2022 Season Thread

arich35 · Post #301 » by **arich35** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:23 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:Mooney Ward practiced today. That's great news. Hopefully he's healthy enough to play this week.

Chiefs WR's aren't as dangerous as years past but we for sure could use him. Would hate for him to further his injury though

CrimsonCrew · Post #302 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:52 pm

arich35 wrote:
CrimsonCrew wrote:Mooney Ward practiced today. That's great news. Hopefully he's healthy enough to play this week.

Chiefs WR's aren't as dangerous as years past but we for sure could use him. Would hate for him to further his injury though

Agreed. As big as this game feels in some ways, next week against the Rams is the must-win. I'd rather sit on guys like Ward and Bosa to make sure they're good to go for that game, even at the expense of this game.

CrimsonCrew · Post #303 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Fri Oct 21, 2022 10:12 pm

Bosa, Williams, and Jimmy Ward off the injury report. Solid. Mooney Ward and Hufanga questionable.

arich35 · Post #304 » by **arich35** » Sat Oct 22, 2022 2:35 am

Weird I haven't seen an update on Verrett besides he practiced a couple days ago

Jikkle · Post #305 » by **Jikkle** » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:33 am

thesack12 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Pretty ironic that Jimmy and the passing game needs the running game to pull more weight.

I can't think of a better way to help accomplish that than adding McCaffrey.

If the offense can be a top 10 caliber balanced attack in both facets, this team can go places.

I think it boils down to defenses committing everything to stopping the run which gives opportunities for the passing game.

If you were a defensive coordinator defending this offense you'd commit to stopping the run, focus your coverage in the middle of the field in that 5 to 20 yard range, and preach tackling and not allow YAC.

You're simply better off making sure you stop the run and taking the hit with some completions from Jimmy and making sure they don't turn into explosive plays.

Because odds are the drive will stall out at some point and you'll force a punt or limit the damage to a FG.

We've seen this come to fruition this season as well since we're pretty much a middle-of-the-road offense despite the talent we possess.

Now I'm not piling on Jimmy or anything because the offense simply isn't designed to win leaning just on the passing game and it's more about balance with each aspect playing off each other.

What I will say about Jimmy is the fact he doesn't scare defenses deep or outside the numbers does hurt the offense and the running game. It's why they wanted a big armed guy like Stafford and why they drafted a Trey Lance because Shanahan knows he needs to scare defenses at all levels of the field to have his offense run optimally.

If Jimmy can throw the deep balls like he did like he did last week things might change because even though they weren't completed they could've very easily had been and that will start to make defenses nervous.

wco81 · Post #306 » by **wco81** » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:19 pm

Actually they're saying a lot of defenses play 2 safeties back to force teams to work down the field rather than make big explosive plays downfield.

Not against the 49ers since they load up with heavy formations and their downfield passing game is underdeveloped but against more highflying offenses.

So scoring had been down early in the season.

Jikkle · Post #307 » by **Jikkle** » Sat Oct 22, 2022 6:51 pm

Watch on YouTube

It's kinda what we already know but it's still interesting to get a more detailed view of it.

thesack12 · Post #308 » by **thesack12** » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:52 pm

Jikkle wrote:
thesack12 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter

Pretty ironic that Jimmy and the passing game needs the running game to pull more weight.

I can't think of a better way to help accomplish that than adding McCaffrey.

If the offense can be a top 10 caliber balanced attack in both facets, this team can go places.

I think it boils down to defenses committing everything to stopping the run which gives opportunities for the passing game.

If you were a defensive coordinator defending this offense you'd commit to stopping the run, focus your coverage in the middle of the field in that 5 to 20 yard range, and preach tackling and not allow YAC.

You're simply better off making sure you stop the run and taking the hit with some completions from Jimmy and making sure they don't turn into explosive plays.

Because odds are the drive will stall out at some point and you'll force a punt or limit the damage to a FG.

We've seen this come to fruition this season as well since we're pretty much a middle-of-the-road offense despite the talent we possess.

Now I'm not piling on Jimmy or anything because the offense simply isn't designed to win leaning just on the passing game and it's more about balance with each aspect playing off each other.

What I will say about Jimmy is the fact he doesn't scare defenses deep or outside the numbers does hurt the offense and the running game. It's why they wanted a big armed guy like Stafford and why they drafted a Trey Lance because Shanahan knows he needs to scare defenses at all levels of the field to have his offense run optimally.

