to cut a lot of salary to try and recoup some of those draft picks. Looks like we are going all in this season and screw next year - risky.

arich35 · Post #293 » by **arich35** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 4:34 am

wco81 wrote:Wow that's a lot.

Dumb trade.

Seems like a move of desperation, only 3-3 with injuries, year 6 with high expectations, before there are some big extensions given out.

At least we have him through 2025 and we are only punting one draft. We will still have the talent and I like our late round and undrafted free agent scouting

thesack12 · Post #294 » by **thesack12** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:12 pm

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Not out of the woods yet, but its trending towards the 9ers getting a lot of key dudes back. Need all we can get going against the mighty Chiefs this week.

thesack12 · Post #295 » by **thesack12** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 1:13 pm

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Pretty ironic that Jimmy and the passing game needs the running game to pull more weight.

I can't think of a better way to help accomplish that than adding McCaffrey.

If the offense can be a top 10 caliber balanced attack in both facets, this team can go places.

Bingo_AlphaMan · Post #296 » by **Bingo_AlphaMan** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:12 pm

arich35 wrote:
wco81 wrote:Wow that's a lot.

Dumb trade.

Seems like a move of desperation, only 3-3 with injuries, year 6 with high expectations, before there are some big extensions given out.

At least we have him through 2025 and we are only punting one draft. We will still have the talent and I like our late round and undrafted free agent scouting

Very true!! To piggyback on that, we will get comp picks for DeMeco Ryans; Jimmie Ward; Sam Ebukan. That’s been their way of conducting business for many years now. Sign less free agents and allow yours to go… we will end up having at least two third round picks next offseason.

CrimsonCrew · Post #297 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:13 pm

Pretty torn on this one. I hate putting valuable resources into the RB position, and between draft capital and cap hits (not this yea, at least), this is a whole lot of resources. This FO has demonstrated why it's silly to put a lot toward the RB position, as they have repeatedly produced stellar results running the ball with a cast of late-round picks, UDFAs, and FA afterthoughts. Yet, to date, this FO has put a fourth-round pick (traded a fourth and a fifth), a third-round pick (traded two fourths), another third-round pick, and now a second, third, fourth, and fifth at the position, along with a four-year, $30 million contract and now $12 million/year for the next three (granted we can cut him without penalty) at the position. Oh, they also had the 2017 draft-day trade for Kapri Bibbs, who didn't even make the roster.

Having said that, if you're going to shell out that kind of draft capital and money for a RB, it had better be for a guy who is special in the passing game, and McCaffrey is. He's one of only two or three guys that I would even consider spending those types of resources on at the position. And the thought of him on the field with Deebo, Jusczcyk, Kittle, and Aiyuk is pretty tantalizing. We can put three guys on the field who are legit threats to play out of the backfield or split out wide and pretty much do it all - granted Juice is only a short yardage runner at best. That should stress defenses tremendously. The options only increase when Lance returns and you can put four legit ball-carriers and five legit receiving options on the field out of your 21 personnel set.

McCaffrey should make this offense hum, and there really are no more excuses for Kyle. He's got top-3 players IN THE LEAGUE at RB, FB, and TE, and probably a top-10 player at WR (lower as a pure receiver, but higher because of the flexibility he provides). If this group can't get it done, then it's time for Kyle to move on. McCaffrey will give us the speed to threaten the edge on outside zone runs that we have been missing to an extent without Mostert. That should open things up more in the middle of the field, and deep. Shanahan has rarely leaned on a RB in the passing game. His leading receivers have typically maxed out at about 60 targets a year (often much less, particularly of late). The lone exception is his first year in Atlanta, when Devonta Freeman had 97 targets. During his time with the Niners, McKinnon's 46 targets in 2020 are by far the most, though that's probably more indicative of the players than the scheme. To really get value from McCaffrey, we'll need to see him getting at least five or six targets a game.

The final piece of this is that the Rams were reportedly in the running for McCaffrey, and that would certainly fit their MO. It's not a good reason to make a move like this, but it does kind of sweeten the pot for the Niners. The Rams remain the biggest threat in the division to the Niners, but their offensive struggles are the biggest thing holding them back. McCaffrey would have filled a pretty stark need for them. That move, combined with likely bringing back OBJ in the next few weeks, might have been the spark they needed to win the division.

wco81 · Post #298 » by **wco81** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 6:31 pm

Yeah the Rams bit makes a little more sense for overpaying.

zman1 · Post #299 » by **zman1** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:37 pm

I think it is a great move. Our D is stellar and only a little more out of the O and we will be hard to beat. And McCaffrey can bring more than a little more. If the injury bug stops biting we can have a great year.

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CrimsonCrew · Post #300 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:13 pm

Mooney Ward practiced today. That's great news. Hopefully he's healthy enough to play this week.