If Jimmy can throw the deep balls like he did like he did last week things might change because even though they weren't completed they could've very easily had been and that will start to make defenses nervous.

Yeah, I don't think defenses have been selling out to stop a Jeff Wilson spearheaded running game.

thesack12 · Post #309 » by **thesack12** » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:54 pm

arich35 wrote:Weird I haven't seen an update on Verrett besides he practiced a couple days ago

Read on Twitter

It might still be a week or 2 before he actually suits up, but Verrett is still on track to play this season.

thesack12 · Post #310 » by **thesack12** » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:57 pm

9ers should be shopping Davis-Price hard right now.

Maybe they can find some team that liked him in the draft, and Frisco can get like a 6th rounder for him.

They probably won't find much interest out there, but Price is completely obsolete now.

thesack12 · Post #311 » by **thesack12** » Sat Oct 22, 2022 9:58 pm

Who is making the game thread this week?

My win streak came to an end last week, so someone else needs to step in

thesack12 · Post #312 » by **thesack12** » Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:27 pm

Juice out this week via surgery to repair a broken finger. Expected back after next week's bye.
Deebo is day to day with a hamstring injury.
Greenlaw is day to day with a calf injury.

Well, considering the trend so far this season I guess we have to consider the health coming out this game a +

thesack12 · Post #313 » by **thesack12** » Mon Oct 24, 2022 11:29 pm

Read on Twitter

Yeah, that ain't good

Jikkle · Post #314 » by **Jikkle** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 6:31 pm

Read on Twitter

One of the most frustrating things about Jimmy G not knowing when to give up on a play.

Samurai · Post #315 » by **Samurai** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:25 pm

Jason Verrett was activated from the PUP list. No guarantees as to how good he still is at this point, but given that Moseley is out for the season we could use as much help at CB that we can get.

CrimsonCrew · Post #316 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:45 pm

Jikkle wrote:

Read on Twitter

One of the most frustrating things about Jimmy G not knowing when to give up on a play.

That's crazy. But not a shock. It's one of Jimmy's biggest issues. I've said repeatedly that we could get by with the physical limitations, but not with the negative, bone-headed plays.

CrimsonCrew · Post #317 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:46 pm

PFF ranks the Niners' receiving corps 5th in the league. Got to think Kittle ranks in the top-3 of TEs (in receiving; very arguably #1 all-around). The RB group has to be in the top-10 if not higher. Really no excuses for Shanahan throughout the end of the year. Particularly as McGlinchey is arguably the biggest liability on the OL, and we've had years to find out who McGlinchey is, and haven't taken any obvious steps to move on from him.

CrimsonCrew · Post #318 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:47 pm

Oh, and Juice pretty clearly the best FB in the league by a wide margin.

thesack12 · Post #319 » by **thesack12** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:11 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:
Jikkle wrote:

Read on Twitter

One of the most frustrating things about Jimmy G not knowing when to give up on a play.

That's crazy. But not a shock. It's one of Jimmy's biggest issues. I've said repeatedly that we could get by with the physical limitations, but not with the negative, bone-headed plays.

He's also tied for 2nd in the NFL with 2.2 seconds of pocket time. (Brady is #1.)

So Jimmy generally does a good job of getting the ball out before pressure arrives. This of course diminishes the need to throw the ball away.

Still, he definitely needs to have better recognition of when there isn't anybody open to get rid of the ball in the face of pressure. Because he sure as hell isn't going to be able to extend many plays via his athleticism or elusiveness.

thesack12 · Post #320 » by **thesack12** » Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:13 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:PFF ranks the Niners' receiving corps 5th in the league. Got to think Kittle ranks in the top-3 of TEs (in receiving; very arguably #1 all-around). The RB group has to be in the top-10 if not higher. Really no excuses for Shanahan throughout the end of the year. Particularly as McGlinchey is arguably the biggest liability on the OL, and we've had years to find out who McGlinchey is, and haven't taken any obvious steps to move on from him.

The receivers need to start with doing a better job of catching the ball.

9ers have 16 drops so far (4th most, despite being 19th in pass attempts). 49ers drop rate is 8.7% (2nd highest in the NFL, only the Jets are higher.)